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Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:28 PM

Biden: Paul Ryan ‘Walked Away’ From Deficit Commission

Source: ABC NEWS - The Note


By Arlette Saenz

Sep 2, 2012 8:06pm
Biden: Paul Ryan ‘Walked Away’ From Deficit Commission


GREEN BAY, Wis. — Vice President Joe Biden launched a new attack on Rep. Paul Ryan in his home state of Wisconsin today, criticizing the Republican vice presidential candidate for not admitting in his convention speech that he was a member of the bipartisan deficit commission he railed against Wednesday evening.

“What he didn’t tell you is he sat on that commission,” Biden said at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay. “He sat on that commission, and were he and his house Republican friends that he leads, had they voted with the commission, it would have been voted on, but he voted no. He would not let it go to the floor. He walked away.”

During his convention speech Wednesday, Ryan criticized the way President Obama initiated and handled the commission, but the Wisconsin congressman failed to mention his own role on it.

“ created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing,” Ryan said in Tampa.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/biden-paul-ryan-walked-away-from-deficit-commission/



Right cross, by Biden

Nice.

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Ellipsis Sep 2012 OP
elleng Sep 2012 #1
iemitsu Sep 2012 #2
Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #22
iemitsu Sep 2012 #25
speedoo Sep 2012 #3
99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #4
Panasonic Sep 2012 #5
Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #6
elleng Sep 2012 #7
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2012 #8
wordpix Sep 2012 #12
reflection Sep 2012 #9
tblue37 Sep 2012 #28
reflection Sep 2012 #31
Jennicut Sep 2012 #33
chuckstevens Sep 2012 #10
wordpix Sep 2012 #13
SunSeeker Sep 2012 #15
iemitsu Sep 2012 #26
Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #11
wordpix Sep 2012 #14
Ellipsis Sep 2012 #16
proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #23
wordpix Sep 2012 #29
SoapBox Sep 2012 #17
LynneSin Sep 2012 #18
NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #34
hootinholler Sep 2012 #19
penndragon69 Sep 2012 #20
avebury Sep 2012 #21
tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #24
iemitsu Sep 2012 #27
tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #36
Thinkingabout Sep 2012 #30
hue Sep 2012 #32
Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #35
Ellipsis Sep 2012 #37

Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:32 PM

1. DAMN RIGHT he walked away.

BRAVO, Mr. Vice President!

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:33 PM

2. biden should bring this up.

and everyone else needs to call the republican team liars every chance we get.
when people realize they've been lied to by those who they consider allies they are likely to be pretty angry.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:40 AM

22. Willard and Ryan .......... 2 Great American liars and frauds

How is that??

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:33 PM

25. sounds great. now repeat it to everyone you meet from now until november.

and i will too.
while it is evidently ok for mormons to lie "to further the cause of the church" i'm not sure how ryan justifies his lack of honesty.
i guess spending one's whole adult life in congress, where none of your peers ever listen to a word you say, could sponsor the sense that one could say anything without being challenged.
i would die before allowing others to think i was a liar.
i guess integrity is more important when one has no money. with it others will pretend to respect you without it one needs to earn that respect.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:35 PM

3. Joe's going after that smart ass punk Ryan.

He's gonna go after him hard.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:37 PM

4. You go Joe!!!! Can't wait to see you shred Lyin' Ryan's sorry ass and hand it to him

during the debates.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:40 PM

5. Game.. set...

 

and not quite yet match....


Biden needs to link the entire Republican Congresspeople to the R&R campaign and tell the people that the Republicans are not there to help them.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:41 PM

6. Wisconsin now in play with Ryan on the ticket. Biden is bringing fight to them right there! Yes! nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:48 PM

7. and lets put ryan's seat in play, too!

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:58 PM

8. Lyin Ryan called out again.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:54 PM

12. Lyin Ryan has a nice ring

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:18 PM

9. Biden is on fire.

I love this guy. And I love that Republicans hate him.

