Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:52 PM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
Romney: Obama Wants U.S. To Have Capacity For One Military Conflict At A Time
Source: TPM
Mitt Romney, campaigning in Fairfax, Virginia, said Thursday that President Obama wants to limit the U.S. military's capacity so it can only engage in one conflict at a time. Criticizing the automatic defense spending cuts looming at the end of the year, which passed as part of the bipartisan debt-limit deal, Romney said he will "restore our military commitment and keep America the strongest military in the world." "This president's done something I find hard to understand. Ever since FDR, we've had capacity to be engaged in two conflicts at once," Romney said. "He's saying, 'No, we're going to cut that back to one conflict.'" -snip- Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/romney-obama-wants-us-to-have-capacity-for Delusional again. It's painfully obvious that Romney finds almost everything "hard to understand."
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40 replies, 3990 views
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| highplainsdem | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| ProgressoDem | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| goclark | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| barbtries | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| McCamy Taylor | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| demwing | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| Blue_Tires | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| Renew Deal | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| McCamy Taylor | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| BlueMTexpat | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| landolfi | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| Renew Deal | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| Iliyah | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| Amonester | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| thelordofhell | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| alcibiades_mystery | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| littlemissmartypants | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| JoePhilly | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| Angry Dragon | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| Javaman | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| Vincardog | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| liberal N proud | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| treestar | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| heaven05 | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| cyclezealot | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| sakabatou | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| bamacrat | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| Agnosticsherbet | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| Smilo | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| polichick | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| JBoy | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| JRLeft | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| GreenTea | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| IggleDoer | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| Nikia | Sep 2012 | #35 | |
| ieoeja | Sep 2012 | #36 | |
| Brigid | Sep 2012 | #37 | |
| happyslug | Sep 2012 | #38 | |
| Liberalynn | Sep 2012 | #39 | |
| oldsarge54 | Sep 2012 | #40 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:54 PM
ProgressoDem (219 posts)
1. We have the capacity to be engaged in four conflicts at one time.
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What we don't have the capacity to do is be fully mobilized at all times, and creating an environment where we end up creating multiple conflicts at once.
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Response to ProgressoDem (Reply #1)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:52 PM
goclark (30,404 posts)
33. Did Mittwit say 4 conflicts at a time?
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If so, not to worry he will change that 10 times to 3 at a time and on and on and on
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:54 PM
barbtries (15,013 posts)
2. did the president ever say that?
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can't we just move away from WAR?! wtf.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:57 PM
McCamy Taylor (13,710 posts)
3. In other words "Romney promises middle class at least one more war."
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This is going to win him a lot of votes, I am sure.
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #3)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:51 PM
demwing (10,987 posts)
24. No shit, thats EXACTLY what he's saying
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More war for America, none of this weak socialist "1 War" bullshit.
And how will we pay for these many, many wars? Tax cuts for bazillionaires, of course. |
Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #3)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:53 PM
Blue_Tires (31,757 posts)
25. The military contractors are fully erect after hearing that...
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So he has their votes, at least...
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:57 PM
Renew Deal (56,954 posts)
4. Romney is just making stuff up again.
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Why did he pick Ryan if Ryan voted for it?
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #4)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:59 PM
McCamy Taylor (13,710 posts)
7. I think his Neo-Con "adviser" is a mole for Brother Jeb.
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Either someone in his campaign is giving him some really bum advice so that he will lose and 2016 will be a "Republican" year for Jeb Bush. Or, he is making this stuff up himself in which case he is a fool.
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #7)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:06 PM
BlueMTexpat (2,597 posts)
9. LOL, it's true that the initials for his principal advisor are "J.B."
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Last edited Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:07 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) but they stand for "John Bolton."
I don't believe that even Jeb Bush, awful as he is, is a John Bolton fan. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:58 PM
landolfi (93 posts)
5. Has anyone reminded Mitt
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that his running mate voted for it? Mitt has a gift for picking the wrong fights.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:58 PM
Renew Deal (56,954 posts)
6. Romney: "More conflicts"
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Most of them are in his mind.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:06 PM
Iliyah (2,360 posts)
8. So what the fuck are you saying, Mittens huh?
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We should be in more than several conflicts around the world, wherein, our children, not yours nor your grandchildren and your rich cronies' children and grandchildren are sitting around sipping vodka martinis?
