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Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:43 PM

Within Hours, Mitt Romney Takes Back Everything He Said About Preexisting Conditions

Source: Mother Jones

On national TV this morning, with millions of people watching, Mitt Romney told David Gregory that there were parts of Obamacare he actually liked. In fact, he said, one of the goals of his healthcare plan "is to make sure that those with preexisting conditions can get coverage." A few hours later, with approximately zero people listening, a spokesman quietly "clarified" what he meant:

In reference to how Romney would deal with those with preexisting conditions and young adults who want to remain on their parents’ plans, a Romney aide responded that there had been no change in Romney’s position and that “in a competitive environment, the marketplace will make available plans that include coverage for what there is demand for. He was not proposing a federal mandate to require insurance plans to offer those particular features.”


As it happens, we already have a competitive market for individual insurance. In addition, we already have demand for coverage of preexisting conditions. And yet, the marketplace doesn't make policies available to people with preexisting conditions.

Why? Because policies that cover preexisting conditions are big money losers unless you charge premiums high enough that no one could afford them. Because of that, nobody bothers to offer them in the first place. That's how the free market works. It would be nice if Romney could explain how he intends to square this circle.

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Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/09/within-hours-mitt-romney-takes-back-everything-he-said-about-preexisting-conditio

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highplainsdem Sep 2012 OP
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:46 PM

1. When is the MSM going to wake up that Mitt says lies so they make him look good

AND A few hours later takes them back.

This man is very,, very very sick. He deserves to be put in a mental institution, not the White House.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:48 PM

4. Good gawd... If they don't expose this habitual liar in full--well before the debates...

then our MSM needs to just hire out to be paid mouthpieces for whatever Banana Republic dictator will pay the most.

Baghdad Bob has been cloned over and over, it seems.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:17 PM

27. Look at the comments in the NYTimes on the story

What is really clear is that everyone is seeing that he has EVERY policy on EVERYTHING. I have looked (and responded) on the NYT in the past and while it is usually more liberal/moderate, there have always been moderate Republican (especially economic Republican) responses.

Here, I was reading the comments earlier (on a kindle as we drove home from an out of state trip). I read at least 50 comments before the first - and at that point hours ago - only pro Romney comment. This even though the article does not call him out itself - even on his strange comment that he is doing better since his convention - in spite of the polling results.

Here is the link - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/romney-would-keep-some-of-obamas-health-care-reform/?hp The comments are devastating if you are Romney. (Imagine if they saw what his campaign had to say!)

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Response to karynnj (Reply #27)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:58 PM

85. Romney following the Bible.

> What is really clear is that everyone is seeing that he has EVERY policy on EVERYTHING


I think he got that strategy from the Bible.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #85)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:08 AM

88. Book Of Mormon

aletier, slight typo, Mittens follows the Book Of Mormon. Very weird makes your head spin

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #85)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:04 AM

97. Is Mitt's Every Policy on Everything really Nothing going Nowhere


http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/beatles/nowhere+man_10026490.html
Nowhere Man, the world is at your command.
Beatles Nowhere Man Lyrics


He's as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see me at all?
Doesn't have a point of view,
Knows not where he's going to,

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #97)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:55 AM

100. wow, those lyrics are actually really apropos

Even the part about "the world is at your command," but especially "doesn't have a point of view."

Good job!

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #97)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:49 PM

111. Perfect theme song for Romney nt

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #97)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:24 AM

114. "No Where Men" ...that nails Rmoney and Lyan



I can just hear Biden sock it to them with that one

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #85)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:04 AM

98. not!!!

He is NOT a christian, he follows mormonism. He's going to golob, angels named macaroni and magic underwear and last but not least his religion makes him a god among mere men. And I guess that makes annie a goddess

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #85)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:47 PM

110. Not really

I know of no place in the old or new testament that would be a good guide for cutting Medicaid that provides health care to the poor'

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Response to karynnj (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:36 AM

90. This Is Why Romney's Handlers

Tell Romney "don't give any details". On Meet The Press Romney went off message and his staff was forced to pull back his statement. It is like Romney doesn't know what his current position is and he mixes it up with an earlier position that has long ago died an ugly death.

