Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:02 AM
Bosonic (1,414 posts)
Iran will pursue makers of anti-Islam film: vice-president
Source: Reuters
Iran's government will "track down" those responsible for making an amateurish film clip mocking the Prophet Mohammad, a senior official said, Iranian media reported on Monday. The video made in California and posted on YouTube portrayed the Prophet Mohammad as a womanizer and a fool. It has ignited a week of violent protests across the Muslim world. "The government of the Islamic Republic of Iran condemns ... this inappropriate and offensive action," First Vice-President Mohammad Reza Rahimi said, according to the Mehr news agency. "Certainly it will search for, track, and pursue this guilty person who ... has insulted 1.5 billion Muslims in the world." Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/17/us-protests-iran-idUSBRE88G0FQ20120917
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32 replies, 3224 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Bosonic | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| Turbineguy | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| WCGreen | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| lunatica | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| robinlynne | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| oldbanjo | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| CJCRANE | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| Firebrand Gary | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| Katashi_itto | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| Frank Cannon | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| robinlynne | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| JoeyT | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| EnviroBat | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| Ron Obvious | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| smirkymonkey | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| JoeyT | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| Marrah_G | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| Bragi | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| frylock | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| Bragi | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| qwlauren35 | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| christx30 | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| frylock | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| sofa king | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| Marrah_G | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| JoeyT | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| trouble.smith | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| LilSol | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| justiceischeap | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| octothorpe | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| octothorpe | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| fascisthunter | Sep 2012 | #32 |
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:04 AM
Turbineguy (16,545 posts)
1. Another chance to stick it
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to the American taxpayer who will pay to protect these people.
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Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:07 AM
WCGreen (44,932 posts)
2. So they got him cornered here in th USA, they grab him and want to take him
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back to Iran....
How's that going to work when we really don't have normal relations with Iran. Nothing could go wrong, Right!!! |
Response to WCGreen (Reply #2)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:10 AM
lunatica (28,842 posts)
4. I think a jihad doesn't go through legal channels
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They will just kill him, or them.
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Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:09 AM
Missycim (950 posts)
3. More and more reasons to think
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its ok for this country to get a nuke.
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Response to Missycim (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:24 AM
robinlynne (15,169 posts)
11. funny thing. I immediately saw the opposite side. I'm thinking, here come the drones to california.
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Remember how we take care of business?
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Response to robinlynne (Reply #11)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:43 PM
oldbanjo (676 posts)
22. I was thinking the same thing.
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:15 AM
CJCRANE (13,339 posts)
5. Who would've thought
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that this so-called anti-islam film would make a great talking point for radicals, hardliners and fundamentalists and make them even stronger?
What a coincidence. |
Response to CJCRANE (Reply #5)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:45 AM
Firebrand Gary (3,313 posts)
6. Especially considering the funding appears to have come from Egypt! Hmmmmm nt
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:48 AM
Katashi_itto (1,639 posts)
7. I have no sympathy for the Terry Jones and the Filmmaker. Guess they should have thought
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Last edited Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:49 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) about the real consequences.
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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:23 AM
Frank Cannon (6,191 posts)
9. Yup.
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Sucks to be them.
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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:24 AM
robinlynne (15,169 posts)
12. They probably did think about the consequences!
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:22 AM
JoeyT (4,549 posts)
8. Just so everyone knows what this threat is worth,
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Salman Rushdie's new book came out this month and they were going to kill him 20 years ago.
So it should be taken with a big grain of salt. Actually it should probably just be ignored completely and not taken at all. |
Response to JoeyT (Reply #8)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:53 AM
EnviroBat (5,259 posts)
10. Exactly...
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Thanks for injecting some sanity into this thread...
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Response to JoeyT (Reply #8)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:57 PM
Ron Obvious (1,651 posts)
21. Rushdie was in hiding for years...
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Salman Rushdie was in hiding for years and called that time the blackest period in his life.
We are meeting to discuss Rushdie's longest-running role, his 13-year performance as a character called Joseph Anton. This was the pseudonym he took after going into hiding following the fatwa declared upon him by Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini on Valentine's Day 1989. His protection officers suggested he choose another name to increase his security when he turned up at a new home (though being flanked by four armed men in bulletproof Jaguars usually did the trick). "Probably better not to make it an Indian name," counselled his minder Stan. And so, Rushdie writes, he became "an invisible man in a whiteface mask". Joseph was Conrad's first name, Anton was Chekhov's. He was Mr Anton until March 27 2002, when the police Jaguars finally drove out of his life for the last time.
That pseudonym now supplies the title for his new 636-page memoir. Why would he want to revisit those years? During that time his first wife Clarissa died of cancer, his second and third marriages broke up, his fourth was shaky, his Japanese editor was murdered, his Norwegian publisher shot, his Italian translator stabbed, hundreds died in riots protesting against his novel, his books were burned from Bradford to Islamabad, he did things that still make him burn with shame and he found that writers he admired such as John Berger and John Le Carré, both writing in the Guardian, attacked him for not withdrawing the novel. http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/sep/17/salman-rushdie-blackest-period-of-my-life |
Response to JoeyT (Reply #8)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:25 PM
smirkymonkey (11,671 posts)
30. Didn't they just renew the Fatwa on Rushdie?
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Last edited Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:26 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I thought I read that here somewhere, although I can't find it again. Maybe I saw it somewhere else.
