Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:33 PM
onehandle (35,983 posts)
Minority Voters To Be Intimidated By Polling Place Vigilantes, Report Warns
Source: Huffington Post
WASHINGTON -- Concerned that a veritable army of Tea Partyers will descend on polling places in minority neighborhoods to challenge and intimidate voters on Election Day, two public interest groups on Monday called for government officials to take extra steps to protect voters' rights. A new report from Common Cause and Demos, titled "Bullies at the Ballot Box," describes efforts by right-wing groups -- foremost among them, a Tea Party spin-off group called True the Vote -- to train as many as a million volunteers in "poll-watching." "I think we have seen a much more coordinated and well-funded effort than we've seen in years past, and that's why it's so concerning," said Jenny Flanagan, director of voting and elections at Common Cause and one of the report's authors. "The message behind their tactic I think is what's most concerning to us," she said, because the groups appear to be "targeting racial minorities and others who have a past of being targeted." Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/minority-voters_n_1871138.html
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| onehandle | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| brooklynite | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| RoccoR5955 | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| Mr.Bill | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| oldsarge54 | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| Bernardo de La Paz | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| mysuzuki2 | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| cheezmaka | Sep 2012 | #78 | |
| LynneSin | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| central scrutinizer | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| Blue_Tires | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| JoeyT | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| Scootaloo | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| heaven05 | Sep 2012 | #42 | |
| Judi Lynn | Sep 2012 | #48 | |
| Blue_Tires | Sep 2012 | #63 | |
| Jazzgirl | Sep 2012 | #64 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| DeSwiss | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| zincsulfate | Sep 2012 | #61 | |
| daybranch | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| jaysunb | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| heaven05 | Sep 2012 | #43 | |
| noiretextatique | Sep 2012 | #71 | |
| cheezmaka | Sep 2012 | #79 | |
| noiretextatique | Sep 2012 | #85 | |
| jaysunb | Sep 2012 | #80 | |
| noiretextatique | Sep 2012 | #86 | |
| indepat | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| Katashi_itto | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| cheezmaka | Sep 2012 | #81 | |
| Mr.Bill | Sep 2012 | #83 | |
| JRLeft | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| aggiesal | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| alfredo | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| SaveAmerica | Sep 2012 | #40 | |
| aggiesal | Sep 2012 | #50 | |
| SaveAmerica | Sep 2012 | #54 | |
| alfredo | Sep 2012 | #57 | |
| aggiesal | Sep 2012 | #74 | |
| SaveAmerica | Sep 2012 | #77 | |
| aggiesal | Sep 2012 | #84 | |
| bigdarryl | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| Brigid | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| mopinko | Sep 2012 | #67 | |
| DemKittyNC | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| alfredo | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| cheezmaka | Sep 2012 | #82 | |
| defacto7 | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| alfredo | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| defacto7 | Sep 2012 | #59 | |
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| Brigid | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| DemKittyNC | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| Bluegene | Sep 2012 | #55 | |
| heaven05 | Sep 2012 | #46 | |
| Diclotican | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| Cha | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| Bernardo de La Paz | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| notadmblnd | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| CitizenPatriot | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| Patiod | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| caseymoz | Sep 2012 | #35 | |
| frylock | Sep 2012 | #36 | |
| nanabugg | Sep 2012 | #91 | |
| ejbr | Sep 2012 | #37 | |
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:36 PM
brooklynite (13,081 posts)
1. We need the equivalent of "clinic escorts"...
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...trained to walk in with any voter who needs protection, and prepared to stop anyone not legally allowed to interfere with the voting process.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:40 PM
RoccoR5955 (6,541 posts)
2. If they get unruly at polling stations.
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I know that in NY the poll workers can THROW THEM OUT!
And if they don't go when they are asked to leave, the police can get involved, and they can get arrested for manipulating an election, disturbing the peace, and other little things. |
Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #2)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:43 PM
Mr.Bill (978 posts)
6. I work at my polling place
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And you are absolutely right. People are allowed to observe only. They are not allowed to interfere with the voters, poll workers or the voting process in any way.
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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #2)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:23 PM
oldsarge54 (582 posts)
25. I worked my polling place in the 2008
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We had self identified Tea Party types with cameras threatening to give the latino voters pictures to the INS. Minor mistake, our rural area has many descendants of the Texians who helped create Texas, including descendants of Juan Sequin. They were set straight in a hurry. Fun to watch.
