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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:02 PM

Indi Guy (3,065 posts)

Obama widens lead over Romney despite jobs data: Reuters/Ipsos poll...

Source: Reuters

President Barack Obama, picking up support following the Democratic National Convention, widened his narrow lead over Republican U.S. presidential challenger Mitt Romney in a new Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Saturday.

The latest daily tracking poll showed Obama, a Democrat, with a lead of 4 percentage points over Romney. Forty-seven percent of 1,457 likely voters surveyed online over the previous four days said they would vote for Obama if the November 6 elections were held today, compared with 43 percent for Romney.

"The bump is actually happening. I know there was some debate whether it would happen... but it's here," said Ipsos pollster Julia Clark, referring to the "bounce" in support that many presidential candidates enjoy after nominating conventions.

Obama had leapfrogged Romney in the daily tracking poll on Friday with a lead of 46 percent to 44 percent...


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/08/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE88619X20120908

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Reply Obama widens lead over Romney despite jobs data: Reuters/Ipsos poll... (Original post)
 Indi Guy Sep 2012 OP
LineReply Oh, GOOD.
 CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #1
LineReply Good
 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2012 #2
LineReply K&R
 David Zephyr Sep 2012 #3
LineReply The MSM Loves To Give Republicans A Free Pass On Jobs
 TomCADem Sep 2012 #4
LineLineReply Actually, not many Americans do understand. And its worse than that.
 Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #7
LineLineLineReply I Think The Fact That Obama Is Leading Despite Tidal Wave Of Lies and Ads...
 TomCADem Sep 2012 #9
LineLineLineLineReply It should not be this close
 Cosmocat Sep 2012 #14
LineLineLineLineNew Reply I disagree, most people do NOT understand how the rethugs have obstructed progress on jobs.
 speedoo Sep 2012 #20
LineLineLineReply The American people are smarter than you think
 Dustin DeWinde Sep 2012 #13
LineLineLineLineReply Actually, I would make the same +ve bet. Especially as a long run bet. GOP fooling ending soon. nt
 Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #17
LineLineLineReply 14,000 public school jobs lost in Pa last year
 Cosmocat Sep 2012 #16
LineReply despite jobs data
 Botany Sep 2012 #5
LineLineReply Yes. Despite jobs data.
 Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #6
LineLineLineReply Problem is, most presidents DON'T create 200,000 jobs a month...
 Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #10
LineLineLineLineReply Absolutely positive. (chart)
 Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #18
LineLineLineReply Unemployment dropped by .02%
 Cosmocat Sep 2012 #15
LineLineLineNew Reply That was the best report for an August in the past 6 years.
 Botany Sep 2012 #21
LineLineLineLineNew Reply That's point that needs to be made: "best report for an August in the past 6 years". Other months?
 Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #22
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply take a look ... July 2012 data not included
 Botany Sep 2012 #24
LineReply The contrast between parties has never been greater
 mountain grammy Sep 2012 #8
LineReply Shouldn't that be "despite the MSM SPIN ON jobs data"????
 Zoeisright Sep 2012 #11
LineReply I wish they'd now start making a big push to get a Congress which supports adding jobs.
 SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2012 #12
LineLineNew Reply Me too!
 polichick Sep 2012 #26
LineReply Sweet.
 kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #19
LineNew Reply But everyone is already locked in ...
 JoePhilly Sep 2012 #23
LineNew Reply These are just the early polls.
 Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #25
LineNew Reply It's still too early to say what the jobs numbers will mean, if anything
 WI_DEM Sep 2012 #27
LineNew Reply Banana Republicans and Tea Party Economics
 bucolic_frolic Sep 2012 #28
LineNew Reply Just wait until the debates.
 toddwv Sep 2012 #29

Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:12 PM

Star Member CaliforniaPeggy (103,958 posts)

1. Oh, GOOD.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:12 PM

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (6,600 posts)

2. Good

The last thing we need is that entitled POS and his lying buddy running the country.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:14 PM

Star Member David Zephyr (22,583 posts)

3. K&R

This is the news I've been waiting for.

Thanks, Indi Guy for passing this along.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:23 PM

TomCADem (6,371 posts)

4. The MSM Loves To Give Republicans A Free Pass On Jobs

I think many Americans understand that the GOP has not lifted a finger to address jobs during the two years they have controlled the House. Indeed, many folks can see that Republicans are purposely trying to hurt the recovery to the point of voting against proposals they previously supported.

Nonetheless, the MSM still tries to push the narrative that President Obama is at fault while giving obstructionists like Paul Ryan a free pass.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:43 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)

7. Actually, not many Americans do understand. And its worse than that.

The Republicans have not simply failed to lift a finger. They lifted a fist to smash job creation programs.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:12 PM

TomCADem (6,371 posts)

9. I Think The Fact That Obama Is Leading Despite Tidal Wave Of Lies and Ads...

...is due to the fact that many people do understand. If Republicans were held accountable by the MSM, President Obama and Democrats generally would be winning by a landslide. As things stand, it will be a close race due to the MSM's failure to hold Republicans accountable and the heavy inflow of corporate money to prop up Republicans.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:01 PM

Cosmocat (5,395 posts)

14. It should not be this close

It really shouldn't.

A REAL testament to the capacity for the "liberal" media to work against the democrats and protect the republicans.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:37 PM

speedoo (11,229 posts)

20. I disagree, most people do NOT understand how the rethugs have obstructed progress on jobs.

There has been virtually no coverage of the fact that the rethugs have been blocking a strong jobs stimulus proposed by the President a hear ago.. If more people knew that this election would be over.

