Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:04 PM
trailmonkee (2,595 posts)
Romney: No 'Bailouts' for Threatened Homeowners
Source: national journal
Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, pressed Wednesday for specifics on how he would help struggling homeowners, repeatedly brushed aside the suggestion that the federal government should take a more active role in helping people pay their mortgages and keep their homes. Romney told KLAS, a Las Vegas television station, that he planned to provide no “bailouts” for those facing the threat of foreclosure. Instead, he said, his broader plan is to “get the American economy going again with people having good jobs and more take-home pay so they can afford to buy homes.” “As long as you have unemployment as high as it is in , you’re going to have a hard time getting the home market to come back the way it needs to,” Romney said. While the economy is a top issue across America, the foreclosure crisis is particularly acute in Nevada; in some Las Vegas neighborhoods, more than eight in 10 homes are underwater. Romney drew some criticism last fall in Nevada for comments to a Las Vegas newspaper that the housing market needs to "hit the bottom." Read more: http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/romney-no-bailouts-for-threatened-homeowners-20120905
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| trailmonkee | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| mother earth | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| fasttense | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| AC_Mem | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| Angry Dragon | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| Drunken Irishman | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| nanabugg | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| magical thyme | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| nanabugg | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| magical thyme | Sep 2012 | #35 | |
| rockingirl | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| durablend | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| Fresh_Start | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| KansDem | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| shireen | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
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| davidn3600 | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| Rob H. | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| hunter | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:07 PM
mother earth (3,234 posts)
1. Yeah, the rich need all the breaks...not the rest of us.
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Response to mother earth (Reply #1)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 07:14 AM
fasttense (14,425 posts)
20. Is it possible that Romney doesn't know that TARP includes help for struggling homeowners?
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In addition to big give aways to banksters and thieving Wall Street firms, TARP actually included money and programs to help struggling homeowners. The help to homeowners had to be included to get some Democrats to vote for it. But the bushes never implemented it and Timmy Giethner doesn't want to do it either. But it's there, in Tarp, fully funded and waiting for Timmy to ge off his lazy a**.
So I guess Mitt wont implement the fully funded programs either, even though Congress approved it. |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:11 PM
AC_Mem (1,305 posts)
2. What a heartless SOB
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How can the republican mind be so different from the mind of a Democrat? It is almost literally good vs evil. I'm 54 years old and I've never seen anything like this in my entire life.
V O T E Shine on, Annette |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:14 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
3. How does he feel about bailing out businesses??
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I would think he would feel the same ........... except he IS IN FAVOR of bailing out the job creators
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:18 PM
Drunken Irishman (24,587 posts)
4. Sadly, a lot of Americans don't care about bailing 'em out either...
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I see it all the time. They believe that you're ultimately responsible for putting yourself in the position of losing your home. I've told my story on DU before and I'm sure there are millions like it. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't care.
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #4)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:45 PM
nanabugg (2,198 posts)
10. And they think that most facing foreclosure are "undeserving" anyway. Nevermind the scams
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used by the banksters and the scheming mortgage lenders. nt
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #4)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:59 PM
magical thyme (4,037 posts)
30. and it still hasn't dawned on them that when the home next door goes in foreclosure
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their own home value plummets. Then if they have a major illness or job loss, they can't sell and they go down too.
I put my life savings into my home instead of wall street, so I own it out right. But I have enough sense to know that as long as my street has short sales and foreclosures, I can't sell my own at more than bankruptcy prices. I'd rather help people keep their homes and put a floor under this market any day of the week. As it is, the *only* calls I've gotten on my house this summer has been real estate investors. The one realtor I considered listing with this spring immediately started talking bankrupcty price. It took quite a bit of patience before he finally admitted my house is worth double the price he was talking. Too late for him, he had pissed me off with his transparent attempt at getting a deal for his investor friends, so I didn't sign with him. |
Response to magical thyme (Reply #30)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:48 PM
nanabugg (2,198 posts)
34. "home next door..?" Romney and people like him don't have homes next to them..
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they all live in gated communities.
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Response to nanabugg (Reply #34)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:58 PM
magical thyme (4,037 posts)
35. my reply was about "a lot of Americans" in post above
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not the 1%.
Mittens and his gated community ilk are not "a lot of Americans." |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:22 PM
rockingirl (39 posts)
5. job creation?
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what job creators are we talking about?
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Response to rockingirl (Reply #5)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 08:52 AM
durablend (2,927 posts)
23. The ones in China and India
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You didn't think Mittens was talking about putting people to work HERE, did you?