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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #2)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:45 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
32. But outside too. Video, photo, upload photos & then call police so it can't be swept under carpet
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Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:46 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) (on edit: )
... even if the police illegally confiscate the videos and photos. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:40 PM
mysuzuki2 (2,904 posts)
3. If they try this at my neighborhood polling place they will not like the result.
Response to mysuzuki2 (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:15 PM
cheezmaka (436 posts)
78. I know SEVERAL polling places
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where they will not like the result as well...
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:41 PM
LynneSin (89,796 posts)
4. Even though Romney isn't focusing on PA I do plan to be in Philly on election day
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They say anywhere from 500k-1mil PA voters could lose access to voting on election day because of this new Voter ID law. The margin of win for Obama in 2008 was almost 10% but that was 700k voters which means if a judge doesn't overturn the PA Voter ID law - GOP could steal the election here.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:41 PM
central scrutinizer (5,905 posts)
5. those skin heads are going to have their asses handed to them
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that shit might have worked in the 1950s. Maybe they still think the "coloreds" know their place.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:44 PM
Blue_Tires (31,870 posts)
7. I guess this is one of the few times I'm happy to live in a repub-heavy precinct...
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they're not going to send the goon squad to harass ten black folks...
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:37 PM
JoeyT (4,732 posts)
17. I wouldn't bet on it.
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They like nothing more than outnumbering their targets. If they're outnumbered they may not stick around long.
If anything they'll be more aggressive at the ones where they have vastly superior numbers. |
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:36 PM
Scootaloo (6,076 posts)
28. You want to bet?
The people in that picture are just now into their seventies. I'm sure many are still voting. I'm sure most of them brought their own children up to have their same values. "Prey on the weak" is the motto of these social darwinist fuckheads. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #28)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:23 PM
heaven05 (2,483 posts)
42. perfect
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fit for the rethug party of today. THIS is what they would like to do on election day. Intimidate. I hope they try this here.
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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #28)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:01 PM
Judi Lynn (78,149 posts)
48. How purely ugly these people are. We need to be reminded of what has happened already.
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Glad to see this photo for the first time. Perfect illustration of what these people can easily do when the mood strikes them.
They could have accepted the knowledge it was time to let go of the evil of the past, but they chose to try to keep making life a living hell for others. There are three real heroes at the counter. They tower over the others while sitting there. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #28)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:36 AM
Blue_Tires (31,870 posts)
63. I'll be OK
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1. There has never been an issue at my precinct in all the years I've voted
2. I've always sent off a pretty strong 'do-not-fuck-with-me' vibe, even when I'm not trying to... |
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #63)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jazzgirl (3,369 posts)
64. Ditto Blue_Tires.
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Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:17 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I send off double-dare you signals. I will not take crap from any racist asshole. Besides I do not intimidate.....at all!!!
edited for spelling. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:47 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,480 posts)
8. I would suggest there be some very strong men out with our people like the Florida Pizza guy
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Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:48 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Just to look like no trouble would be allowed to happen.
I had a beautiful German Shepherd, born in Germany to breed puppies. I got her when she retired and she was an excellent watch dog by just being there. She was a gentle as anything but anyone who saw her walked clear of us when we walked her. Looking tough helps. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:47 PM
DeSwiss (17,467 posts)
9. Bullies at the Ballot Box?
Response to DeSwiss (Reply #9)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:22 AM
zincsulfate (3 posts)
61. Spam deleted by Paulie (MIR Team)
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:50 PM
daybranch (394 posts)
10. The place
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Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:50 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Asian Americans is arm in arm with Euro American supporters. Voting is the American way. Let's start a campaign to get people to the polls to look at the soon to be extinct tea party., the dodo bird of this century
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:50 PM
jaysunb (8,002 posts)
11. And the beat goes on.....
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IMG]
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Response to jaysunb (Reply #11)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:09 PM
noiretextatique (21,386 posts)
71. they won't be in oakland or south central or harlem
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you best believe that
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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #71)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:23 PM
cheezmaka (436 posts)
79. they won't be in detroit either
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they won't even think about it
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Response to cheezmaka (Reply #79)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:50 PM
noiretextatique (21,386 posts)
85. they won't dare bring their asses to any black neighborhoods
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they will harass people who are outnumbered
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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #71)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:27 PM
jaysunb (8,002 posts)
80. And you KNOW this ! LOL
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Response to jaysunb (Reply #80)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:52 PM
noiretextatique (21,386 posts)
86. i WISH they'd come to oakland!
