U.S. filmmaker: I won't return to besieged home
Source: USA Today
A filmmaker linked to an anti-Islamic movie inflaming protests across the Middle East was interviewed Saturday at a Los Angeles sheriff's station and afterward decided not to return to his home -- possibly heading into hiding, authorities said.
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, was interviewed by federal probation officers for about half an hour at the station shortly after 12 a.m. in his hometown of Cerritos, California, said Steve Whitmore, spokesman for the Los Angeles County sheriff's department. After that, deputies dropped Nakoula off at an undisclosed location.
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"I'm really tired," Steven Klein said when he answered the door of his home in Hemet, California, Friday with a pistol in his hand and clad only in a pair of white shorts stained with what appeared to be ink spots.
The newspaper said Klein, a Vietnam veteran, appeared agitated. While waving the gun, he told the newspaper he was standing up for his First Amendment rights in helping with the film and said he is prepared to die for those rights.
Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/16/us-filmmaker-i-wont-return-to-besieged-home/57787268/1
It might be a lot harder now to find out whether it was Kock or Adelson who put him up to this
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)anniversary of 9/11 and some of the attacks on the embassies seemed pretty well coordinated.
napoleon_in_rags
(3,991 posts)What happened there was a direct AQ style attack, but with this social veil, linking it to a cause less unpopular than simply "kill all the Americans". I think the situation is unquestionably evolving.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)oldsarge54
(582 posts)Ever consider this is not a plot of any sort? With tweets and the internet you can get a pretty good short organizing. All these places have a history of protests since the Arab Spring. Never attribute to an evil mastermind when stupidity and sheer bloody mindedness. Stupidity on the alleged film maker, and the muslims do have a history of sheer bloody mindedness.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)but the repiglicans also have a history of sheer bloody mindedness as well.
It's a shame that we have seen enough shit that we no longer believe anything our govt says, but that is where they brought us.
I don't believe for a second that this particular incident was pure ignorance. Terry Jones got people killed for burning the Quran. He knew exactly what would happen with this film.
It's timing is questionable. It's players are questionable. The seeming united attacks appear to be more than just coincidence.
proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)Discussion moved to Carter's 'weakness.' Nauseating. I hit the OFF on the remote.
oldsarge54
(582 posts)Really, maybe I don't think. That Terry Jones knew that film would raise a ruckus, no doubt. What I'm doubting is that anyone on the muslim side was coordinating with anyone on this side. I mean if the AF could through Dorado Canyon together in half a day (and we did), why not, given the tweet and internet world in the middle east cannot throw assaults together in the same span of time? I don't doubt that they are organized. Maybe I am reading into what you are saying that this is a joint effort by the religious right and the muslims. I don't think you are saying that.
Mind you, it could be the Libya strike was pre-planned for 911 by Al quaida, but I think most of the reaction to the film was organic.
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)he did it on his own and its just a coincidence that the attacks seemed so well coordinated.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)They played right into AQ's hands, handing a propaganda victory to them on a silver screen... errr... platter.
What worries me, and should be considered, is whether instigation of violent reaction was the primary purpose of the film. I think that in such a case, emboldening the enemy, or even aiding and abetting the enemy should be considered by law enforcement.
We (as a country) arrest people all the time on a charge called "inciting a riot". Since the riot eventually took place on American soil (i.e. Sovereign American soil of a US Embassy), the Feds have jurisdiction. And since the rioting led to the death of 4 Americans who were within the property lines of the Benghazi Mission, those deaths can be tacted on as manslaughter charges w/ depraved indifference (again, on US soil).
Now were talking justifiable charges that preclude their ability to hide behind the 1st Amendment. If convicted, with consecutive sentences, his priors, and breach of parole agreement in the commission, we could be talking life in a federal pen.
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)If they were behind it I doubt they would admit it because after all they would then be guilty of the same "crime" they are rioting and killing over.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)directly supporting Al Qaeda. I'm beginning to feel a little sorry for this dumbass. Who would have thought an amateur Youtube vid could get you in so much trouble.
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longship
(40,416 posts)oldsarge54
(582 posts)Our friend Stein seems to have forgotten the biggest lesson in social studies, with freedom comes responsibility. Freedom without responsibility is a license for self-indulgence.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)preferrably over in the middle east.
Since he was grown enough to make the film, let him be grown enough to defend it where it caused the most upset. Why run like a little coward now?
jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)with what appeared to be ink stains.
--think of anything else might have caused the stains?
winstars
(4,219 posts)Hopefully, by now he is getting into Joe Pesce playing David Ferris' insanity from "JFK"...
To quote Jake LaMotta in "Raging Bull"--- "No more tough guy"
I am sure his insurance biz is doing better than ever now that EVERYONE knows who he is. Asshole.
"When I was in Viet Nam, killing VC blahblahblah..." WTF!!!
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)Goodway to get stung. Reckless and irresponsible, to say the least.
People died because of this nit wit.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)This "film" if you can even call it that, was nearly unwatchable, it was so poorly made.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)That fellow Klein has already talked too much and it's only a matter of time before his masters silence him. He appears to know that, too.
The "Sam Bacile" guy seems to be more important. I expect he'll be spirited out of the country, to await a pardon from Jeb Bush in five years.
And hell yes, I think this was all a Republican-planned operation. You don't, after all we've been through? Give me one reason why they wouldn't try it, when they have escaped culpability for every dirty trick they have pulled since 1968.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)BadGimp
(4,012 posts)I smell a rat or 3 or 6
Psephos
(8,032 posts)Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)Response to Psephos (Reply #24)
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Bragi
(7,650 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Aren't there other, more likely possibilities given what we know so far?
MercutioATC
(28,470 posts)...and don't believe he should be charged criminally.
HOWEVER, I also believe that we all bear responsibility for the decisions we make. He did nothing ILLEGAL, but he caused harm. I don't believe that it's inconsistent to support his 1st Amendment rights and also believe that he also has to face the consequences of his actions.
Psephos
(8,032 posts)can't be any clearer than that
MercutioATC
(28,470 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Response to Psephos (Reply #31)
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mykpart
(3,879 posts)If they charge him with a crime, will we extradite him?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)nt
YankeyMCC
(8,401 posts)How about "Jerk goes into hiding and no one goes looking."