Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:19 PM

Judi Lynn (77,578 posts)

Bolivian President Evo Morales denounces US for refusing to extradite former leader

Source: Associated Press

Bolivian President Evo Morales denounces US for refusing to extradite former leader
By The Associated Press September 7, 2012 2:01 PM

LA PAZ, Bolivia - Bolivian President Evo Morales says he has received word that Washington will not extradite a former leader wanted in connection with the deaths of 63 protesters in his home country in 2003.

Morales says American officials communicated their decision not to turn over ex-President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada in a letter. He denounced the ruling in a speech Friday at a military ceremony. He said the United States was becoming a "refuge for criminals."

American officials have not made any decision in the case publicly.

Sanchez de Lozada is wanted by Bolivia's Supreme Court in connection with the deaths of protesters during an army crackdown on riots in October 2003. He was forced to resign in the face of the protests and a political crisis they sparked.

Read more: http://www.canada.com/news/Bolivian+President+Morales+denounces+refusing+extradite+former/7207417/story.html

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9 replies	Author	Time	Post
Bolivian President Evo Morales denounces US for refusing to extradite former leader (Original post)	Judi Lynn	Sep 2012	OP
This guy is worse than a rapist & he gets off scot free?????	kooljerk666	Sep 2012	#1
Why would they hand over a genocidal maniac? He was most likely one of our allies	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#2
He is one of the 'Boys.'	formercia	Sep 2012	#3
Really? It's doubtful Howard Zinn would lay all that fault at Obama's feet.	proverbialwisdom	Sep 2012	#5
Then Howard Zinn and I would be in total agreement since I did the exact opposite of	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#6
Not surprising	rachel1	Sep 2012	#4
Today: DemocracyNow! With Amy Goodman & Juan González	proverbialwisdom	Sep 2012	#7
Completely contrary to the ideals were were taught came first in our country.Thanks for the link.n/t	Judi Lynn	Sep 2012	#9
K&R	Solly Mack	Sep 2012	#8

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:31 PM

kooljerk666 (776 posts)

1. This guy is worse than a rapist & he gets off scot free?????

Umm, this guy is a real criminal & deserves a firing squad.

Bradley Manning & Julian Assange both did a public service & are facing jail for a long time????

This is the kind of crap that makes me angry at Obama.

He ought to knock it off, leave Assange & Manning alone & stop killing the wrong people with drones.

Don't start crying, I live in PA & with be pulling the straight "D" lever, and I am a volunteer for Manan Trivedi-D for the 6th Cong. District in PA, hopefully putting the POS Jim Gerlach into the unemployment line.

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Fri Sep 7, 2012, 05:55 PM

sabrina 1 (34,048 posts)

2. Why would they hand over a genocidal maniac? He was most likely one of our allies

like Pinochet and Karamov and a whole list of other murderous dictators.

THAT is what has to change before any president of the US can reclaim any moral authority when it comes to human rights abuses anywhere else.

Our foreign policy is so insanely wrong. I doubt anyone could get anywhere close to the WH at this point if they even hinted that they want to change these policies and start supporting actual democracies, which we never seem to do, and start prosecuting war criminals.

And that won't happen so long as Democrats at least, keep turning a blind eye towards the atrocious history, not even history, we still support dictators, that has led to so much suffering in the world.

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Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:53 PM

formercia (18,143 posts)

3. He is one of the 'Boys.'

He knows too much, is too well connected and surely has allies here who will protect him at all costs.

These guys are all part of the same big international 'Club' As the Prophet Carlin said: "It's a Big Club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the Big Club."

I've seen a little bit about how these people are 'cultivated' from the time they are junior Officers, recruited, co-opted and made to do the bidding of those who really own and run this Planet.

Nothing has really changed in the last few Centuries. Perhaps superficially, but the way things are done, populations controlled and the resources (Things of value) of this Planet are doled out among the 'Powers that Be' and their minions who do the dirty work.

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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 02:10 PM

proverbialwisdom (1,573 posts)

5. Really? It's doubtful Howard Zinn would lay all that fault at Obama's feet.

I doubt anyone could get anywhere close to the WH at this point if they even hinted that they want to change these policies and start supporting actual democracies...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/searchresults.html?q=oscar+romero+obama&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&sa=Search&domains=democraticunderground.com&client=pub-7805397860504090&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en
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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 02:48 PM

sabrina 1 (34,048 posts)

6. Then Howard Zinn and I would be in total agreement since I did the exact opposite of

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laying all the blame at 'Obama's feet'. I'd have to go back to read my comment, but I don't believe I even mentioned Obama since that would not have been relevant to my point at all. Seems you completely misinterpreted my point, which is, US Foreign policy over the past several decades involves supporting Dictators and helping coups against Democratically elected leaders and anyone who aspires to become president will not get even close to the WH if they show signs of maybe trying to change those policies.

If you disagree with this theory, then show me someone who got close or made it to the WH who did not overtly (Republicans) or covertly (Democrats) support the propping up of Dictators. Show me on President of the US over the past several decades who has spoken out strongly against these policies. And show me candidates who did and made it to the WH.

Given that these are still US policies, it is conceivable that someone who wants to do good for the country in other areas, understands that to get there, they have to either go along with these policies, or look the other way while trying to do good in other areas. Iow, I don't think any president alone can change these policies.

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Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:27 PM

rachel1 (538 posts)

4. Not surprising

and the State Department has the audacity to criticize other countries's governments for alleged abuses of human rights and freedoms.

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Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:54 PM

proverbialwisdom (1,573 posts)

7. Today: DemocracyNow! With Amy Goodman & Juan González

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/10/headlines#9106

Headlines September 10, 2012

U.S. Refuses to Extradite de Lozada, Backs Immunity for Ex-Mexican President

The Obama administration is drawing controversy for siding with two former Latin American leaders in unrelated cases involving the massacres of civilians. The White House has informed Bolivia that it will not extradite former President Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada to face charges over the mass killing of Bolivian protesters in 2003. At least 64 civilians were slain and more than 400 were wounded when the Bolivian military cracked down on protests that sparked an uprising against de Lozada’s government. De Lozada has been indicted in Bolivia but has not been tried because he has been living safely in exile in the United States ever since. On Friday, Bolivian President Evo Morales said the Obama administration had rejected Bolivia’s extradition request on the grounds a civilian leader cannot be tried for a military’s crimes. Morales blasted the decision, calling the United States a "paradise of impunity."

Bolivian President Evo Morales: "The U.S. can’t send a letter saying civil society can’t be responsible for military actions. I reject these claims. I do not agree. This is a pretext for the U.S. to turn into a haven for delinquents, a paradise of impunity. It is easy for us to see that a country that has never respected the dignity and sovereignty of Latin America can’t extradite someone who’s done so much harm to the Bolivian people and works for the American empire."

In a separate move, the U.S. government has filed a court briefing declaring former Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo enjoys immunity from a Connecticut civil suit for alleged war crimes. The suit accuses Zedillo of responsibility for a 1997 massacre in the Chiapas village of Acteal when government-backed paramilitary groups killed 45 people as part of an attempt to quash the Zapatista popular uprising. Zedillo now lives in Connecticut and teaches at Yale University. Lawyers for the plaintiffs say they will be forced to drop the case as a result of Zedillo’s immunity.

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Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:32 AM

Judi Lynn (77,578 posts)

9. Completely contrary to the ideals were were taught came first in our country.Thanks for the link.n/t

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Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:50 AM

Solly Mack (49,486 posts)

8. K&R

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