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:52 PM
indepat (19,068 posts)
12. Some one please assure me that Repubs won't resort to anything, no matter how illegal,
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that betters their chances of winning and seizing total control of the government. Have they no shame, have they no patriotism?
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Response to indepat (Reply #12)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:25 PM
Katashi_itto (1,842 posts)
26. Umm...you're dealing with Proto-Facists, are you kidding?
Response to indepat (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:28 PM
cheezmaka (436 posts)
81. Don't hold your breath. The best way to fight these Re-Thugs is for each of us to vote...
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Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) and take 5 other NEW voters with us...
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Response to indepat (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:46 PM
Mr.Bill (978 posts)
83. They also have no courage.
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They are cowards at heart.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:01 PM
JRLeft (1,953 posts)
13. I want a teabagger to get in my face. Please do it. I am begging you!
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:15 PM
aggiesal (1,557 posts)
14. The solution to this problem is ...
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to get out and teach the minority groups to vote early or vote by mail.
That way when Nov. 6th rolls around, all the minorities would have voted and these groups would have nobody to harass or challenge or intimidate. Vote Early or Vote By Mail. |
Response to aggiesal (Reply #14)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:52 PM
alfredo (46,860 posts)
20. In NC Americans for Prosperity is sending out absentee voter
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Ballots with the address, not of the county election officials, but of AFP. you know any votes for Obama will be thrown away.
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Response to alfredo (Reply #20)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:16 PM
SaveAmerica (4,983 posts)
40. my son got one of those, we trashed it. What about others who don't know to?
Response to SaveAmerica (Reply #40)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:56 PM
aggiesal (1,557 posts)
50. That's called "CAGING" and it's illegal
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No organization is allowed to do that, not even the Democratic or Republican party.
The only organization that do that is the County Registrar of Voters. You should gather those illegal ballots and report it to your local District Attorney. |
Response to aggiesal (Reply #50)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:21 PM
SaveAmerica (4,983 posts)
54. Going to look in recycling and call BoE tomorrow.
Response to SaveAmerica (Reply #54)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:16 AM
alfredo (46,860 posts)
57. Americans for Prosperity are a bunch of sleaze bags.
Response to SaveAmerica (Reply #54)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:56 PM
aggiesal (1,557 posts)
74. Here's how "CAGING" works . . .
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Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:58 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) A group like Americans for Prosperity or even the Republican Party
send out these fake ballots. There intent is to never turn them in because they're not real ballots. This accomplishes 3 things: 1) If you vote on these fake ballots, you now think you've voted. So you never show up to the polls to vote in person because you believe you've already voted. Which of course you haven't. 2) If you don't send the ballot back, the organization that sent it to you now believes you don't live at the address where they sent it. So, when you do go to vote at the polls on Nov. 6th, they'll have a poll watcher there, waiting for you to arrive, and then they challenge your right to vote. The Poll workers can't officially verify your legal right while at the polls so instead of giving you an official ballot, you're given a provisional ballot. At times, these provisional ballots are not counted, therefore in reality you never really voted. In 2004, during the Kerry/Bush election, the state of OHIO never counted 180,000 provisional ballots. 3) Your local Registrar of Voters is allowed to send out ballots or postcards for you to verify your current address. They do this under the guise that they are cleaning up their voter rolls, which they are legally allowed to do. Unfortunately, if you don't return the ROV's request because your used to seeing all these fake requests, the ROV will actually remove you from the REAL VOTER ROLLS. Now when you go to vote at your local precinct, your name is nowhere to be found. Your given a provisional ballot, but because your name has been officially removed from the voter rolls, the ROV will NEVER count your provisional ballot. This is insidious on soooo many levels. That's why I say to contact your local DA, and try to get these organizations into court and stop this practice before they disenfranchise more voters. |
Response to aggiesal (Reply #74)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:04 PM
SaveAmerica (4,983 posts)
77. Thanks, I thought provisional ballots are counted in close elections?
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Wouldn't '04 have counted as close in Ohio or was that another one of the many ways they used to disenfranchise voters?
Thanks for all this information. I will let you all know what I find out from the NC Board of Elections. |
Response to SaveAmerica (Reply #77)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:01 PM
aggiesal (1,557 posts)
84. Ohio should have counted the remaining provisional ballots
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Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:02 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) But they didn't because Kerry was supposedly down by 160,000
and he would have had to get 89% of the provisional ballots to just break even. This before they determined that votes stolen would have made it a much closer race. Read the book Witness To a Crime: A Citizen's Audit of an American Election By Richard Hayes Phillips.