In that same interview he asks us to judge him on his principles. Before we can do that we need to know if he even has any principles. I keep looking yet there is nothing to see. Today's latest flip/flop is still another reason why that is the case.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:19 PM

103. I am seeing the comments are more anti-Romney than the journalism

For example, the other day on Facebook, a Romney page posted a baby supposedly giving him a high five through a window. Well, I went on it so see the idiocy of those commenting, and to say that the baby was certainly NOT giving him a high five. But the comments were so hilarious, I forgot to post!! Person after person was saying that the baby was trying to shut him up, since her hand was near his face in the picture, that even babies know liars, asking the baby to put soap in Romney's mouth for them, for all his lies, to even give him a smack for lying. It was one of the funniest things I have seen, those comments, and this on Facebook, with all the wingnuts who have accounts there. There were like 300 comments mocking the page and Romney and about 5 sticking up for him.

I truly think the American people dislike Romney a LOT more than the media is reporting. If he wasn't such an entitled asshole, I would almost feel sorry for him.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:13 AM

112. "Our MSM needs to just hire out to be paid mouthpieces...."

And how would that be different from now?

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:21 PM

29. Uh oh Mitt was speaking without his ventriloquist again, people are going to figure out he is just

a dummy

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:25 AM

94. Really Funny

If you would look to conservative posters, they believe that MSN is left of Joe Stalin. Could is be that the problem is commercial news panders to all groups, and that NPR (DIANE RHEMS especially) tries to balance the news?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:46 PM

2. Multiple Choice

Is his name flip flopping is his game...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:47 PM

3. This is the worst candidate I can remember in my lifetime.

What the hell is up with this guy?

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Response to reflection (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:11 PM

22. Me too, and I've been around for a while!!!

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Response to reflection (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:25 PM

34. Say that again...

I'm sorry if some folks are here from Massachusetts but how does your state elect Mittens as Governor AND seems like they are on the verge of re-electing Scott Brown? I...don't...get...it~

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #34)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:16 PM

66. This MittWitt

Isn't the Mass MittWitt.

Or maybe the best way to explain it.
We were young and in college and trying to experiment with new things.
1 term later, we decided that Mitt was full of Shit...

Brown? All I can tell you is EW isn't campaigning. There's nothing I hear or see of her around here.

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Response to Flatpicker (Reply #66)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:38 PM

70. Thanks for the explanation...

Makes it a bit clearer now.

As for E.W., darn shame! Can't win if one is not out touching, meeting and talking with voters.

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Response to reflection (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:42 PM

43. Agreed, at this rate, Miss Romney is going to have to implode at some point...

...this guy is a disaster.

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Response to reflection (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:53 PM

52. I feel the same way. Has there ever been a candidate who admit to having an off shore account?

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Response to reflection (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:04 PM

59. In my 83 years I have never seen anyone like Romney who was running for

top job.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #59)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:52 PM

74. I've got a little more than half those 83 years...

 

...and neither have I.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #59)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:12 PM

78. In my 49 years I have never seen anyone like Romney who was running for dogcatcher

This is the guy you run if you're TRYING to lose, and right now it looks like that's the GOP's game plan.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:49 PM

5. So he tries to appeal to the masses on TV, then has a spokesperson "quietly" walk it back

for the benefit of the base and his rich, powerful masters. Surely the media will call him out on this. Won't they?

He and his campaign folks are either diabolical or stupid......

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:49 PM

6. This is going to bite him HARD in the debates

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Response to budkin (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:18 PM

28. The Obama/Biden campaign has to be informed of this BEFORE the debates

in order to (let's hope) EXPOSE the LIAR (not the 'mis-speaker' nor the 'good family man' or whatever they say not to 'hurt' the un-decided).

Send it there, someone(s): http://barackobama.force.com/questions

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Response to Amonester (Reply #28)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:35 PM

38. Oh believe me, they know about this very well

I am quite confident we won't have to wait for the debates to go after this one, I would be very surprised if they don't hit hard on this tomorow.

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Response to budkin (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:27 PM

36. If Dems and Obama are on their game, tend to agree.

Romney doesn't get it.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:50 PM

7. Lying and changing his mind are his pre-existing conditions

WTF is wrong with him, SERIESLY?1??!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:50 PM

8. "In a minute there is time for decisions and revisions which a minute shall reverse". . .

