Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:44 PM

choie (1,179 posts)

Democrats change platform to add God, Jerusalem

Source: AP

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Democrats have changed their convention platform to add a mention of God and declare that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

The move came after criticism from Republicans.

Many in the audience booed after the convention chairman, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, ruled that the amendments had been approved despite the fact that a large group of delegates objected.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-change-platform-add-god-jerusalem-211928130--election.html

The last time I looked Tel Aviv was the capital of Israel...

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198 replies	Author	Time	Post
Democrats change platform to add God, Jerusalem (Original post)	choie	Sep 2012	OP
I hate that we blinked.	gateley	Sep 2012	#1
Its truly disheartening..	choie	Sep 2012	#2
I thought it was pretty ballsy in the first place, although politically not smart. But they	gateley	Sep 2012	#6
Ditto, ditto, ditto...	SoapBox	Sep 2012	#9
I think this move is to show respect to the Religious Left	meow2u3	Sep 2012	#23
religion has NO PLACE in politics.	alarimer	Sep 2012	#78
unfortunatley this is a pipedream peoples religious beliefs colours their votes. whether you like it	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#81
We're the party of inclusion.	Chan790	Sep 2012	#84
well, some of us on the religious left	newspeak	Sep 2012	#151
The Republicans are "better" at it but ...	Old Union Guy	Sep 2012	#184
I think that someone figured out the main attack that will be used against Democrats this year...	PassingFair	Sep 2012	#192
I guess that would depend on what side of the issue you happen to be on.nt	humblebum	Sep 2012	#161
Doing the right thing is not blinking	Freddie Stubbs	Sep 2012	#130
Emphasis on RIGHT ...	GeorgeGist	Sep 2012	#134
Endorsing the Likudnik, anti-peace position on Jerusalem	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#173
Not Good	humbled_opinion	Sep 2012	#3
Agree...	Philomena	Sep 2012	#32
Necessary if GOP keeps insisting Obama is Muslim.	McCamy Taylor	Sep 2012	#4
The Jerusalem thing is necessary?	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#8
I guess there is some nutjob perspective that says its necessary	bhikkhu	Sep 2012	#63
the jerusalem "thing" is dangerous	newspeak	Sep 2012	#153
Counterproductive	oldsarge54	Sep 2012	#194
WTF???	Did I Just Type This	Sep 2012	#5
It's up the Irsaelis, not the Dems or Reps. Israel says that it's Jerusalem.	24601	Sep 2012	#72
Ugh.	CrispyQ	Sep 2012	#7
To quote Gov. Patrick, "Grow a backbone."	Faygo Kid	Sep 2012	#10
They did. They stood up to platform committee	Freddie Stubbs	Sep 2012	#131
yet another reason that the dems don't represent me any longer....	mike_c	Sep 2012	#11
Agree. The majority of Dems are part of the problem on many, if not most, issues.	byeya	Sep 2012	#21
I'm also an atheist and I support the Palestinians.	cpwm17	Sep 2012	#35
There are lots of Palestinians who would, umm, not think highly of your atheism.	Psephos	Sep 2012	#88
And lots of Israelis and lots of Americans. What's yr point? n/t	Violet_Crumble	Sep 2012	#94
Your strawman-fu is weak, young Jedi.	Psephos	Sep 2012	#105
Me neither.	alarimer	Sep 2012	#80
The Dems did not vote to pass it.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#110
Shameful pandering to the fundie RW, who will NEVER vote for Dems anyway.	kestrel91316	Sep 2012	#12
Disgusting	Politicalboi	Sep 2012	#13
This is bad...	jimlup	Sep 2012	#14
I KNOW! Isn't all the caving on health care, jobs bills, etc. bad enough?	alp227	Sep 2012	#15
You probably won't be pleased to know that	truedelphi	Sep 2012	#33
So the 12th Commandment really is "Thou shalt not speak ill of Israel"	alp227	Sep 2012	#36
Well, I am not speaking ill of Israel - I am speaking ill of the fact that far	truedelphi	Sep 2012	#43
you know a lot of those "jewish people" you talk about are US Citizens who do vote and fundraise	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#59
What is morally right isn't a matter of "politics"	jimlup	Sep 2012	#77