Notice along the left hand side of the ballot displayed, how votes were stolen. Literally by placing a sticker over a Kerry/Edwards vote and then marking the Shrub/Cheater bubble. http://electiondefensealliance.org/witness_crime_citizens_audit_american_election |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:16 PM
bigdarryl (9,174 posts)
15. CALL IN THE NATION OF ISLAM
Response to bigdarryl (Reply #15)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:49 PM
Brigid (10,742 posts)
19. They just might show up,
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If they get word of voters of color being harrassed at the polls.
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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #15)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:16 PM
mopinko (39,761 posts)
67. i don't think they are big into voting.
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at least, i am pretty sure farrakhan tells people that it is a worthless placebo.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:33 PM
DemKittyNC (463 posts)
16. :(
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I never thought about this before. This will be the first time I can vote in my life I hope I don't get harassed outside my voting place. I don't know what I would do. They wouldn't stop me from voting that is for sure. I guess I would just run in really fast, vote then run back out. lol Of course I am white so they will probably just think I am voting republican and leave me alone. I hope everyone is safe and nothing bad happens to anyone in November
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Response to DemKittyNC (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:55 PM
alfredo (46,860 posts)
21. If there is any attempt at intimidation the poll sheriff will intervene
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On your behalf.
Our polling station is on private property, so we have an extra layer of protection. |
Response to DemKittyNC (Reply #16)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:38 PM
cheezmaka (436 posts)
82. you should be ok
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just take a BIG BROTHER with you or a GROUP of your friends.. These Republicans are on a sinking ship and have no choice but to try to "cheat"...
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:46 PM
defacto7 (3,616 posts)
18. This may be a good reason to hang around your polling place for a while...
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after voting. I will. If I see anything unusual, I will report it to officials and police. If reporting it doesn't help, I will take pictures, any evidence and post it wherever necessary.
It's another way to be involved in the process... on foot. If there are people with the energy to prohibit voting by harassment, we need to have the energy to do something about it. |
Response to defacto7 (Reply #18)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:58 PM
alfredo (46,860 posts)
22. The poll workers will handle any problems. The best thing to do
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Is work with local Dems in their GOTV efforts. They may need drivers for those who can't make it to the polls on their own.
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Response to alfredo (Reply #22)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:13 AM
defacto7 (3,616 posts)
59. Thanks, I'll look into it seriously.
Response to defacto7 (Reply #59)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:48 AM
alfredo (46,860 posts)
66. Working the polls is a good way to protect the vote. I get paid $255 to work as
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an election judge. We have two Reps, and two Dems. It works out well.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:00 PM
Brigid (10,742 posts)
23. I dare them to try that crap around here.
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I live near a heavily African-American neighborhood, so there shoud be (I hope) a good turnout at my polling place for Obama. Most of them don't seem to be the type to be easily intimidated. If those True the Vote idiots do show up here, I think I'll pull open my jacket and flash 'em my Obama T-shirt as I leave.
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Response to Brigid (Reply #23)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:16 PM
DemKittyNC (463 posts)
24. Your lucky
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I live smack dab in the middle of old racist white country republican land. There is like only 3 black kids in my school total and my high school is known for turning out the best tobacco farmers ever! It's like that is all the kids I go to school with ever hope to be in life. I hate it here, when I can I am totally moving the hell out of this state or at least this area I live in. lol
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Response to DemKittyNC (Reply #24)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:33 PM
Bluegene (29 posts)
55. Yes you should
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Come to the left coast. We will treat you right.
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Response to Brigid (Reply #23)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:41 PM
heaven05 (2,483 posts)
46. those
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Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:34 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) cowards won't show up where they would have to show some testicular material. No they would pick easy, I think mixed neighborhoods where they figure they can act with impunity? I don't know, but I bet they won't show up there. No way. They're basically cowards and like to have the numerical advantage. I learned against those sheet wearers in the south. Fight back, like my grandfather, a WWI and Spanish-American War vet(yes Rough Riders and Kettle Hill which was much rougher than San Juan Hill) and family did, they will leave and fast. Never bothered him again. Uppity Negro with 125 acres that he bought and developed into a fine chicken and fresh fruit farm. How do I know, day summer vacation started, no matter where I was, father in the army. I worked there all summer, many summers. I will still fight Period.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:35 PM
Diclotican (3,835 posts)
27. onehandle
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onehandle
The S.A in old Germany did that to - intimated everyone at the polling places - of course it was illegal, even by the standards of the Wiemar Republic, who caved into rubles in 1932-33.. And I think it is fair to give the Tea Party groups, who Will decent on polling places, to be at the same league as the old S.A of NSDAP.. They act absolutely in the same manner - intimate, scaring and bully people to be home rather than go out vote... Diclotican |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:39 PM
Cha (125,755 posts)
29. I would not be reacting too well if some
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asshole teabagger came into my neighborhood and tried the intimidation thing.
