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Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:19 AM

Obama says Romney called Russia our ‘No. 1 enemy’

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Source: politfact.com

His opponent, Obama said, is "new to foreign policy" and will drag the country back into old conflicts.

"After all, you don't call Russia our No. 1 enemy -- not Al-Qaida, Russia -- unless you're still stuck in a Cold War mind warp," Obama said, alluding to Republican rival Mitt Romney.

We wondered if Romney really did say that Russia is public enemy No. 1.


Read more: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/07/barack-obama/obama-says-romney-called-russia-our-no-1-enemy/



only a madman or a racist may call the Russian enemies of Americans .Hitler called all the Russian enemies of Germany only after the outbreak of war with Russia, and what will happen now? The Americans and the Russians will be killing each other?

remembering the "Canadian Bacon"
Old trick - to distract people's attention from the problems in the country artificially creating an image of an external enemy and encouraging militaristic hysteria in the country.

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Reply Obama says Romney called Russia our ‘No. 1 enemy’ (Original post)
Stake Sep 2012 OP
Gabby Hayes Sep 2012 #1
sakabatou Sep 2012 #2
dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #3
MADem Sep 2012 #4
Scootaloo Sep 2012 #8
AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #5
KG Sep 2012 #6
Stake Sep 2012 #7
Gabby Hayes Sep 2012 #9
Marrah_G Sep 2012 #10
olddad56 Sep 2012 #11
meow2u3 Sep 2012 #12
Turbineguy Sep 2012 #13
Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #14
karynnj Sep 2012 #15
Kolesar Sep 2012 #16
cyberswede Sep 2012 #17

Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:25 AM

1. Get a haircut, Mitt

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:30 AM

2. They're still stuck in the 80s.

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:33 AM

3. Putin seems to accept that he did in fact say that.

Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:37 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Putin: Russia can work with Romney if elected.

MOSCOW (AP) — President Vladimir Putin says Russia can work with Mitt Romney if he's elected U.S. president, even though Romney has called Russia the United States' "No. 1 geopolitical foe."

In an interview broadcast Thursday by the Kremlin-funded Russia Today TV channel, Putin spoke directly about the Republican challenger to President Barack Obama.

"We'll work with whichever president is elected by the American people. But our effort will be only as efficient as our partners will want it to be," Putin said.

Putin expressed concern about how a Romney presidency would affect the long-running dispute over U.S.-led NATO plans to place elements of a missile-defense system in Europe. Russia contends the system could undermine its own defenses.

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-russia-romney-elected-083645330.html

From yesterday : Putin Calls Missile Deal More Likely if Obama Wins http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014220856

Perhaps now its clear that assuming Obama wins then Putin would expect the shield to be scrapped and IMHO so it should be.

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:34 AM

4. MOSTLY true? Does not politifact realize that "foe" is a synomym for "enemy?"

Cheese on a frigging cracker, they might pick up a dictionary every so often...


foe/fō/
Noun:
An enemy or opponent.
Synonyms:
enemy - adversary - opponent - antagonist



It's not mostly true, it's entirely true. And the dumbfuck doubled down on it.

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Response to MADem (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:34 AM

8. Actually, "mostly true" fits

Look at those other synonyms of foe; adversary, antagonist, opponent. A "foe" is simply someone whom you oppose in something.

"Enemy" is a much stronger term, carrying connotations of actual strife, perhaps violence.

For instance, while you and I are disagreeing here, we could be called foes. But we're not each others' enemy. See the difference?

That said, Romney may not have said "enemy," but his phrasing and repeated statements makes it clear he sees Russia as something ot respond to with sabers and not rhetoric. "enemy" was meant, but he managed to, for once, not mouth-fumble, and avoided comitting to the harsher term directly.

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:44 AM

5. Russia may be kinda fucked up but they're FAR from our worst enemy, these days.

Yep, Romney definitely went way out on left field with that one.
Hell, even China wouldn't be willing to start WW3 or anything, I don't think. North Korea or Iran, on the other hand? Be afraid, be very afraid, of those two.

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 05:21 AM

6. niether want to admit the truth, the real enemy is wall street.

wall street is the enemy of the world...

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 05:48 AM

7. Nazi racial ideology


Untermensch (German for under man, sub-man, sub-human; plural: Untermenschen) is a term that became infamous when the Nazi racial ideology used it to describe "inferior people", especially "the masses from the East," that is Jews, Gypsies, and Slavic peoples including Poles, Serbs, Russians, Belarusians and partially the Ukrainians.

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:16 AM

9. Premier Khrushchev is calling on the red line, Mr. Romney

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:38 AM

10. Wait.... you mean Canada is not our enemy?

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:48 AM

11. I would say that the GOP is our nations #1 enemy.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:59 AM

12. Agreed!

America's worst enemy is not from without; it's from within, and it's known as the Teabag Taliban.

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:06 AM

13. In a way he's right.

The GOP is now the best friend of the former Soviet Union. Why should they work to bury us when we are willing to do it ourselves?

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:15 AM

14. He must be talking about back...

When he dodged the draft and went to Paris to minister to the "heathens" for the "Church"...

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:19 AM

15. How is quoting him word for word just "mostly true"?

Said Romney: "This is without question our No. 1 geopolitical foe

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:49 AM

16. Russia needlessly helped Iran with their nuclear fuel program

The Russian public thinks that the US runs all over them and that their own president is a wuss. So, Vladimir Putin stabs back at us with these "destabilizing" gestures just to keep himself in power at home.

Putin is not helping the Iranian *people* by doing this, either. He is helping their leaders to stay in power! The Iranians are pawns of the empire(s). It's complicated

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Response to Stake (Original post)

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:06 AM

17. Locking

This is an analysis piece, not LBN. Please consider posting in GD or Politics 2012. Thanks!

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