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bupkus Sep 2012 OP
Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #1
harmonicon Sep 2012 #2
arewenotdemo Sep 2012 #3
SkyDaddy7 Sep 2012 #9
joshcryer Sep 2012 #15
harmonicon Sep 2012 #25
pampango Sep 2012 #28
harmonicon Sep 2012 #29
joshcryer Sep 2012 #5
arewenotdemo Sep 2012 #6
joshcryer Sep 2012 #10
Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #12
joshcryer Sep 2012 #13
arewenotdemo Sep 2012 #4
riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #7
sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #8
arewenotdemo Sep 2012 #11
sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #24
joshcryer Sep 2012 #14
sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #16
joshcryer Sep 2012 #17
sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #18
joshcryer Sep 2012 #20
sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #21
joshcryer Sep 2012 #22
sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #23
joshcryer Sep 2012 #26
KingSurvival Sep 2012 #19
daleo Sep 2012 #27

Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:57 PM

1. Nice one. Of course, Benghazi is where the jihadists hang out, but nevermind that.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:06 PM

2. Yeah. These are the same people who hated the old regime.

We made this possible.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:26 PM

3. We absolutely made this possible

 

Biggest mistake Obama has made in four years, IMO.

Hopefully it will give him pause before making any more neocon dreams a reality (Syria).

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Response to arewenotdemo (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:38 PM

9. Libyans would disgaree!!

The Libyans just had an election & elected moderates not Islamic extremist. So, NO NO NO Obama did not cause this nor was it a mistake to do what he did for the Libyan people.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:56 PM

15. Yep, unlike Tunisia and Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood was marginalized in Libya.

This happened because of bad security and it was clearly a planned attack. Probably some small faction unrepresentitive of the Libyan protesters.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:17 PM

25. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

What about the thousands of dead Libyans? What about those murdered with their hands tied behind their backs? What about all of those who were murdered by the revolutionaries for the sin of being black?

Who did they vote for?

Violence begets violence.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #25)

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:12 AM

28. "Violence begets violence." True, including the violence that dictators use on their people to stay

in power.

All dictators, certainly not just Gaddafi, use their security services and military to stay in power. Dictators don't have to worry about losing power through the ballot. All they have to worry about are coups and revolutions hence the reliance on force and violence.

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Response to pampango (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:20 AM

29. I don't disagree with you.

However, too often, the US has taken the position of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," which is rarely true. More often, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:10 PM

5. Except Benghazians had a counter protest:



Not that facts matter.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:21 PM

6. OP never said they don't

 

Question was who was responsible for the attack.

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Response to arewenotdemo (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:38 PM

10. I was countering the black and white "nevermind the jihadists" quip.

Not the OP.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:28 PM

12. Are you saying there aren't jihadis there and that they aren't responsible?

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:56 PM

13. I'm saying that it's not representitive of the situation.

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Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:05 PM

4. When Zawahiri and Wolfowitz are on the same side...

 

you may just possibly want to reconsider your support for same.

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Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:26 PM

7. Of course they're going to say this! What else would they say?

"A faction of revolutionaries (cough) that were/are allied with us, and that the US backed, has now attacked and killed the US Ambassador and support personnel?"

Yeah, can't say THAT now....

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Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:32 PM

8. Lol, well it took them longer than I expected to make that claim. Funny how nothing like this

happened to any of the thousands of Americans living and working in Libya while Qadaffi was in power there.

Those Al Queda 'protesters' we used to topple Qadaffi weren't really on our side, but they knew a good opportunity when they saw it.

They've been slaughtering and torturing people since NATO disappeared, AND killing their fellow 'revolutionaries'.

I thought that NATO's role there was to protect civilians, but as soon as they murdered Qadaffi, the left the civilians to the barbarism of the 'protesters' they were helping to topple his regime.

We are told so many lies.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:47 PM

11. Wait, wait....they're just activists...

 

Al Qaeda activists.

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Response to arewenotdemo (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:56 PM

24. This was a Romney moment, an attempt to use a terrible tragedy as he did, for

political purposes. No one knows who is responsible for these murders yet. But there will always be those who will use even tragedies like this, to further their political agendas.

We did use Al Queda in Libya during the so-called uprising. However there is still no way of knowing who did this or who was behind it, or if it was planned.

But four people are dead and it's a shame to see the attempts to use their deaths for political advantage.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:53 PM

14. Real funny sabrina.

Laughs all around.

Make me sick.

The only lies here are associating Benghazians and the Libyan protesters with "al-Queda."

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:02 PM

16. You know what makes ME sick, the killings, the slaughter

of so many innocents in Libya, the torture, the rapes, the hangings, all of which was cheered on while it was happening. Yes, that made me sick. And now, the murders of these Americans.

And another thing that makes me sick is your continued personal attacks on me which I have been far too tolerant of, as many have told me.

Don't you dare try to accuse me of ever laughing at the murders of human beings. My record on the slaughter of human beings no matter which side they are on, is and always has been crystal clear.

We had no business backing the fake uprising in Libya and I will never forgive MYSELF for initially supporting it.

At least I can admit when I am wrong.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:06 PM

17. You put "LOL" in post #8. I didn't accuse you of anything. It is a FACT.

What a disgusting display.

It's not an attack if it's a fact. You think it's funny that this happened. And you repeat the falsehood that the protesters were Al-Qaeda.

Yet the real protesters came out and counter protested the terrorist acts.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:24 PM

18. What a disgusting distortion of what that comment was about..

How dare you.

My meaning was clear and I will repeat it. It was a given that someone would attempt to blame Qadaffi supporters, DESPITE the reports that some of the guards were involved. With no proof of anything, this was the response that was more than predictable.

Thankfully I am informed, your ugly distortion of my comment has been noted and rather than alert on your extremely ugly personal attack, I will leave it for all to see.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:59 PM

20. I see no disagreement. You think "this" is funny.

And you "LOL'd" about it.

I didn't distort anything. I just know what the word "this" means.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:02 PM

21. Please do not address me again.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #21)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:07 PM

22. Try not to laugh it up about tragedy.

FYI Libyan Security officials believe it was an islamist sect aligned with Ansar al-Sharia disproving the entire basis of the "funny."

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:47 PM

23. I asked you not to address me any further. Your ugly distortions are visible here and this

this matter is settled.

I will consider any further attempts to communicate with me to be harassment.


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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #23)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:29 PM

26. If you feel that way please use ignore.

I do not take kindly to people slandering the Libyan people and making a mockery of them. It is a tragedy that is not "LOL" worthy or "funny" as you write in post #8.

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Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:30 PM

19. Mossad's Fingerprints all over these two events...

The spark for the protests in Libya and Egypt was an obscure movie made in the United States by a California filmmaker who calls Islam a "cancer." Video excerpts posted on YouTube depict Muhammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.

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Response to bupkus (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:08 AM

27. No surprise that they would make this claim

It might even be true.

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