(apologies to TS Eliot, but it seemed apropos to the Romney standard M.O.)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:51 PM

9. Not a flip-flop. More cynical than that.

Romney goes on national TV, announces he'll preserve pre-existing conditions. Sound bite gets on radio, TV, and newsprint. Independent voters listening with half attention hear that, say, "Well, that's enough for me. I'm voting Romney" and don't bother following up on the "clarification". Romney's campaign is counting on manipulating voters with teasers and fake outs like the one today.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:55 PM

12. Agreed.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:50 PM

50. The "clarification" was for his donors, not his voters.

The real Mitt will raise our taxes and give the proceeds to his rich friends. The real Mitt will attempt to eliminate every social program we have and give that money to his rich friends. The real Mitt will borrow billions if not trillions from China and give that money to his rich friends.

That's the real Mitt, but 99% of his voters don't know this. Otherwise they simply wouldn't vote for him regardless of how tinted Obama's skin is.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:12 PM

77. Local ABC News did not mention the retraction.

Left viewer with impression that Romney would keep the pre-existing condition provision.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:53 PM

10. When he was governor here

he spent the last 2 1/2 years mostly out of state badmouthing the state he was governor of. It was obscene watching him lay the ground word for his 2008 run for prez. This guy just wants the WH and AF1 to satisfy his ego, not to help anyone. He sux.

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Response to Submariner (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:57 PM

14. He used Massachusetts as a doormat.

"Governor" sure sounds better on a job resume, doesn't it?

You nailed it, friend.

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Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:12 AM

92. Christie and Romney try to top each other


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:53 PM

11. How can any person with even half a brain vote for this guy???

You can't believe a damn thing he says. About anything. EVER!!!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:57 PM

13. And the knuckle-dragging, Medicare-consuming, Social Security enjoying assholes....

 

will never hear this. They will believe that the gubmint should stay out of their healthcare and that their younguns will git them sum edukatshun and heltkare normal layk, from da company.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:59 PM

15. someone needs to tweet this to David Gregory, with some other visible hashtags...

do we have a #mittflop hashtag?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:59 PM

16. Willard ........ the Great American Liar and Fraud

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:01 PM

18. Worst candidate ever?

He is really, really bad at running for President. Thank goodness.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:07 PM

20. Serious question here:

When is someone - anyone - going to confront him nose-to-nose and demand that he stop his filthy lies and distortions?

I hope to see it on live TV in front of an audience of millions.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:39 PM

42. Obama, at the debates.

Full-court press, man-on-man defense.

Romney will sweat buckets.

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Response to chollybocker (Reply #42)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:44 PM

46. I hope you are right, and

Romney comes unglued like sleeves on a vest.

I am so sick of his lies and distortions going unchallenged by the media.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:08 PM

21. Etch-a-Sketch moment!

or

I was for it, before I was against it, before I was for it,....

Ugh. I'm dizzy from the whiplash...what an idiot.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:11 PM

23. not surprising since he's taking positions he is supposed to, rather than ones he believes or has

conviction in. add to that a goody goody two shoes want to seem like he's helping people religion and blind ambition to be president and this is the cause of this kind of muddled conflicting messaging that has plagued his political "career"

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:12 PM

24. Mitt gives me whiplash

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:16 PM

25. Mit is like fast paced ping-pong

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:16 PM

26. I see now why the campaign doesn't want to spill details about anything

Because when they do, it turns out to be the exact opposite of the thing they meant... I guess?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:23 PM

30. And this flake wants to be leader of the free world

LOL.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:24 PM

31. Disclaimer: The positions of this candidate in no way reflect

actual positions of this candidate."

Is that so hard to understand?

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Response to rurallib (Reply #31)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:22 PM

80. ROFL!

That was classic - you nailed it.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:24 PM

32. It's like the Three Faces of Eve - Mitt becomes a completely different person at will

and doesn't seem to know what the other Mitts are doing. In his case it's the hundred faces of Mitt.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #32)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:35 PM

39. Kidd you not...

We said this on our podcast radio show earlier today....that Mittens seems to have Dissociative Identity Disorder or D.I.D.

Take a look at the disorder, think about Mittens and see if you agree?

Dissociative identity disorder (DID), formerly called multiple personality disorder, is an illness that is characterized by the presence of at least two clear personality states, called alters, which may have different reactions, emotions, and body functioning.