well its pretty much up to the israelis if they want it as their capital which it has been for 60 yr	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#79
Do you know that East Jerusalem is occupied territory and not part of Israel?	Violet_Crumble	Sep 2012	#96
I wouldn't be upset if it passed for real but they totally passed it without the 2/3rd majority.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#113
They might as well change their symbol while they're at it	KamaAina	Sep 2012	#16
What? are we pro-life too????	Redford	Sep 2012	#17
Gah, cowardess	sakabatou	Sep 2012	#18
Typical. Republicans complain, Dems roll over.	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#19
I guess that backbone Deval spoke of is made of cooked spaghetti. nt	valerief	Sep 2012	#25
Apparently so. This strikes me as extremely irresponsible. nt	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#29
It's a good start on peace prevention.	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#20
Um, they're doing this crap to please the Republicans?????	valerief	Sep 2012	#22
Cavers and Cowards	harun	Sep 2012	#24
Swear to Gawd, The Dems	otohara	Sep 2012	#26
Thank you sir, may I have another?	Stryder	Sep 2012	#27
Oh give me a damn break.	eqfan592	Sep 2012	#28
i guess God didn't	truedelphi	Sep 2012	#48
Damn	Solly Mack	Sep 2012	#30
I wonder if this bullshit faux outrage would have snowballed	Blue_Tires	Sep 2012	#31
New member here...	OkieLib41	Sep 2012	#34
I agree totally. WELCOME TO DU!!!!	alp227	Sep 2012	#37
Hey there - welcome to DU.	truedelphi	Sep 2012	#44
My First Post TOO !!	RanWiz	Sep 2012	#198
AP source: Obama personally intervened to change Democrat platform language on Jerusalem, God	Tx4obama	Sep 2012	#38
Twitter?	Nihil	Sep 2012	#133
"Democrat" is a noun, "Democratic" is an adjective	Kolesar	Sep 2012	#186
Example of a more Center Right Dem Party	YOHABLO	Sep 2012	#39
This thread needs recs to get it to the top.	CrispyQ	Sep 2012	#40
DNC 2012: Platform amendments over God, Jerusalem draw delegates' boos	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#92
Unfortunate.	Scuba	Sep 2012	#41
Just listened on the radio to the voice vote on the god issue	Angry Dragon	Sep 2012	#42
I don't know if I should laugh or cry.	truedelphi	Sep 2012	#46
I heard majority NAYS as well.	Redford	Sep 2012	#49
Found video this on youtube, supposedly it's that vote...	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#56
Pure political cronyism. Ignoring the desires of the delegates.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#112
it's a clusterfuck.	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#145
Right.	progressoid	Sep 2012	#82
We need to make this go viral so they fix their clear error.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#111
Too late	Angry Dragon	Sep 2012	#122
Stupid, Spineless Move....	liberallibral	Sep 2012	#45
sadly recc'ing	Kali	Sep 2012	#47
In the end it's all just noise.	Sky Masterson	Sep 2012	#50
OMG	mikki35	Sep 2012	#51
Just when I thought Dems had grown a spine. What a farce! I don't care what the capital	LoisB	Sep 2012	#52
I guess the backbone speech didn't include specifications.	Great Caesars Ghost	Sep 2012	#87
Kick! n/t	revolution breeze	Sep 2012	#53
Stupid... and badly mismanaged.	FBaggins	Sep 2012	#54
here is what happened	DonCoquixote	Sep 2012	#55
I'm with you, not all jews are zionists	newspeak	Sep 2012	#149
"The last time I looked Tel Aviv was the capital of Israel..."	former9thward	Sep 2012	#57
I think it was 1950 that Jerusalem became the capital, i may be wrong but it always has been	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#60
No, other countries do not say Tel Aviv is the capital.	former9thward	Sep 2012	#71
in the end jerusalem is the capital then.	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#75
No, it's not n/t	Violet_Crumble	Sep 2012	#93
well if the israelis say its their capital then it pretty much is unless you believe that people	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#101
No, they can't make something that's not part of Israel their capital...	Violet_Crumble	Sep 2012	#103
Israel is free to have Jerusalem as their national capital, at this point.	Selatius	Sep 2012	#132