They need to get themselves to their voting booths and leave everyone else the hell alone. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:41 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
30. If it is "well-funded", then find and identify the funders.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:43 PM
notadmblnd (17,166 posts)
31. Baggers venturing into the hood?
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Not necessarily a good idea to piss people off while not on home turf.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:48 PM
CitizenPatriot (3,780 posts)
33. ugh
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saw this first hand in 2008 with your garden variety racists and police (even though that is against the law) patrolling in black districts and staring at minorities intimidatingly.
When I was voting in 2010, an old white guy ahead of me got really concerned about dead people voting and starting yelling to check all of the black people's ID in line. They almost threw him out, the poll worker rolled his eyes at me. I was pretty ticked off -- no American should be hassled like that. Video the vote is a good organization to help protect the vote, too. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:53 PM
Patiod (11,514 posts)
34. Really? Tea baggers coming to North Philadelphia to stop people from voting for Obama?
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Really?
That should be interesting. I would love to see that. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:57 PM
caseymoz (5,320 posts)
35. A million volunteers?
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That's dangerously psychotic. It's not like tea partiers awed people with the overwhelming attendance at their rallies, at least not counting the clackers from Fox News, and that was all astroturfing. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:58 PM
frylock (19,354 posts)
36. the best way to intimidate these shitters is to RECORD EVERYTHING..
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Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:58 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) bring your vidcams or cell phones to your polling station and don't be shy about getting them on camera. if they attempt to take or wreck your camera, kindly remind them that would be assault and that you will press charges.
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Response to frylock (Reply #36)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:51 AM
nanabugg (2,198 posts)
91. Carrying my FLIP to the polls. nt
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:59 PM
ejbr (3,953 posts)
37. Aren't there 2nd Amendment remedies? n/t
Response to ejbr (Reply #37)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:34 PM
smaug (230 posts)
52. Absolutely!
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America owns the polling places, not Faux Noise Tea Party cowards. And, I'm known to be a dead shot locally; and I'm militantly anti-reThuglikkklan. Plus, having a BLA magna cum laude with being a veteran and a shooting instructor tends to confuse the living peewaddlin' out of them.
I don't fit the 'liberal weenie' stereotype for 'em; in fact, I let them know I'm a leftist and not a liberal; a liberal will allow for their opinion: I WILL NOT. Loudly. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:07 PM
gordianot (6,531 posts)
38. Isn't this what the "Stand Your Ground Laws" were about?
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I would think this behavior would be very risky.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:13 PM
WillyT (46,355 posts)
39. K & R !!!
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:20 PM
SaveAmerica (4,983 posts)
41. I've already decided my main volunteerism will be on election day
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Can't win honestly, they'll do what they can to steal it.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:32 PM
thelarge (23 posts)
44. Steer Dust!
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I wasn't intimidated in Selma! I wasn't intimidated in B'ham! Nor Evergreen, MS! I won't be intimidated in TX!!! On election day, I will don the bib coveralls, my old SNCC button, my "Remember Sammie Young" armband, and my blue bandanna
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:34 PM
matt819 (3,882 posts)
45. What we need is UN Election Observation Teams
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The US has participated in these sorts of groups during elections in the third world. Sadly, I think such program needs to be put into place here, conspiracy theories and black helicopters be damned.
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Response to matt819 (Reply #45)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:46 PM
heaven05 (2,483 posts)
47. yeah
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get Jimmy Carter on it, he done the election observation thing.
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Response to heaven05 (Reply #47)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:35 PM
Mnemosyne (16,484 posts)
68. Sadly, the Carter Center doesn't observe US elections, I already asked them in 2004 and 2008.
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I was so disappointed.
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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #68)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:40 PM
heaven05 (2,483 posts)
69. well
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they should make an exception this time. It's really ugly out there. But I hear you. any reason as to why we don't rate?