Signs and symptoms of DID include memory lapses, blackouts, being often accused of lying, finding apparently strange items among one's possessions, having apparent strangers recognize them as someone else, feeling unreal, and feeling like more than one person.


http://www.medicinenet.com/dissociative_identity_disorder

Me think Mittens is not mentally well enough to serve in the office of President of the United States~

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #39)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:49 PM

49. "I don't know what I said, but I stand by it, whatever it was"

I've been wondering myself of what he might be hiding in his medical records.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #49)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:04 PM

60. That has to be the most bizarre statement ever from a presidential candidate.

Or a kindergartener. I get dizzy just reading what spills from his piehole.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:25 PM

33. matt taibi nailed it in the first four paragraphs of his rolling stone article:


Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital
How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill


The great criticism of Mitt Romney, from both sides of the aisle, has always been that he doesn't stand for anything. He's a flip-flopper, they say, a lightweight, a cardboard opportunist who'll say anything to get elected.

The critics couldn't be more wrong. Mitt Romney is no tissue-paper man. He's closer to being a revolutionary, a backward-world version of Che or Trotsky, with tweezed nostrils instead of a beard, a half-Windsor instead of a leather jerkin. His legendary flip-flops aren't the lies of a bumbling opportunist – they're the confident prevarications of a man untroubled by misleading the nonbeliever in pursuit of a single, all-consuming goal. Romney has a vision, and he's trying for something big: We've just been too slow to sort out what it is, just as we've been slow to grasp the roots of the radical economic changes that have swept the country in the last generation.

The incredible untold story of the 2012 election so far is that Romney's run has been a shimmering pearl of perfect political hypocrisy, which he's somehow managed to keep hidden, even with thousands of cameras following his every move. And the drama of this rhetorical high-wire act was ratcheted up even further when Romney chose his running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin – like himself, a self-righteously anal, thin-lipped, Whitest Kids U Know penny pincher who'd be honored to tell Oliver Twist there's no more soup left. By selecting Ryan, Romney, the hard-charging, chameleonic champion of a disgraced-yet-defiant Wall Street, officially succeeded in moving the battle lines in the 2012 presidential race.

. . . .

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829#ixzz261f45I28

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Response to niyad (Reply #33)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:55 PM

83. Trust Obama and his friends to expose Romney.

They've already gotten a good start.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:25 PM

35. He flips - his spokesman flops

I guess we should just all have the coverage that Ann and Mitt have - then we would know what suffering is /

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:30 PM

37. I feel your Bain, Mitt.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:37 PM

40. Political Ad Idea

The Obama Campaign needs to secure the rights to the Culture Club song Comma Chameleon. Show a Mitt head changing with every conflicting position to RED, GOLD and GREEN. One part of the lyrics says "I know a man without conviction." Hilarious, simple, memorable, and it illustrates a point.

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #40)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:48 PM

47. *Karma* Chameleon.

"...a man without conviction.
A man who doesn't know
how to sell a contradiction,
You come and go,
You come and go.
Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon...

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Response to chollybocker (Reply #47)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:00 PM

57. Thanks!

You're right about the lyrics. Good call!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:39 PM

41. Is this guy even able to make a single public appearance without a major gaffe?

Seriously, this is the most pathetic campaign I have ever witnessed. Is it possible that Mitt Romney is actually Sascha Baron Cohen with a super convincing make up job? He is starting to seem more like a satirist than a real candidate.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #41)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:27 PM

67. Another thing I been thinking about...

What if the Republicans ran Mittens for a purpose?

One, they have Paul Ryan -Mr. Tea Party Nation himself- serving as Backup Quarterback if Mittens implodes.

Two-Larry Flynt is offering $1 Million dollars to see Mittens financial records and tax returns. Hard to believe that Karl Rove did not KNOW this MIGHT happen. Also, it appears the Anonymous group has them and they want $1 Million Bitcons.

Three- The tax returns hit public (see above) and Republicans immediately pull support from Mittens and demand Ryan lead the ticket and Mittens go away....far, far away.

Four-Distract everyone (i.e.-The MSM, Voters, else) from where they are really pouring money into....the GOP House and Senate races.

Five- November 7th...Mitt's gone...Ryan's in (OMG...NO!!) along with House and Senate now GOP controlled. Or...House and Senate just GOP and President Obama has to VETO everything for the next four years...i.e. DREADLOCK!