That's a decent summary in very terse prose	Kolesar	Sep 2012	#187
So is it your contention	eyl	Sep 2012	#141
I believe Jerusalem is not	choie	Sep 2012	#67
In what world do you live in that a country can't desinate what its capital is???	former9thward	Sep 2012	#73
That'd be the world that believes in international law. East Jerusalem is occupied...	Violet_Crumble	Sep 2012	#99
Why do you post on DU?	former9thward	Sep 2012	#154
and how many countries have their embassies in Jerusalem? Is the US embassy in Jerusalem?	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#104
Where countries have their embassy does not determine what their capital is.	former9thward	Sep 2012	#155
why does no country have its embassy in Jerusalem? you avoided an answer by providing a strawman	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#156
Jerusalem was a spoil of war.	former9thward	Sep 2012	#159
first off both Clinton and Obama have deferred the the Jerusalem embassy act which apparently you	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#166
You can pretend this is a GOP thing but reality must intrude.	former9thward	Sep 2012	#168
Reality Clinton deferred it as did Obama	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#169
Fine, I'm sure you will link to Clinton, Bush, Obama giving that as the reason.	former9thward	Sep 2012	#170
you seem confused	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#171
Your post:	former9thward	Sep 2012	#172
okay	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#175
You're missing one thing	eyl	Sep 2012	#165
so because Israel moved its government to East Jerusalem that makes it official	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#167
There are no government offices	eyl	Sep 2012	#180
Instead of putting God in	davidpdx	Sep 2012	#58
There was already a huge section on supporting "Faith" in general.	LAGC	Sep 2012	#135
I personally am dismayed by this cowardly capitulation to RW zealots of both parties.	BlueMTexpat	Sep 2012	#61
Nooooo! Don't flip on this...too late!	tonekat	Sep 2012	#62
This is not good	Scairp	Sep 2012	#64
I was watching when the vote was taken.	yellerpup	Sep 2012	#65
Who TF cares?	Gman	Sep 2012	#66
This message was self-deleted by its author	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#70
like the God part....	trailmonkee	Sep 2012	#68
Not according to the Israelis. nt	hack89	Sep 2012	#69
Seriously? This is what the screaming is all about?	DURHAM D	Sep 2012	#74
Political posturing at its worst.	alarimer	Sep 2012	#76
As an Independent this is why I vote candidate	Cynicus Emeritus	Sep 2012	#86
Good! God and Jerusalem should have been in there.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#83
Why does that Jerusalem thing belong in there?	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#90
Because Jerusalem in the capital of Israel. They need to know we support our friends.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#102
Don't really care about the Jerusalem thing, but why should any God be mentioned?	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#107
Good luck with that. The secular party is not going to be the Dem party.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#108
So not only non-Secular, but sectarian as well?	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#116
Of course non-Christians are welcome!	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#118
wait, what?	pewpface	Sep 2012	#121
: )	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#137
That fails to describe a Christian foundation...	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#123
Most Democrats are Christian and that informs their outlook.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#136
Most of them are straight, and white too	dmallind	Sep 2012	#139
This!!!!! Wish I could rec your reply. n/t	SomeGuyInEagan	Sep 2012	#157
I don't get your point. What's wrong with being white?	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#176
Nothing, just telling you how helpful describing someone by behaviorially non-descriptive terms is.	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#179
No, I don't get. Would you please please please explain?	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#181
