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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:59 AM Sep 2012

Canada closes Iran embassy, to expel remaining Iranian diplomats

Source: Reuters

Canada has closed its embassy in Iran and will expel all remaining Iranian diplomats in Canada within five days, Foreign Minister John Baird said on Friday.

Baird said in a statement that the Iranian government was "the most significant threat to global peace and security in the world today." He cited Iran's nuclear program and Iranian military assistance to Syria.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/07/us-canada-iran-idUSBRE8860QC20120907

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Canada closes Iran embassy, to expel remaining Iranian diplomats (Original Post) Bosonic Sep 2012 OP
That's posturing dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #1
Israeli attack on Iran is imminent. Arrowhead2k1 Sep 2012 #2
not a chance. cali Sep 2012 #12
I really don't think they will listen to what the US has to say Missycim Sep 2012 #21
did you even read the article? cali Sep 2012 #22
Not in situations like this they don't Missycim Sep 2012 #23
Closed because they are a threat to global peace.... jerseyjack Sep 2012 #3
We don't have an embassy in Tehran. earthside Sep 2012 #4
Funny, I read the same thing on a right wing site OnlinePoker Sep 2012 #5
I was thinking the same LiberalLovinLug Sep 2012 #10
No but there is a "United States Interests" section in the Swiss Embassy in Tehran. iandhr Sep 2012 #6
Did they close the Russian embassy also? n2doc Sep 2012 #7
Considering Harper's still fighting the Cold War I'm surprised he hasn't. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #8
It's a much different Canada now... JohnnyChill Sep 2012 #9
Joe Who is now Steve Who. The newest new poodle! CHIMO Sep 2012 #11
Sent packing: Canada closes Iranian embassy, suspends diplomatic ties CHIMO Sep 2012 #13
Burman: What has prompted Canada’s move against Iran? CHIMO Sep 2012 #14
Pointless and antagonizing rachel1 Sep 2012 #15
Iran is violating treaties that it CHOSE to sign. Socal31 Sep 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #18
Violating according to who? Ash_F Sep 2012 #19
As someone on DU has written in the past cpwm17 Sep 2012 #27
"Pointless and antagonizing" is really the perfect way to sum that up Posteritatis Sep 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #17
This is Bullshit Hab Habit Sep 2012 #20
Canada has neocons? nt SylviaD Sep 2012 #24
We've had them as long as the US has had them. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #25

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
1. That's posturing
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:11 AM
Sep 2012

because they will simply use somebody else's embassy to communicate same way as the US does through the Interests Section of the Embassy of Switzerland in Havana for example.

 

Missycim

(950 posts)
21. I really don't think they will listen to what the US has to say
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:07 AM
Sep 2012

on the matter, when have they ever?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. did you even read the article?
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:45 AM
Sep 2012

and yes, Israel, by dint of circumstance, listens to the U.S.

 

Missycim

(950 posts)
23. Not in situations like this they don't
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:19 PM
Sep 2012

this isn't a pack of terrorists lobbing missiles into Israel, people don't seem to understand they will not allow 6 million more of their people to die again in another holocaust. I don't know what you think or believe but if you believe Iran is just building reactors for peaceful purposes I think you are very much mistaken. I don't want the US to fight this war but I don't have a problem letting the Israeli's handle it.

With the way the PM of Israel and President Obama get along, I wouldn't put it past Benji to start the attack before the election to force Obama to pick a side.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
4. We don't have an embassy in Tehran.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:06 AM
Sep 2012

Haven't since the hostage crisis.

This is not a good development.

I still think that Rmoney and his old pal Netanyahu cooked-up an 'October Surprise' when Mitt was there .... probably the Israeli attack on Iran or some kind of provocative gesture towards Iran.

If the situation gets very hot, just the increase in oil and gasoline prices will hurt Obama's chances.

OnlinePoker

(5,716 posts)
5. Funny, I read the same thing on a right wing site
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:13 AM
Sep 2012

Only it was Obama and Netanyahu cooking up an October Surprise. It will be very difficult for Israel to attack Iran without U.S. assistance. There's a lot of hostile airspace between the two countries.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
10. I was thinking the same
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 03:57 PM
Sep 2012

If Netanyahu attacked Iran it would force Obama to make a hard decision. And either one would work against him. I can absolutely see that happening. Its in the Israel's leader's interest to have another war hawk Republican in the Whitehouse.

If he supported the attack, either just vocally or militarily, he comes off as going against what he said earlier about not wanting to attack Iran. Also it would alienate a huge part of his base and fracture the party with inside bickering just on the final stretch.

If he rejects and criticizes the attack and refuses to support it, that will be used as a club against him by the GOP, that Obama hates Israel and won't help protect them and wants to shield Iran and its Muslim extremists. Twisting it to mean that Obama is weak on terror and afraid to tackle the radical Islamist threat...and he and his pals Castro and Chavez are cheering on the terrorists.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
7. Did they close the Russian embassy also?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:29 AM
Sep 2012

They are doing the same. Except they actually have a lot of working nukes.