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #30)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:07 PM
JoeyT (4,549 posts)
31. Yep.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/pageviews/2012/09/salman-rushdie-is-a-wanted-managain-satanic-verses-fatwa-renewed
I don't know if they ever actually lifted it or if they just recently upped the amount they're offering for his head. It kind of reads both ways. |
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:26 AM
Marrah_G (22,413 posts)
13. LOL
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He is a comedian!
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Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:29 AM
Bragi (6,986 posts)
14. So do I have this right?
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Posters in this thread are okay with foreign religious activists entering the country and killing someone who exercised their free speech right to be offensive against any religion they choose to target?
Moreover, they are opposed to protecting the film makers because it would cost taxpayer money? Seriously? Think this through people. - B |
Response to Bragi (Reply #14)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:53 AM
frylock (19,044 posts)
15. i'm having a real hard time mustering any concern
Response to frylock (Reply #15)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:59 AM
Bragi (6,986 posts)
16. Then you won't mind f free speech rights disappear? /nt
Response to Bragi (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:49 PM
qwlauren35 (2,455 posts)
19. Free Speech in AMERICA.
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Free Speech is not globally guaranteed. Only in certain countries. It is very awkward when a US citizen, exercising a US right, becomes involved in an international incident. This is the problem with Information Technology. It imposes a US value on other countries. In countries where Free Speech is actually illegal, the country should have the right to enforce their law in some way.
It's a complicated situation with no simple answers. I am not saying that the individual should not be protected. But to translate the film to Arabic and disseminate it... the protests are reasonable. (The violence is not.) We also need to acknowledge that violence is a way of life in many Muslim countries. It is how the coups/revolutions occurred, and we are not consistent in how we address it. When it's against an "enemy", we condone it. When it's against us, that's another story. We need to acknowledge that our embassies and consulates are in countries where some people routinely use violence to express themselves, and we must be prepared to address this at all times. And yes, it would be equally stupid for an American woman to dress provocatively in one of those countries where rape is common, and not necessarily prosecuted. There is a line that must be draw between exercising one's freedoms and common sense, especially when another country with different customs and laws is involved. |
Response to qwlauren35 (Reply #19)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:07 AM
christx30 (1,169 posts)
24. So to you,
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If an American were to say, "Tibet should be a free an independent country if that is what the people want." or commentate Tiennamin square, ect, you think China should be able to demand that person's arrest and inprisonment? Am I reading that correctly?
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Response to Bragi (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:32 PM
frylock (19,044 posts)
20. watch me pull this rabbit out of my hat
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Response to Bragi (Reply #14)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:39 PM
sofa king (8,695 posts)
17. No, you do not.
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I'll freely admit that I am enjoying a moment of schaudenfreude, but it is because the people behind this operation must now depend upon the guy they are trying to unseat to protect them.
They now exist at the pleasure of our President. That is amusing. (Yes, I am assuming that these "filmmakers" are a front for a Republican attempt at yet another October Surprise. Just wait. You'll see.) |
Response to Bragi (Reply #14)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:42 PM
Marrah_G (22,413 posts)
18. I am amused by the blustering of an Iranian official
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He is posturing for the radicals in his country. There is no threat.
It's like watching bagdad bob |
Response to Bragi (Reply #14)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
JoeyT (4,549 posts)
23. No, not really.
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Although if we wanted to play the "How dare someone attempt to kill someone on our soil?!" card, we probably should've thought of that about three or four decades ago. Hard to complain about assassination attempts given our record in South America and the Middle East.
I've got no real problem with protecting the guy, although I don't want him to have special protection we wouldn't give someone that say testified against the mob. I'm good with him going into the witness protection program and going into hiding. |
Response to Bragi (Reply #14)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:58 AM
trouble.smith (374 posts)
26. Looks like you have it right.
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:20 AM
LilSol (50 posts)
25. Nonsens
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The film is so pointless and nonsense, stupid! It is not worth to discuss this movie! But some idiots and Volksverhetzer uses this to mobilize some stupid people for them. This film doesn't insulted 1.5billion muslims, just the stupid and ignorant one!
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Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:54 AM
justiceischeap (9,797 posts)
27. One thing I will give Iran on this situation, at least they are laying blame at the feet
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of the people it belongs. They aren't condemning all of America, just the filmmaker. Who would have thought, on that point, Iran would be the sensible one's in the room.
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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #27)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:24 PM
octothorpe (962 posts)
29. Hey, you're right. I didn't think about that.
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:21 PM
octothorpe (962 posts)
28. All this over a ridiculously stupid film made by some idiots...
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It's hard for me to understand how this happens. I can't think of anything that could be mocked to get me upset to the level that I'd want my government to go on TV and claim they will track down the makers of the movie.
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Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:25 PM
fascisthunter (28,608 posts)