EFF YOU AND YOUR FUCKED-UP GOP PARTY! |
Response to Iliyah (Reply #8)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:10 PM
Amonester (10,185 posts)
12. Robme wants to duplicate (or triplicate, or quadruplate, or...) IRAQ
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He wants to reap the profits for himself and Ann's horse.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:08 PM
thelordofhell (3,810 posts)
10. Shitt Onmey is pissed he can't send more kids to die
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Fuck you Shitt!!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:09 PM
alcibiades_mystery (28,429 posts)
11. Huh?
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WTF is he even talking about?
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:14 PM
JoePhilly (16,017 posts)
14. If we don't have two wars going at all times, we look weak!
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Dumbass.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:27 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
15. Someone should ask Willard if he is willing to have some of his sons
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fight and die for this country .......... or if working for god and campaigning for Dad is the same??
More wars make you a better country ......... |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:27 PM
Javaman (40,665 posts)
16. it's also painfully obvious that mittens is clearly out of his league.
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he's trying so hard to play grown up and only comes off as looking even more like an asshole.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:28 PM
Vincardog (17,416 posts)
17. Hey Mittens, when your kids sign up, we might listen to on defense. nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:29 PM
liberal N proud (43,767 posts)
18. With Romney there would be no diplomacy
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Last edited Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:30 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) He would drop bombs at the first sign of trouble.
IF you think the world hates the US now, imagine what it would be like with Romney. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:30 PM
treestar (40,525 posts)
19. Is that some sort of goal for Rmoney?
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You just know the damn fool would get us into another war. Aren't people sick of that?
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Response to treestar (Reply #19)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:43 PM
heaven05 (2,374 posts)
21. yes
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yes I am. But unless there is a huge paradigm shift, I fear we will war against each other til the end of time. Especially if rethugs and profit driven corporations are in charge. Military-Industrial Complex. Very powerful and getting more powerful everyday.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:41 PM
cyclezealot (4,679 posts)
20. And without justified cause. 1 More war than the American people favor.
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Last edited Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) At this time.. And Romney is lousy at x'pla'nin. stuff...
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:44 PM
sakabatou (29,108 posts)
22. Lemme get my clue-by-four...
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:46 PM
bamacrat (3,826 posts)
23. Really. Can't we be ok with no conflict?
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Besides our military is bigger than the next 10 combined, I think we are good.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:59 PM
Agnosticsherbet (1,226 posts)
26. Another Romney lie.
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The U.S. has not changed its military structure and size. The cuts were forced by congress so they would feel compelled to kill sacred cows and come to a deal.
If they really go through, then the U.S. will be required to change the structure of the military. Stupid, stupid, stupid lies, and even more stupid people who believe them. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:02 PM
Smilo (1,886 posts)
27. Let's see Mitt
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In 2011 the global distribution of military expenditure by %age was -
USA - 41% Net 10 countries combined - 21.3% China 9.2% Russia 4.1% And you want more money for the MIC? You are a warmonger and liar - a dangerous combination. Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes … known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.… No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. — James Madison, Political Observations, 1795 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:04 PM
polichick (30,375 posts)
28. Apparently Rmoney hasn't figured out that he's looking like an ass.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:06 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (6,600 posts)
29. More desperation Mittens?
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You Republicans are becoming caricatures of yourself.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:21 PM
JBoy (7,464 posts)
30. Romney campaign wants Romney to have capacity for only one foot in mouth at a time.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:30 PM
JRLeft (1,953 posts)
31. Romney wants a war with Iran. Robbedme wants to continue the PNAC doctrine of colonizing the middle
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east.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:35 PM
GreenTea (5,149 posts)
32. No Mitt He wants NO unnecessary military conflicts!
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Unlike imperialistic republicans who want "never ending war" because it's good for weapons makers and hundreds of republican led CEO contractors who make billions off our tax dollars ....