This....is....scary as all get up to me. Thoughts?

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #67)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:06 PM

76. I agree, the whole Mitt, Ann thing is bizarre

We've got to keep focused on the local elections. They're up to something..

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:42 PM

44. Well, Duh!

What Romney told Gregory was not defensible at any level. The reasons are simple, as I pointed out in my response to the comment to Gregory. (Interesting that Gregory swollowed it hole). http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=224101

What this once again shows it that Romney can't think on his feet, even when the question is obvious -- indeed telegraphed. Romney doesn't seem to know which side of an issue he is on on any given day.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:44 PM

45. How can anyone trust Mr flip flop

He's freaking out again, and will flip flop on anything to try to get elected. Again, who can trust this whimp?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:49 PM

48. If Mitt wasn't so scary he would be hilarious...

What is even worse and I have felt this way a long time, is that people will vote for him. Back in the day, I don't know how far back, people wouldn't vote for someone like this, not in this country. I remember mostly from history, when Republicans actually had some values. Ike, must be rolling in his grave over today's republicans. I don't think he would recognize them. He would probably mutter something about fighting that type in other countries.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:52 PM

51. Oops, guess they got the phone call from the insurance companies today.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #51)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:06 PM

61. Exactly - the insurance companies insisted on the individual mandate before agreeing to cover

pre-existing conditions, back in the early stages of the formulation of ObamaCare. I'm sure that happened in Massachusetts too under Romney -- that's no doubt why RomneyCare in Mass. has an individual mandate. Romney is aware of this, so why he decided to open up the pre-existing can of worms (tied as it is to the individual mandate), who knows. Some desperation move on his part considering the recent poll numbers?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:54 PM

53. More of that "empathy"

That Queen Ann, keeps claiming they possess....what a crock!!!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:58 PM

54. Mr. Wizard is going to do it all - let the magic of the marketplace work

That worked real well with Bush II, so no reason why it wouldn't work great with Romney {sarcasm}

Some comment I posted on a news article in response to some CONNEDservative goober:

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And don't fool yourself that Romney is going to fix things -- all he does is tell you he's going to cut tax rates 20%, increase core defense spending $2 trillion over a decade, and have balanced budgets -- yeah right, Mr. Wizard. He won't tell us how he might make all this happen, what tax deductions he's going to eliminate etc. No wonder Newsweek did a "Wimp Factor" cover story on him. Massachusetts under Mr. Wizard was 47th in job creation and first in per-capita debt. While the U.S. as a whole had 5% growth, Romney's Massachusetts grew 0.9%. And it had a decline in real median income. And you have no idea what Governor Etch-a-Sketch will do as president as he changes his positions radically depending on what campaign he's running.

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Now Romney is going to solve the problem of affordable premiums for pre-existing conditions (no details given except the magic of the unfettered marketplace). More Mr. Wizard. Wizard Mitt Romney, not Willard Mitt Romney.

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Response to progree (Reply #54)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:03 PM

58. Help Me Mr. Wizard!

Don't forget the new wars with Iran and the "Soviet Union!"

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #58)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:10 PM

63. time for this one to go home

one of his half dozen homes,that is.

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Response to central scrutinizer (Reply #63)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:11 PM

65. LOL

LOL!

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #58)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:11 PM

64. And Syria n/t

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:58 PM

55. What is WRONG with this person???

I don't know how I can make it for 2 more months because every damn day this numbskull utters something so ridiculous I feel like my head will explode.

And with Ryan and Queen Ann in the mix, I feel defenseless.

I can't believe that anyone with functioning brain cells would vote for this nut. Well, unless you're part of the 1% or an animal abuser.

Yuk.

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Response to spiderpig (Reply #55)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:55 PM

84. Driving home today

I actually saw the car in front of me (a newer gray Ford Taurus) at a stop light with a Mitt bumper sticker on the OUTSIDE of the back window. At first, I started to take a picture with my phone but then, I had two thoughts.

FIRST-This is Michigan, the driver is driving a Ford Taurus and the person who they support for President stated "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt". God bless them.

SECOND- Yep, people who would vote for Mittens can't think as deeply as I just did in two minutes at a stop light.

