Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:41 PM
hue (2,539 posts)
GOP's Ryan to go up with TV ads _ for House seat
Source: Associated Press
HUDSON, Wis. (AP) -- Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan plans to begin airing ads in Wisconsin as he asks voters to elect him to an eighth House term that he hopes to never serve. Contracts formalized Tuesday with at least one Milwaukee television station show that Ryan's congressional ads will start airing Wednesday morning and go initially for two weeks. The Ryan congressional ads start in the same week as presidential ticket mate Mitt Romney's commercials went on air in Wisconsin, although the cost for the two sets of ads are drawn from different campaign accounts. Wisconsin law allows Ryan to seek both offices simultaneously but only serve in one if he wins the pair. His Democratic opponent in the state's 1st District is Rob Zerban, a former county official. Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RYAN_ADS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Looks like Ryan doesn't want to be unemployed!!
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| hue | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| cosmicone | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| riverwalker | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| cosmicone | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| cstanleytech | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| elleng | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| cstanleytech | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| elleng | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| lunasun | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| onenote | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| cstanleytech | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| onenote | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| cstanleytech | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| onenote | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| aletier_v | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| hue | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| MrSlayer | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| tartan2 | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| olddad56 | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| harrose | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| DonViejo | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| elleng | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| SunSeeker | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| Strat0 | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| Panasonic | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| Gruenemann | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| totodeinhere | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| julian09 | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| tomm2thumbs | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| notadmblnd | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| onenote | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| sofa king | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| David__77 | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| onenote | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| JNelson6563 | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| Liberalynn | Sep 2012 | #35 |
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:43 PM
cosmicone (3,376 posts)
1. What are his opponent's chances?
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I may want to send him/her money!
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Response to cosmicone (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:52 PM
riverwalker (6,450 posts)
3. we all should donate
Response to riverwalker (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:58 PM
cosmicone (3,376 posts)
6. Thanks! n/t
Response to riverwalker (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:05 PM
cstanleytech (5,295 posts)
8. I heard that there are 4 PACs getting ready to spend +600 million against Ryan for that seat
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just so he will lose his home state but ya why not donate since the more a beating he takes the better imo.
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #8)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:12 PM
elleng (40,519 posts)
10. Sounds good!
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Where'd you hear this?
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Response to elleng (Reply #10)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:17 PM
cstanleytech (5,295 posts)
12. All I can say is that its a very reliable source, sorry. nt
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:01 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
20. I don't think the voices in your head are really a reliable source
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The idea that there are PACs prepared to spend $600 million on Ryan's house seat is obviously your attempt at humor, although for the life of me I can't figure out what the punch line is.
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Response to onenote (Reply #20)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:27 PM
cstanleytech (5,295 posts)
24. Nope not in my head and it makes sense because it could also have the added effect of costing
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the state for Romney as well if Ryan loses, sure my source could be wrong but I doubt it.
That aside by all means everyone should donate as much as they can to Zerban so as to make sure that Ryan wont be serving another term as the country cant afford that asshole to be in any position of power in the government anymore. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #24)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:22 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
25. Its absurd in the extreme.
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Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) The amount spent by one side in the most expensive House race in 2010 was less than $12 million. As of the end of July, President Obama had raised around $350 million. In the 2008 election, the combined spending was $1.3 billion. You think that one Congressional district in Wisconsin is going to receive twice as much money as President Obama has raised for his national campaign and nearly half of what President Obama and McCain spent in 2008? THe entire population of the First Congressional District in Wisconsin is around 670,000, including children. The largest number of voters in any First District election has been around 350,000. So you think that over $1500 per voter is going to be spent in the district? There isn't enough TV time in Kenosha to spend that much.
Your source is pulling your leg or deluded. |
Response to onenote (Reply #25)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:38 PM
cstanleytech (5,295 posts)
27. Doh, I just scrolled up my bad lol
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I walking talking to my friend a bit ago and I misunderstood him it was 60 million not 600 million, my apologies.
60+ million though isnt bad though. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #27)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:09 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
29. still a ridiculous waste of money
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And I still doubt it will happen.
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:59 PM
aletier_v (1,773 posts)
28. Are they republican pacs? :)
Response to cosmicone (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:54 PM
hue (2,539 posts)
4. His Dem opponent is Rob Zerban (1st District) n/t
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:52 PM
MrSlayer (21,325 posts)
2. How great would it be to get rid of this asshole altogether?
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I would so enjoy seeing him smacked out of the political arena.
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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:57 PM
tartan2 (124 posts)
5. I keep hoping
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that this run as VP will ruin Paul Ryan's career!
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Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:02 PM
olddad56 (2,827 posts)
7. he must not be feeling too confident about his chances of becoming the VP.
Response to olddad56 (Reply #7)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:00 PM
harrose (47 posts)
18. Would you have said the same thing...
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... about Biden (who ran for VP and the Senate) in 2008 or Lieberman (who also ran for VP and Senate) in 2000?