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:24 PM
Fresh_Start (7,321 posts)
6. next time Romney makes this type of statement, someone ought to ask him
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how much money do rich americans need to stash in overseas tax avoiidance schemes before the employment market improves in the USA
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:27 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,460 posts)
7. What is he going to do? Start a couple companies
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and hire and keep the companies alive for a few years and then fire everyone.
Or will he get some of his cronies to start some companies and hire at minimum wage or below....? Or will he build debtor's prisons and his cronies run them? Or will he start a few wars and get those young people into the military and sacrifice themselves for his profit? |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:33 PM
KansDem (24,316 posts)
8. Wasn't this the premise for "Trickle Down" and the Bush tax cuts?
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...get the American economy going again with people having good jobs and more take-home pay so they can afford to buy homes.
So the wealthy could "re-invest" their new-found swag in the American economy, creating "good jobs" with "more take-home pay" so Americans could afford, among other necessities and luxuries, "to buy homes?" It didn't work so STFU!!! I'm sooooo sick and tired of hearing this! |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:35 PM
shireen (7,461 posts)
9. but OK for wall street. nt
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:46 PM
Monk06 (5,604 posts)
11. Entire suburbs have fallen into rot and decay because of the forclosure crisis. I guess the Repugs
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don't mine if 40% of the US housing inventory becomes uninhabitable. It's going to take a generation to rebuild Detroit even assuming a return to economic growth. |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:48 PM
davidn3600 (1,247 posts)
12. Good luck with Florida, Mitt
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:50 PM
Rob H. (4,188 posts)
13. Romney hates all bailouts that aren't for Romney
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These reporters need to remind Romney of his hypocrisy whenever he says things like that by pointing out that he arranged a bailout for Bain Capital in 1990.
In fact, government documents on the bailout obtained by Rolling Stone show that the legend crafted by Romney is basically a lie. The federal records, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal that Romney's initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster – leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had "no value as a going concern." Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC – the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers – out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds.
With his selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate, Romney has made fiscal stewardship the centerpiece of his campaign. A banner at MittRomney.com declared, "We have a moral responsibility not to spend more than we take in." Romney also opposed the federal bailout for Detroit automakers, famously arguing that the industry should be forced into bankruptcy. Government bailouts, he insists, are "the wrong way to go." But the FDIC documents on the Bain deal – which were heavily redacted by the firm prior to release – show that as a wealthy businessman, Romney was willing to go to extremes to secure a federal bailout to serve his own interests. He had a lot at stake, both financially and politically. Had Bain & Company collapsed, insiders say, it would have dealt a grave setback to Bain Capital, where Romney went on to build a personal fortune valued at as much as $250 million. It would also have short-circuited his political career before it began, tagging Romney as a failed businessman unable to rescue his own firm. ...snip... The Romney campaign refused to respond to questions for this article; a spokeswoman said only that "Mitt Romney turned around Bain & Company by getting all parties to come to the table and make difficult decisions." But while taxpayers did not finance the bailout, the debt forgiven by the government was booked as a loss to the FDIC – and then recouped through higher insurance premiums from banks. And banks, of course, are notorious for finding ways to pass their costs along to customers, usually in the form of higher fees. The Romney campaign refused to respond to questions for this article; a spokeswoman said only that "Mitt Romney turned around Bain & Company by getting all parties to come to the table and make difficult decisions." But while taxpayers did not finance the bailout, the debt forgiven by the government was booked as a loss to the FDIC – and then recouped through higher insurance premiums from banks. And banks, of course, are notorious for finding ways to pass their costs along to customers, usually in the form of higher fees. Thanks to the nature of the market, in other words, the bailout negotiated by Romney ultimately wound up being paid by the American people. Emphases mine. |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:55 PM
hunter (16,076 posts)
14. Fuck you, wealthy man.
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They had a Revolution in France once.
You do not want one of those. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine FDR was a wealthy man too, but he understood the problem... |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:13 PM
DallasNE (2,932 posts)
15. Time To Move On From Talking Points
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And spell out how you would go about making the vision happen. I'm not big on pie-in-the-sky stuff. No waving of magic wands and shouting abra-cadabra as you are doing here. Before an economy can expand there needs to be increasing demand for goods and services before businsess will expand operations and hire people. Companies are already flush with cash and financially able to expand operations but with weak demand nothing will happen. Since Romney never mentions aggregate demand I have my doubts that he even understands how the economy works so how can we possibly trust him with guiding our economy through tough times. It can't be allowed to happen.
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