Then I shook my head and drove on. Yes, the group that support Mittens have little to no functioning brain cells.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #84)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:45 AM

91. Don't you just...

...shoot - I can't even describe it. Is half this nation in the grip of Stockholm syndrome or what!

(You ought to hear the yelling and screaming that emanates from this house when we see his stupid face of TV. Though we try to confine our viewing to Food Network and History Channel in the interest of our mental health.)

Oops - have to watch MasterChef and Hell's Kitchen, even though they're on Fox. Sorry!!!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:59 PM

56. The speed of his flip flop may very well have exceeded the speed of light...

If we could just harness the Romney Warp drive, we could send him away to wards the edge of the Universe.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:08 PM

62. Private Insurance companies had 60 yrs to come up a universal plan, they chose profits!

And now the insurance companies have a puppet in Romney/Ryan and they expect to take us back wards. The insurance companies had plenty of time to come up with competitive marketable plans for individuals and families. Instead, they found ways to dump people whose health care requirements threatened their profits short term. The dumped small companies that had employees that got sicker than others or who had employees that made demands on the coverage. The increased Health care premiums for employees over 40% in last t 10 yrs and they created High Deductible plans that cost a fortune and put middle class families at a disadvantage. Imagine, an average income worker earning $36,000 a year paying $ 6,000 a yr in premiums and having to put another $3200 into a hlth savings plan to cover medical costs. That is a huge chunk of ppls earnings and it is a national disgrace. I used to think with 4 kids and a good insurance plan: $750.00 deductible, I still felt like I owed the pediatrician the national debt and never saw the end of the bills until the youngest was 12. And I cant imagine the agony of a mother not being able to get health care for a sick child. That has to be one of the most painful experiences in a life time.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:31 PM

68. How can he get away with this over and over again?



- That's how......

K&R

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #68)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:04 PM

102. that's exactly how

The GOP counts on that.

Nice find!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:34 PM

69. Romney is a Frightening Yo Yo

Another big fat Flip Flop. Romney is totally ridiculous. He has no policies at all. The tea party probably screamed bloody murder today regarding his Obamacare statement and here he went etch a skech again. How pathetic can this man be?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:46 PM

71. The half life of his lies is quickly decreasing.

Perhaps not coincidentally, the rate of decay of Romney's statements from "plausible" until they disappear in a puff of untruth seems to be following this graph:



Just replace "number of atoms of a specific isotope" with "number of people who believe Romney's latest bullshit statement" and soon the graphs might just be interchangeable.

Romney is definitely radioactive.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:48 PM

72. Etch-a-Sketch Alert!

They have most certainly been getting pushback on 'Obamacare'. I sense that the tide has turned on this issue. Romney had vowed to abolish 'Obamacare' in its entirety, but now SURPRISE! there are itty-bitty pieces of it he somehow likes, based a growing acknowledgement of the many benefits that this program includes. And what he still doesn't like no doubt falls under the broad definition of, uh, what's it called now -- Oh Yeah, ROMNEYCARE!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:49 PM

73. Williard the Multiple Choice Candidate.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:55 PM

75. Everything you need to know about Rmoney in one picture

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:16 PM

79. OMG says Romney's handlers

The Mittbot is malfunctioning and needs to be rebooted.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:25 PM

81. This MUST be one of the things clarified BIG-TIME

like during the debates..

This dude is slippery as a greased snake.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:35 PM

82. I was extremely surprised when I read that earlier. Why?

I know a great many of the health insurance entities and pharmaceutical companies are donating heavily to Romney. Someone heard that statement and called the campaign to complain. These organizations don't want The Affordable Care Act repealed; they want the Republicans to win so the legislation stays in place (look at all those new customers!) but the consumer protection provisions repealed. Two in particular they want GONE are the provision banning discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions, including children born with them, and they want the lifetime caps on policies re-instituted. And so they shall be, Romney thinks, because it is what THEY want that is important....

Sam

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:26 AM

86. Romney thinks Americana are idiots!

I have grown so weary of this campaign's bullshit!

First, they show up for the job interview and refuse to hand over their resume (tax
returns). Then, they lie their asses off about Obama gutting the welfare work requirement and about Obama raiding Medicare.

Now, they refuse to tell us details about their tax plan or how they would balance the budget.