JohnnyChill

(32 posts)
9. It's a much different Canada now...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:06 PM
Sep 2012

Keep in mind, Canada now has a hard right government. In his mind, Harper thinks Canada is a military super power. He's cut from the same cloth as the neocons in the U.S.

CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
11. Joe Who is now Steve Who. The newest new poodle!
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:19 PM
Sep 2012

Canada's man in Tehran was a CIA spy

Ken Taylor, the Canadian diplomat celebrated 30 years ago for hiding U.S. embassy personnel during the Iranian revolution, actively spied for the Americans and helped them plan an armed incursion into the country.

Mr. Taylor, ambassador in Iran from 1977 to 1980, became "the de facto CIA station chief" in Tehran after the U.S. embassy was seized by students on Nov. 4, 1979, and 63 Americans, including the four-member Central Intelligence Agency contingent, were taken hostage.

Had his espionage been discovered, Mr. Taylor told The Globe and Mail in an interview this week, "the Iranians wouldn't have tolerated it. And the consequences may have been severe."

His intelligence-gathering activities were kept secret by agreement between the Canadian and the U.S. governments, although his role in sheltering six Americans and helping to spirit them out of Iran was later made public, winning him and the Canadian government widespread U.S. gratitude.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/canadas-man-in-tehran-was-a-cia-spy/article4311038/

CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
13. Sent packing: Canada closes Iranian embassy, suspends diplomatic ties
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:03 PM
Sep 2012

This statement by the Canadian FM was made during the APEC Summit currently underway in Vladivostok. And political analyst and the director of the Center for Research on Globalization Michel Chossudovsky told RT that it's no coinicidence such a platform was chosen for announcing the move – which, Chossudovsky believes, wasn't really made by Canada at all.

"This decision wasn’t taken in Ottawa, it was taken in Washington," Chossudovsky told RT.

He added that this form of diplomatic pressure may be just the first step of many more to come.

"All acts of mediations and diplomacy and peace-building are being scrapped in favor of a possible military strike on Iran".
http://rt.com/news/canada-suspends-ties-iran-635/

CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
14. Burman: What has prompted Canada’s move against Iran?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:16 PM
Sep 2012

Although his swearing-in at Rideau Hall must have happened in the dead of night, Canada appears to have a new foreign minister. His name is Benjamin Netanyahu. His day job may be prime minister of Israel, but Canada’s abrupt actions against Iran seem to confirm that the Harper government’s outsourcing of Canada’s Middle East policy to Jerusalem is now complete.

There is little else to conclude from Canada’s unwise decision to move unilaterally on Iran at this moment. All sorts of crucial issues are in play with Iran. They involve the future of its nuclear program, the impatience of Israel’s leadership to attack Iran, the shape of a new Middle East as the heinous Syrian regime implodes and several delicate life-and-death issues involving Canadians on death row in Iran. Surprisingly, Western nations have held together on how to approach these key challenges — except, now, for Canada.

So why would Canada indulge in a meaningless poke in the eye that will only be dismissed by Tehran and serve to push the Canadian government even further to the extremes of diplomatic irrelevance?

For a clue, let’s flash back two weeks ago to Israel, where the debate over Iran has been at a fever pitch among politicians and in the media for months.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1253310--burman-what-has-prompted-canada-s-move-against-iran

rachel1

(538 posts)
15. Pointless and antagonizing
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

Why are other countries allowed to possess nuclear technology and not Iran?

I also doubt the claims about Iran's military assistance to Syria.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
16. Iran is violating treaties that it CHOSE to sign.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:36 AM
Sep 2012

I'm not sure anyone denies this.

Also, what are your reasons to doubt they are backing Assad? Syria is a proxy war between the regional enemies, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Response to Socal31 (Reply #16)

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
19. Violating according to who?
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:58 AM
Sep 2012

The IAEA, the only legal body capable of declaring parties to be in violation of the NPT, does not consider Iran to be doing so.

Here is their latest ruling, which expresses grievances regarding cooperation in affirmation, but declares no violation. On purpose.
http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2011/gov2011-69.pdf


In other statements, IAEA monitors further stated there is no evidence of illegal weaponization.

I am against Iran developing nuclear weapons(or anyone, for that matter) but the point is: The law matters, as does the truth
You can't go claiming a country has broken a treaty when it has not, and when you have no authority on the matter. It is especially dangerous when members of national leadership do likewise, without the legal authority. This can lead to unnecessary, illegal war.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
27. As someone on DU has written in the past
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 02:07 PM
Sep 2012

You can fool most Americans every time.

Iran is not in violation of any treaties - get that!

Iran is not an aggressive nation - that's us.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
26. "Pointless and antagonizing" is really the perfect way to sum that up
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:37 PM
Sep 2012

I don't doubt claims about Iranian military assistance to Syria at all, but that doesn't change the fact that Harper's stunt the other day was, well, pointless and antagonizing. It's so much theater.

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