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Response to heaven05 (Reply #69)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:28 PM
Mnemosyne (16,484 posts)
87. The R's would scream Democratic bias is what they told me. They definitely care though. nt
Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #87)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:35 AM
heaven05 (2,483 posts)
92. yeah
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I forgot about that bias thing. you are right. thanks
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Response to heaven05 (Reply #92)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:10 PM
Mnemosyne (16,484 posts)
95. No worries. :)
Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #68)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:12 PM
noiretextatique (21,386 posts)
72. i bet the unions would help...they were observers in South Africa
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i will forward this report to some union folks i know.
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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #72)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:32 PM
Mnemosyne (16,484 posts)
89. That would be great! Union folks have much to lose too, if they steal it again. nt
Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #68)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:42 PM
matt819 (3,882 posts)
75. I did, too.
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Maybe foreign journalists will do what US journalists no longer do.
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Response to matt819 (Reply #75)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:30 PM
Mnemosyne (16,484 posts)
88. We can only hope. They are setting up something, no doubt. nt
Response to matt819 (Reply #75)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:33 PM
Mnemosyne (16,484 posts)
90. It would be wonderful to have anyone watching our election. nt
Response to matt819 (Reply #45)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:30 AM
Monk06 (5,623 posts)
62. You need to take Federal elections out of the hands of State Attorneys General.
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That's the reason the Rs are so keen to get all the Governorships. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:50 PM
Scuba (27,198 posts)
49. They won't be Tea Party'ers, who are terrified of minorities. They'll be paid thugs.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:05 PM
Webster Green (13,900 posts)
51. In CA, they cannot interfere with the process in any way.
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Observers are allowed, but they cannot engage with voters or take photos.
If any of these idiots show up at the polling place that I'm in charge of, and don't play by the rules, I'll just call the sheriff to get rid of them. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:34 PM
Gothmog (4,526 posts)
53. We are expecting these idiots here in Fort Bend County
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In 2010, True the Vote was very active in Harris County and made life difficult for the Harris County party. Luckily for Harris County, the county chair Gerry Birnberg is a very good election law lawyer and got some DOJ support.
Fort Bend County is next to Harris County and we are expecting these idiots to be out in force. I am doing a couple of training sessions for poll watchers. The first will be in conjunction with the State Party on October 6 in Harris County. We are going to do our best to be ready for these idiots |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:11 PM
meow2u3 (14,015 posts)
56. The DOJ ought to be alerted to this plot
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This is a case of a conspiracy against rights, plain and simple. The entire "True the Vote" gang ought to be rounded up and locked up because they're liable to kill someone trying to exercise their rights.
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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #56)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:15 AM
Le Taz Hot (14,644 posts)
60. If Medical Marijuana isn't involved
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Holder's not interested.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:01 AM
simmonsj811 (341 posts)
58. Bring it on fleabag
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We are ready for those assholes in MIami, Fla for sure can wait to see'ya
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:34 AM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
65. This is PROOF that they know they cannot win fair and square.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:01 PM
just1voice (1,362 posts)
70. Everybody who's not a repuke gets intimidated at my polling place
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Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I've contacted the state in the past, they just send a courtesy reply and do nothing.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:26 PM
tjdee (18,042 posts)
73. Voting by mail for this reason.
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I live in a very Republican area and I'm a black woman. They see me coming from miles away and there are always people hanging outside my polling place. They have always been civil/nice enough but I am always uncomfortable anyway. Voting by mail for sure this time.
We live in a blue state so prevailing opinion among people here is that I don't have to vote at all, but I want to. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:48 PM
Speck Tater (10,618 posts)
76. You have to ask yourself...
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how many of those "poll watchers" are concealed carry holders? How ugly can things get? Things can get VERY ugly in a hurry if some racist hot head with a gun decides it's his duty to "protect the purity of his country".
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:10 PM
MrSlayer (21,563 posts)
93. I find the premise to be ludicrous on its face.
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Can you imagine some doughy teabagger venturing into the Badlands of North Philly or Oakland or Detroit or Cleveland and trying this shit? They'd get eaten. It's not like some stranger can just go walking into a minority neighborhood and cow the people like the master of a plantation. Hell no, they'd end up dead or worse.
Someone had better think twice. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:24 PM
KamaAina (45,652 posts)
94. Will they be wearing brown shirts?
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- Oh, they must mean the cops.