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Response to olddad56 (Reply #7)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:56 PM
DonViejo (4,492 posts)
19. I agree with you...
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Ryan's announcement sounds like a pre-concession concession
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Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:10 PM
elleng (40,519 posts)
9. CONTRIBUTE TO RYAN'S OPPONENT ROB ZERBAN!
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:15 PM
SunSeeker (5,004 posts)
11. Congress AND Pres./VP ads for the same guy. Isn't Kenosha sick of this tool yet?
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Rob Zerban looks great--even when not standing next to that tool Ryan. He cares about the people in his district and he's a real small business owner. The anti-Ryan.
www.robzerban.com |
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:25 PM
Strat0 (24 posts)
14. Media seize on this!
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I've been waiting for some intrepid reporter to do this, whenever Ryan ducks a question about his record, deferring to Romney's policies as head of the ticket, Ryan can and should be pressed to answer any and all questions based on his status as a congressional candidate, not as a VP candidate.
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Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:33 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
15. Too bad, Ryan is out on both sides.
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House and VP slots denied.
He will have to go back to Oscar Mayer and beg for a job driving the Weinermobile - the only outside experience besides lying. |
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:55 PM
Gruenemann (771 posts)
17. LBJ ran for VP and Senate at the same time.
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When Kennedy was elected, LBJ had to resign his senate seat, and in a special election he was replaced by <gag> John Tower.
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Response to Gruenemann (Reply #17)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:36 PM
totodeinhere (6,590 posts)
22. So did Biden. It's not that uncomon. n/t
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:02 PM
julian09 (1,435 posts)
21. maybe he should run for state senate too, just in case. nt
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:03 PM
tomm2thumbs (9,180 posts)
23. even HE doesn't believe in his own ticket --
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I guess he really has no faith to speak of |
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:29 PM
notadmblnd (17,099 posts)
26. Can he run for two offices at once?
Response to notadmblnd (Reply #26)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:53 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
32. Of course. Biden, Lieberman, LBJ, and Bentsen are all examples.
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Nothing wrong with it. Often a strategically sound move.
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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #26)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:29 PM
sofa king (8,689 posts)
34. Absolutely.
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Last edited Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:30 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Bob Dole famously resigned his Senate seat in June, 1996, to focus on losing to President Bill Clinton. The Republican hold on Kansas was never seriously in question and in fact Kansans returned two Republican Senators to Congress that year, which doesn't happen very often.
We still came out ahead because Dole was eventually replaced with Sam Brownback, who is a typical four-martini Republican politician who knows all about evil but little about his actual job, while Dole was a formidable opponent. Dole's departure did not harm the Republican majority in the Senate, but it did increase the "cleverness deficit" in the Senate, which has been freely exploited by Democrats ever since. Anything we have left at this point is largely thanks to Republicans not being smart enough to exploit their advantages when they had them. But since then, most Members of Congress who have run for national office have hedged their bets, including Kucinich, Kerry, McCain, and President Obama (who, along with Hillary Clinton, ran as a sitting Senator). Kucinich, being from the House, was always up for reelection whenever he ran nationally, so he always ran his campaigns concurrently. It works well for us this time around because it's a free shot at the Republicans, and we would be fools not to take it. But conventional wisdom suggests that a candidate running for national office can help his campaign by also running for his usual position in Congress, or holding onto the position in Congress if he or she is not up for reelection. |
Response to hue (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:43 PM
David__77 (14,112 posts)
30. If I were superstitious, I'd say he's jinxing his vice presidential chances.
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Really, I'm not superstitious, but I felt like Al Gore was doomed once he chose Joe Lieberman in 2000 - and that the deal was sealed when Lieberman proceeded to run for both US senate and vice presidency.
If you are so confident of victory, don't run for the lesser office. If you are not so confident of victory, you must behave as if you are, or people will pick up on this and view if unfavorably. |
Response to David__77 (Reply #30)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:59 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
33. Didn't hurt LBJ or Biden.
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And while they weren't having to campaign for reelection, it didn't hurt Obama or Kennedy to not resign their Senate seats while they ran for President (while Bob Dole chose to resign his seat while he mounted a national campaign and he ended up without either a national office or a Senate seat).
I don't think one can find much of a pattern. Its often a smart move strategically -- it will be interesting to see whether the ads that are run in ryan's district are really aimed at reelecting him to Congress or are thinly veiled ads for the presidential campaign (using funds donated to his congressional campaign, which means donors who have reached their limit in the presidential campaign can funnel more money to them through ryan's congressional campaign). |
Response to hue (Original post)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:39 PM
JNelson6563 (24,766 posts)
31. lolz Not too confident about the WH, eh?
Response to hue (Original post)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:32 PM
Liberalynn (5,547 posts)
35. Please, Please, Please
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let him loose both races.
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