Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:10 AM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
Romney: Voters can look to 'principles' for sense of how he'd govern
Source: NBC News
Mitt Romney argued Sunday that voters should have enough of a sense of his principles to have confidence in how he'd handle the nitty-gritty details of taxes, spending and health care as president. -snip- Romney's tax plan calls for making a 20 percent, across-the-board cut to marginal tax rates while keeping most existing taxes on investment the same (and cutting investment taxes altogether for households earning less than $200,000.) The former Massachusetts governor has argued that if "we limit or eliminate some of the loopholes and deductions at the high end," he could maintain current levels of tax revenue while also stimulating growth. But, pressed for specifics, Romney resisted, and said his "principles" make up the details of his policy. "The specifics are these, which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy," he said. "And I've indicated as well that — contrary to what the Democrats are saying — I'm not going to increase the tax burden on middle income families. It would absolutely be wrong to do that." -snip- Read more: http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/09/13759896-romney-voters-can-look-to-principles-for-sense-of-how-hed-govern
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| highplainsdem | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| C_U_L8R | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| Heather MC | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| Kurovski | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| La Lioness Priyanka | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| LynneSin | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| jmowreader | Sep 2012 | #35 | |
| Webster Green | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| Angry Dragon | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| Botany | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| Kurovski | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| Moosepoop | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| ewagner | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| silverweb | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| TBF | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| Ikonoklast | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| sofa king | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| LynneSin | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| malthaussen | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| socialindependocrat | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| iemitsu | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| imanamerican63 | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| bluemarkers | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| Raven | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| Turbineguy | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| RBInMaine | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| liberal N proud | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| high density | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| hollysmom | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| neverforget | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| tjdee | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| muriel_volestrangler | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| Texas-Limerick | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| KANTANA | Sep 2012 | #36 | |
| gkhouston | Sep 2012 | #37 | |
| susanna | Sep 2012 | #38 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:15 AM
C_U_L8R (15,744 posts)
1. Is hiding your taxes a principle?
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I think we can expect more lying and deception from this Romney jerk.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:18 AM
Heather MC (4,805 posts)
2. NOT ONE FACT CHECKER OR NEWS ORGANIZATION HAS SAID THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS LYING ABOUT MITTS TAX PLAN
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but how many have called Mittens out for lying all of them
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Response to Heather MC (Reply #2)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:41 PM
Kurovski (33,249 posts)
28. It's all about the faith-based voting.
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The facts are trying to mess with your god-given instincts, according to Romney.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:21 AM
La Lioness Priyanka (45,835 posts)
3. which principles? the governor of MA principles or the republican nominee for president principles?
Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #3)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:10 AM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
15. He changes principles more often than I change underwear
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Last edited Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:10 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) He's an idiot.
And for the record I change at least once a day! |
Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #3)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:19 PM
jmowreader (23,905 posts)
35. Neither. The principles he ran his business by.
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"Run up huge debts, let other people pay for them."
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:23 AM
Webster Green (13,895 posts)
4. Indeed. That's why he will lose.
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What an idiot!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:35 AM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
5. I would ask Willard HIS definition of 'middle income families'
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:44 AM
Botany (36,027 posts)
6. 'principles' R you kidding me?
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Last edited Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:49 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) Mitt made his money screwing people ...... end of story.
Use leveraged money to buy a company for much less then it was worth, load that company w/ massive debt that you have no intention of repaying, charge that company large "management fees", outsource the work, loot the pension funds, fire the workers & sell off the bones of the company, shift the cost of the workers health insurance to the government, walk with millions of $s, and then hid your money in overseas bank accounts. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829 ![]() |
Response to Botany (Reply #6)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:46 PM
Kurovski (33,249 posts)
30. +1000. Please folks, take the time to go to the above linked article, and pass it on.
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Especially to your Republican/Independent family members!
The article is eye-opening. A wall street insider says that Romney's Bain work was actually a "bust-out", a mob technique for "making" money. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:44 AM
Moosepoop (1,485 posts)
7. "The specifics are these, which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy."
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That doesn't even make sense as a sentence. Sarah Palin would be proud.
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Response to Moosepoop (Reply #7)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:24 AM
ewagner (17,356 posts)
17. It only makes sense....
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if you are fluent in CEO-Speak.....
In CEO speak, you make broad, generalized pronouncements and tell your PEOPLE to figure out how to do it. In other words, he won't have to do anything but PONTIFICATE from the Oval Office, (or, more likely from one of his vacation homes) and have his "people" do the dirty work. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:45 AM
silverweb (12,959 posts)
8. Says the man with no firm principles.
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Wet a finger and hold it up to see which way the breeze is going. Throw a dart while blindfolded. Flip a coin. That's how "firm" Rmoney's "principles" are.
As another thread pointed out, his god is gold and his purpose is purely unenlightened self aggrandizement. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:51 AM
TBF (18,401 posts)
9. I understand his principles -
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Last edited Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:51 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) more tax breaks for the rich, accelerated austerity for the poor, no rights for women. No thank you Sir Romney.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:52 AM
Ikonoklast (21,620 posts)
10. He has none besides whatever makes Mitt the most money.
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If you've ever dealt with a businessman like Mitt, you soon find out that their words are meaningless, they don't even honor contracts they signed themselves.
"Well, see you in court!" they chuckle. So I did. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:02 AM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
11. I always taught my boys to never lie
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That was the most important. It seems Romney and Ryan really think it is okay to lie. That is very bad principals in my opinion.