It's just insulting and a big joke. These guys are not serious people. They sure as hell don't know how to run for office. How in the hell could they possibly run the country?

These two are a disgrace and their bullshit is getting real old real fast.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:03 AM

87. I can't wait till the debates,

when Obama can tell Romney to his face about this typical flip flop. Like Ted Kennedy calling Romney "multiple choice" on abortion back in 1994.

Check out this site, WhichMitt.com, for more Romney flip flops. I'd like Obama to ask "which Mitt" sometime during a debate!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:13 AM

89. Mittens

Romney would for sure, and rather quickly "eliminate" several thousand and more of us old folks(

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:24 AM

93. MotherJones is great

But will this get out to the National Media? This news has to be out to as many people who watched MTP. Cause you know David Gregory won't say a peep

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:05 AM

95. If the market made it available then we wouldn't have needed the law.

It's not Romney saying this that bothers me, it's the fact that there are people who will believe this does though.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:02 AM

96. Maybe his plan is for people with preexisting conditions to buy into medicare at reasonable rates

Then, one by one, we'd all be on medicare as we develop all develop conditions at some time during our lives. Next thing you know, we'd have universal health care.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:26 AM

99. Would "Etch-a-Flop" or "Flip-a-Sketch" work better as nicknames?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:02 PM

101. Republicans are Freaking Flip Flopping Pharisees

sheesh

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:49 PM

104. So, where does Rmoney stand on this issue TODAY??

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:54 PM

105. The Fort Worth Star Telegram gave the first statement big coverage

did not mention the backtrack. So, now voters think Romney wants to let those with pre-existing conditions get insurance, when the truth is he wants to let insurers do whatever makes them the most money, i.e. cherry pick healthy people.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:32 PM

106. And to think Romney was the BEST of the Republican field

If anyone needs more proof that the Republican Party has devolved into a collection of criminals, religious kooks, half-wits and lunatics, they need look no further than the fact that Willard Mitt Romney was considered the best that the formerly Grand Old Party had to offer.

The important thing is that today's Republicans never, ever, be given access to nuclear weapons. It would be like giving a loaded pistol to a 3-year-old child.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:33 PM

107. If he gets in, he immediately goes for broke to wreck Medicare, Social Security

and every program that he and the Koch brothers don't need. He's a hope killer.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:40 PM

108. That creature doesn't need an Etch-a-Sketch. He needs a trampoline.

He's a hollow man, nothing there but greed.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:04 PM

109. "how he intends to square this circle"

probably with an etch-a-sketch

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:16 AM

113. Pathological.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:56 AM

115. From RW NY Daily News: "Health-care reform is Romney's preexisting condition"

In other words, his response to Obamacare and its individual mandate — the Obama policy that Republicans hate most, and one he promised to repeal on "day one" — is that he’ll get rid of the law...but keep many pieces of the same law. Sure, he’ll sign an Obamacare repeal if it passes through Congress, but he wants to let Americans have dessert without eating their peas.

Because dealing with the pre-existing condition problem — or allowing policyholders to keep adult children on their coverage — requires some kind of mechanism like the individual mandate. Otherwise, people will wait until they get sick to get insurance, and the market will completely break down.

That’s why there’s a mandate in Obamacare. And it’s why MassCare — a/k/a Romneycare — had the individual mandate built into it.

There's a chance Obamacare may not work in reality, but Romneycare Part Deux — the way Romney now describes it — won’t even work in theory.

But what’s worse is the story this tells about Romney: The politics of "have your cake and eat it too" is quickly becoming his calling card.


http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/09/health-care-reform-is-romneys-preexisting-condition

While he panders to the right constantly, some seem to realize that he will say anything to anyone. His goal is not a particular set of policies. His only goal is to make Mitt Romney president.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:08 AM

116. Seems the Republican tactic this time around is lie on TV and tell the truth


through spokesmen and women 'clarifying' his positions ten minutes later after the show.

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Response to Monk06 (Reply #116)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:54 AM

117. The show they lied on should always have a breaking news disclosure as soon as they take back their

lies

And also follow up a few times to ensure their listeners are informed of the actual truth.

Do this enough of times then maybe they may start telling the truth more often.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #117)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:04 AM

118. They should do a split screne before and after vid for everythin he says here on in.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:42 AM

119. He's such a f**king loser.

 

nt

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