Romney like bush before him love wars for corporate profits - Fuck the peasant soldiers dying for the rich and their corporations...republicans nor CE O's care workers are replaceable....and killing a bunch of people of color men women & children again who cares....there's profits to be made and a US economy & treasury to loot - so there's no money left for social needs that all the tax paying working people paid for....the rich don't pay taxes nor their corporations they just hide it in off-shore accounts. Show us your tax returns Mitt What are you hiding? |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:55 PM
IggleDoer (991 posts)
34. Fight one war, hold on another ...
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... was the DoD philosophy since Bush the Smarter scaled back the militaryas the "Peace Dividend."
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:06 PM
Nikia (11,348 posts)
35. At best Romney's increased military spending will increase the defecit
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which he claims that he doesn't want. It will be his version of stimulating the economy with government spending while saving face with conservatives who don't like government spending except for national defense.
At worst, Romney's thirst for conflict will lead to WWIII with the U.S. seen as the evil aggressor and end up with the US losing after many casualties. If the world isn't completely destroyed anyway, the US military will be forcibly reduced and the US will never be allowed to be a "super power" again. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:12 PM
ieoeja (7,887 posts)
36. We only had such a military when FDR died because we were still fighting WW-II!
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Last edited Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:16 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) We had a large military between WW-II and Korea for the occupations and to help the world restore order in the aftermath.
Even then we did not have a large enough military to engage in a conflict outside Europe when Korea broke out. The USMC barely had one full division. They had to take Marines from embassy duty to flesh out the Marines that led the break out of Pusan then tried the end run at Inchon. And the sole reason justifyng a peace time military after that was the Cold War. Cold War is over. We need to very slowly disband. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:25 PM
Brigid (10,592 posts)
37. Does Mitty even hear himself?
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Constant warfare is to be taken for granted? Jesus Mary and Joseph!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:40 PM
happyslug (10,772 posts)
38. WHAT has't Romeny read of Augustus most famous rule???
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Augustus, the man the set up the "Roman Peace" had a policy of only fighting one war at a time, it was to costly to more. His successors followed that policy until the 4rd century, when Rome ended up fighting the Goths raiding from what is now Germany, the Persians from what is now Iraq. This lead to a huge increase in the size of the Army, which lead to huge increase in taxes, which in turn lead to two massive revolts (which almost lead to the fall of the Roman Empire). What came out of the 3rd century was a shadow of the Roman Empire of Augustus, and till the Arab invasion of the 7th century the Empire never did come up with a solution (And in the 7th Century, the Empire turned Greek, the mercenary army was replaced by an army that served in exchange for ownership of land, i.e. medieval Feudalism, and the old ruling elites were replaced by people who understood that a Nation's army must be one and the same with the Nation's people, i.e. you serve in the army because you were a citizen, not because you were paid to fight).
Just a comment, if you want to duplicate Rome at its height, you only plan to fight one war at a time. It is to EXPENSIVE to do otherwise UNLESS you rely on the draft. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:43 PM
Liberalynn (5,550 posts)
39. Mittens and the Pukes
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Last edited Thu Sep 13, 2012, 04:49 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) just want never ending multiple wars. They thrive on constant death and destruction. They must really worship Ares God of War!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 06:06 PM
oldsarge54 (582 posts)
40. Boy, Mitt got that Wrong
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Not until Roosevelt's THIRD term did we have military worth mentioning. The draft then survived by 1 vote. Two regional conflicts, Mitt? That is why we had a Germany First strategy. We couldn't fight two major conflicts at one time. Under Reagan, we had a force level suitable for one major war and a holding action in another theater. After the USSR folded, we dropped to two regional conflicts, one holding one active. Which is one reason we are still in Afghanistan is that is was reduced to being the holding action when Bush got us into that second useless war.
Mitt, first of all, it is time to rethink what we need in a war. I'd personally would prefer a small, professional and well equipped military than an elephant designed for the northern plains of Europe. Mitt, I'm not calling you a liar, however, if you love firing people so much, start with the researchers and writers of your statements. If you are not stupid, they are making you look stupid. |