I also taught them to share. They were helpful to the less fortunate and my younger son's favorite project was the homeless. and to be respectful and to be world citizens, although we are all proud of being Canadian. I remember visiting NJ relatives and my 10 year old asked where are all the people of color. He was used to being in a Toronto school filled with kids around the world. And when he was a man and I moved into a neighborhood he thought was all white, he said the Why was was I moving into a "white bread" neighborhood. It turned out it wasn't. My street was a little UN. I taught them it was okay to be dirty and disagree with courtesy. And they loved all kinds of foods and customs. They didn't get a car when they were old enough to car, nor did I pay for their education. They worked for everything.. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:05 AM
sofa king (8,686 posts)
12. I think he said, "principals."
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As in, "the original amount invested, separate from earnings."
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:05 AM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
13. Why would Americans want to buy something without knowing what they are getting
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Trust me, sounds like a used car salesman's pitch...or one of those preachers on TV.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:09 AM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
14. Only principles I need to know is how he laid off 100s of thousands of workers so he could profit
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That concept alone would have me voting for the other guy.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:18 AM
malthaussen (2,219 posts)
16. Proving once again that Mr Romney cannot open his mouth without lying.
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He couldn't possibly want to be judged on his principles, since to do so would garner him zero votes.
-- Mal |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:31 AM
socialindependocrat (1,372 posts)
18. Exactly: He'd lie, give money to the wealthy and do what the Koch bros tell him to do!
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Our country woud be run by the Koch brothers for the benefit of the corporations.
Talk about cornering the market! The Koch brothers would have bouhgt the whole country! That would end life as we used to know it!!!! |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 12:01 PM
iemitsu (1,783 posts)
19. the same principles that allow mitt to gut businesses, fire employees, and steal their pensions
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without remorse?
i'm not sure his principles are those a leader ought to embody. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 12:08 PM
imanamerican63 (508 posts)
20. Yikes!!!!
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He has no principles! He won't show the American people his taxes! You have principles when you tell the truth and have nothing to hide!!!!!!! This man only knows principle in terms of what has made off his riches!!!!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 12:55 PM
bluemarkers (454 posts)
21. etch a sketch principles?
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I guess we was telling the truth that day - 'cause he sure does like to shake that things and start over...
He's a classic flip flopper, the kind of wishy washy worm that gopers generally don't like. ? I don't understand how anyone can vote for him! |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 01:07 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,838 posts)
22. When you find some let me know. nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 01:25 PM
Raven (11,049 posts)
23. Governor, I'm sorry, I can't see
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your principles from my house.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 01:59 PM
Turbineguy (16,528 posts)
24. Under Romney's plan the middle class will not be paying higher taxes
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because they'll be earning less.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:08 PM
RBInMaine (9,454 posts)
25. FLIP FLOP MITT THE TWIT ROBME AND PRINCIPLES???? This guy is a FUCKING JOKE !
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:10 PM
liberal N proud (43,661 posts)
26. Romney has principles?
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:12 PM
high density (13,379 posts)
27. "Vote for me for more jobs, higher income, and lower taxes"
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These two morons Rmoney and Ryan have nothing to offer other than happy talk.
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Response to high density (Reply #27)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:43 PM
hollysmom (1,254 posts)
29. worked for Reagan
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:49 PM
neverforget (6,313 posts)
31. His only principle is Money and how to acquire more of it.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:09 PM
tjdee (18,042 posts)
32. What's weird is that he NEVER brings up his governorship.
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Relying on someone's "principles" seems so no-experience, so nowheresville....seems he should be going "As governor or Massachussetts..."
They are really acting totally idiotic this campaign cycle. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
muriel_volestrangler (65,285 posts)
33. Neutral think tank: Romney tax proposals will increase taxes on middle income families
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Romney's campaign used to approve the think tank (until they pointed out what his tax policies would do - then they started calling them 'liberal'). See http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=223932
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:35 PM
Texas-Limerick (93 posts)
34. Mitt's Favorite Things
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Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:20 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) Corporate welfare and outsourcing labor
Insider trading and slipping a Senator a favor Large unmarked bills tied up in strings These are a few of my favorite things French waiters bringing a sorbet and soufflé Room service in Paris and a squirt from a bidet Swiss bankers who treat us like kings These are a few of my favorite things Privatizing the profits and socializing the losses Layoffs for workers and bonuses for bosses The release from liability that bankruptcy brings Theses are a few of my favorite things When a reporter questions When they replay my old videos When poor people vote I simply remember my favorite things Then fight the urge to gloat |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:01 AM
KANTANA (32 posts)
36. But, pressed for specifics, Romney resisted, and said his "principles" make up the details of his po
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Mittens, your "principles" make up for details in your policy? Hahahahaha Lol. Incredible!! I get it Willard, I just took a second look at a few of your "principles".................
1) Pathological lying 2) Say different things to different groups of people to make them happy. 3) Have no position on any issue, or have all positions. 4) Claim to love America but bet against the dollar and the economy. 5) Hide your money in foreign banks and tax heavens. 6) Avoid paying taxes by using every trick and loop hole in the book. 7) Always wear your magic underwear. 8) Refuse to make your taxes and finances known to the american people even though your father taught you to be honest by releasing 12 years of his tax returns. 9) Misquote the President for political gains. 10) Say nothing about your record at Bain, Massachusett, or Salt Lake City winter olympics. Mittens, these are not principles I will rely on for any details. Sorry! |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:47 AM
gkhouston (21,642 posts)
37. The only principle I'm sure Romney has is that he'll say anything to get elected. n/t
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:33 AM
susanna (4,316 posts)
38. But WHERE are the tax returns, Mitt?
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I'm not stupid. I'd like to look them over. Since you're applying for a pretty big job and all...
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