Ok, let me elaborate, you call someone a Christian, all that means to me is that this is someone...	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#182
Really? You need to meet more Christians.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#183
Jesus was, at best, a mixed bag...	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#188
Yes, Jesus is hard to follow.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#189
I wouldn't say he was hard to follow.	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#190
Luckily he founded a church through Peter to help us know.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#191
LOL.	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#193
Yes, I am. And you laughing at my beliefs is intolerant.	Pterodactyl	Sep 2012	#195
Actually I'm laughing at your statement, which, given the sheer number of denominations that...	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#196
Again, not a description, please elaborate. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2012	#160
Required a 2/3's vote. The NOs had it. The Chair, Villaraigosa, bold face lied after THREE votes.	w4rma	Sep 2012	#85
I felt bad for him having to do that.	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#89
Did you hear that women just tell him "do it" or something like that?	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#114
She said....	defacto7	Sep 2012	#124
You are absolutely correct.	Psephos	Sep 2012	#91
That's total bullshit. They need to fix that shit.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#109
Difficult to complain about election fraud when the DNC cares nothing about actual vote counts.	hugo_from_TN	Sep 2012	#152
Wow, way to ignore the vote. Fucking lying POS Villarigosa.	SomeGuyInEagan	Sep 2012	#158
WTF?!? Jerusalem is NOT the capital of Israel.	U4ikLefty	Sep 2012	#95
Jerusalem	tova	Sep 2012	#138
No, it's racist to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel	cpwm17	Sep 2012	#140
Another "great" way ...	Nihil	Sep 2012	#143
Seriously	tova	Sep 2012	#163
It is all pretty silly, but I honestly think the worse thing to do at this point	Proles	Sep 2012	#97
Excuse me for coming in late, but...	Seeking Serenity	Sep 2012	#98
As an Angelino, I know Villaraigosa to be a two-faced POS.	U4ikLefty	Sep 2012	#100
Typical DEM capitulation:	blkmusclmachine	Sep 2012	#106
Precisely!	ozone_man	Sep 2012	#178
This is the dumbest thing the Democrats have ever done.	Alduin	Sep 2012	#115
I don't believe it quite rises to the level of the failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in 1962	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#144
I'll add my own boo: BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (nt)	harmonicon	Sep 2012	#117
Now I know why the entire house walked out on the invocation!	defacto7	Sep 2012	#119
doubly dishonest hypocrisy	pewpface	Sep 2012	#120
puke	Marrah_G	Sep 2012	#125
This is shameful.	David__77	Sep 2012	#126
They should have cleared it first.	RandiFan1290	Sep 2012	#127
LOL That would certainly be more efficient. I'm sure they will do that next time.	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#147
when I was a boy national conventions of both political parities were contentious events where fights	Douglas Carpenter	Sep 2012	#128
If Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel, why does the Knesset meet in Jerusalem?	Freddie Stubbs	Sep 2012	#129
Not internationally recognized.	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#146
Apparently it is now by Democrats	Freddie Stubbs	Sep 2012	#150
Where does the U.S. Supreme Court meet?	nolabels	Sep 2012	#148
I love a good pie fight!	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#142
Craven...	KansDem	Sep 2012	#162
who cares who cares...read the full article	Green_Lantern	Sep 2012	#164
Don't know if this how this will turn out for us	ripcord	Sep 2012	#174
Wonder why they did this?	lib2DaBone	Sep 2012	#177
Former Ohio Gov. Strickland introduced it and mentioned he was a Methodist minister	Kolesar	Sep 2012	#185
This is why I would not waste my time or money going to a national convention	dflprincess	Sep 2012	#197