I think Obama's margin right now is a function of how bad a candidate Romney is. He is simply not likable, while Obama is very likable and folks are not willing to fire him.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:39 PM

Dustin DeWinde (72 posts)

13. The American people are smarter than you think

Obama bet his presidency on the idea that smart americans outnumber teabag types. the fact that he is winning shows he was right.


Your point about GOP obstruction/sabotage was right on the money

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:11 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)

17. Actually, I would make the same +ve bet. Especially as a long run bet. GOP fooling ending soon. nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:07 PM

Cosmocat (5,395 posts)

16. 14,000 public school jobs lost in Pa last year

because a republican govenor and state house/senate cut the education budget by a billion dollars.

From DC to every republican controlled state in the country, they have absolutely done everything they could to can public sector employees.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:34 PM

Star Member Botany (36,035 posts)

5. despite jobs data

2 1/2 years straight of private sector job growth is bad?

Going from losing 750,000 jobs per month to gaining 96,000 per month is bad?

And the jobs #s would be much better if the republicans were not working on
tanking the economy in order to gain political power.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:41 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)

6. Yes. Despite jobs data.

It takes something like 200,000 jobs growth per month just to keep up with population growth. So 96,000 is disappointing.

Obama's been doing a heck of a lot better than Bush, whose presidency averaged 75,000 jobs per month. But there is more to be done.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:13 PM

Drunken Irishman (24,587 posts)

10. Problem is, most presidents DON'T create 200,000 jobs a month...

People get caught up in this idea that you can sustain monthly job gains of 200,000 and it just isn't possible.

Especially when the economy is still in a slow recovery. MAYBE at the peak of an economic boom, but even then, it's not unheard of to get a jobs report that is weaker than expected ... in 1996, Clinton's reelection, we actually LOST jobs one month. It happens.

96,000 on its own isn't good - but the trend? It's still positive for Obama.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:13 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)

18. Absolutely positive. (chart)

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:05 PM

Cosmocat (5,395 posts)

15. Unemployment dropped by .02%

Unemployment DROPPED and the headline is "despite" the jobs report.

I get the underyling issue of underemployment, people giving up looking for a job, ect.

But, this was NOT a BAD jobs report, especially in the context of the jobs reports we have seen for the last four years.

It is a concerted effort by the "liberal" media to mitigate the DNC KILLING the RNC by spinning this as a BAD jobs report.

It might not be GREAT, it might not even be good.

But, it sure is not bad given where we are right now.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:42 PM

Star Member Botany (36,035 posts)

21. That was the best report for an August in the past 6 years.

and yet it is labeled as disappointing?

If the republicans would quit trying to tank the economy we would be at least
1 to 3 points better on unemployment #s. Because if those teachers, fireman,
cops, and other public sector workers had jobs then they would spend money
and that in turn would stimulate the economy which would lead to more jobs
being created.

As far as the more to be done "thing" it is to make people understand that
the middle class is the job creators not the rich because we have to spend
our money and they don't.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:49 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)

22. That's point that needs to be made: "best report for an August in the past 6 years". Other months?

I wonder how recent other months stack up?

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:57 PM

Star Member Botany (36,035 posts)

24. take a look ... July 2012 data not included



it is better than April, May, & June 2012 job's #s.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:43 PM

Star Member mountain grammy (1,593 posts)

8. The contrast between parties has never been greater

More people watched Clinton's speech than Wednesday night football.. Oh please, let this be a sign that people realize they can a do make a difference.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:22 PM

Star Member Zoeisright (7,813 posts)

11. Shouldn't that be "despite the MSM SPIN ON jobs data"????

Fucking MSM.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:29 PM

Star Member SleeplessinSoCal (1,635 posts)

12. I wish they'd now start making a big push to get a Congress which supports adding jobs.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:03 PM

polichick (30,375 posts)

26. Me too!

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:25 PM

Star Member kestrel91316 (45,383 posts)

19. Sweet.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:51 PM

JoePhilly (15,979 posts)

23. But everyone is already locked in ...

That's how the media explained Mitt's non-bump

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:01 PM

Dawson Leery (8,352 posts)

25. These are just the early polls.

Obama's lead my grow by next week.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:27 PM

Star Member WI_DEM (32,522 posts)

27. It's still too early to say what the jobs numbers will mean, if anything

A tracking poll is over several days this could be most of Wed or Thursday and very little of Friday.

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Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:04 AM

bucolic_frolic (708 posts)

28. Banana Republicans and Tea Party Economics

Americans are beginning to realize the Party of Debt is mostly the GOP.

Now the GOP offers the solution to the Debt: Tea Party Austerity, more tax cuts, more military spending.

Their message to taxpayers: we spent your money. We gave it to Millionaires and Billionaires for tax cuts.

We spent it in Iraq. Do you feel the low prices at the pump?

Now we're going to pay off the debt by cutting everyone's benefits.

We're going to cut Food Stamps, Education, Student Loans, Welfare, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security.

You don't need those, do you?

But you'll enjoy it because we'll put guns in your home, and surveillance in your bedroom. Don't you feel safe?

And we'll drill for gas in your neighborhood. Does your water taste good? Breathing easier?

This sure is a winning formula for America, don't you think?

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:44 PM

toddwv (2,054 posts)

29. Just wait until the debates.

Romney is only close now because America doesn't really know him.

He'll have a harder time hiding behind his multifaceted approach to political pandering. You can be that President Obama will force him to nail down his view.

Romney will finally be forced, on national TV before a large audience, to justify his views.

It's not going to be pretty.

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