Response to choie (Original post)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:46 PM

gateley (61,914 posts)

Democrats change platform to add God, Jerusalem

1. I hate that we blinked.

2. Its truly disheartening..

6. I thought it was pretty ballsy in the first place, although politically not smart. But they

9. Ditto, ditto, ditto...

23. I think this move is to show respect to the Religious Left

78. religion has NO PLACE in politics.

81. unfortunatley this is a pipedream peoples religious beliefs colours their votes. whether you like it

84. We're the party of inclusion.

151. well, some of us on the religious left

184. The Republicans are "better" at it but ...

192. I think that someone figured out the main attack that will be used against Democrats this year...

161. I guess that would depend on what side of the issue you happen to be on.nt

130. Doing the right thing is not blinking

134. Emphasis on RIGHT ...

173. Endorsing the Likudnik, anti-peace position on Jerusalem

3. Not Good

32. Agree...

4. Necessary if GOP keeps insisting Obama is Muslim.

8. The Jerusalem thing is necessary?

63. I guess there is some nutjob perspective that says its necessary

153. the jerusalem "thing" is dangerous

194. Counterproductive

5. WTF???

72. It's up the Irsaelis, not the Dems or Reps. Israel says that it's Jerusalem.

7. Ugh.

10. To quote Gov. Patrick, "Grow a backbone."

131. They did. They stood up to platform committee

11. yet another reason that the dems don't represent me any longer....

21. Agree. The majority of Dems are part of the problem on many, if not most, issues.

35. I'm also an atheist and I support the Palestinians.

88. There are lots of Palestinians who would, umm, not think highly of your atheism.

94. And lots of Israelis and lots of Americans. What's yr point? n/t

105. Your strawman-fu is weak, young Jedi.

80. Me neither.

110. The Dems did not vote to pass it.

12. Shameful pandering to the fundie RW, who will NEVER vote for Dems anyway.

13. Disgusting

14. This is bad...

15. I KNOW! Isn't all the caving on health care, jobs bills, etc. bad enough?

33. You probably won't be pleased to know that

36. So the 12th Commandment really is "Thou shalt not speak ill of Israel"

43. Well, I am not speaking ill of Israel - I am speaking ill of the fact that far

59. you know a lot of those "jewish people" you talk about are US Citizens who do vote and fundraise

77. What is morally right isn't a matter of "politics"

79. well its pretty much up to the israelis if they want it as their capital which it has been for 60 yr

96. Do you know that East Jerusalem is occupied territory and not part of Israel?

113. I wouldn't be upset if it passed for real but they totally passed it without the 2/3rd majority.

16. They might as well change their symbol while they're at it

17. What? are we pro-life too????

18. Gah, cowardess

19. Typical. Republicans complain, Dems roll over.

25. I guess that backbone Deval spoke of is made of cooked spaghetti. nt

29. Apparently so. This strikes me as extremely irresponsible. nt

20. It's a good start on peace prevention.

22. Um, they're doing this crap to please the Republicans?????

24. Cavers and Cowards

26. Swear to Gawd, The Dems

27. Thank you sir, may I have another?

28. Oh give me a damn break.

48. i guess God didn't

30. Damn

31. I wonder if this bullshit faux outrage would have snowballed

34. New member here...

37. I agree totally. WELCOME TO DU!!!!

44. Hey there - welcome to DU.

198. My First Post TOO !!

38. AP source: Obama personally intervened to change Democrat platform language on Jerusalem, God

133. Twitter?

186. "Democrat" is a noun, "Democratic" is an adjective

39. Example of a more Center Right Dem Party

40. This thread needs recs to get it to the top.

92. DNC 2012: Platform amendments over God, Jerusalem draw delegates' boos

41. Unfortunate.

42. Just listened on the radio to the voice vote on the god issue

46. I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

49. I heard majority NAYS as well.

56. Found video this on youtube, supposedly it's that vote...

112. Pure political cronyism. Ignoring the desires of the delegates.

145. it's a clusterfuck.