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Response to reflection (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:59 PM

28. Biden is on fire--and so are Ryan's pants. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #28)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:48 PM

31. :D

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Response to reflection (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:14 PM

33. I second that!

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:24 PM

10. Total Fraud

Paul Ryan is a complete phony. Let' see:

1. He's no deficit hawk - He voted for all Bush tax cuts and both wars with no way to pay for any of it.
2. His is no Ayan Randian - She was an atheists who would have been pro-choice.
3. He's no true Catholic - Yes, he is Pro-Fetus, but Bishops and Nuns have proclaimed his budget immoral towards the poor.
4. He's no protector of Medicare - His budget guts the program with vouchers that won't pay for crap.

Can anyone add on?

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:56 PM

13. "he is pro-fetus"

great line

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:26 PM

15. He also voted for the unpaid-for Medicare Part D--a huge giveaway to Big Pharma.

What legitimate reason do Repukes have for pushing through Medicare Part D with the provision that Medicare can't bargain for better pharmaceutical prices from Big Pharma?! How is that being a "fiscal conservative"?!

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:36 PM

26. and he's full of shit.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:45 PM

11. Go get him, Joe!!!

Good - call Ryan out

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:10 PM

14. Joe needs to simplify/clarify what happened with Ryan on this commission

(and for the sheeple, don't use words like "bipartisan").

This part was confusing: "Had they voted with the commission, it would have been voted on, but he voted no. He would not let it go to the floor."

So what happened? Ryan and R friends didn't like the majority's recommendations, so they never got to the floor? Why not? Doesn't majority rule? I'm not sure what happened here.

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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:49 AM

23. RECOMMENDED far and wide.

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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:34 PM

29. after seeing the video, I was still confused. Wikipedia clarifies all:

re: Simpson-Bowles: A report was released on December 1, 2010, but failed a vote on December 3 with 11 of 18 votes in favor, with a supermajority of 14 votes needed to formally endorse the blueprint.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Commission_on_Fiscal_Responsibility_and_Reform

I still think Biden needs to clarify this message. Something like, "What Ryan didn't tell you is that he sat on the debt commission consisting of both Republicans and Democrats, but he voted against the commission's recommendations to decrease the national debt. (Give basics of the $3 in cuts: $1 in increased taxes for the rich). On this commission, there were 18 members with a supermajority of 14 needed to pass the recommendations to send them to the House floor. Ryan, however, voted against the recommendations and the 14 votes were not achieved. THAT's why there was no vote in the full House, and THAT's why the president could not act on the commission's recommendations."

It's a little longer, but clearer.

Dems should keep in mind:

1) not everyone has the vocab. of the president/veep so keep it simple.

2) Use short, clear sentences.

3) Don't jumble up the story to make it shorter ---it's confusing

4) Most people will not research what you're talking about if they don't understand it and therefore, a confusing story isn't worth telling.

And what the hell is with these supermajorities? You can't pass the Simpson Bowles commission with a straight majority. Same goes for the Senate.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:04 PM

17. Just wait until the debate!

Punch! Punch!

What's the matter, CoupnCare?

A little staggered by facts?!?

Go Joe!

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:25 PM

18. I cannot wait for the VP debate. Biden will make mincemeat of that gnat!

I felt bad, Biden held back 4 years ago because he didn't want to look like a bully against an opponent that was clearly unqualified to be in a debate with someone like Joe Biden.

Biden is an attack pit bull. He'll grab hold and hold tight until you scream 'uncle'. And if Ryan tries to pass off any of the lies he made up for his convention speech, Joe Biden will hold him accountable and make him pay for trying to fool the American people.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 06:23 PM

34. I agree: No mercy this time.

And Biden is an attack dog, but he does it with a smile and in such a way that his targets don't even realize how badly they've been hit.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:28 PM

19. Hey Lyin Ryan

Amtrak Joe will fuck your shit up.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 06:02 AM

20. General, Joe " THE HAMMER " Biden

will give little privileged Private Ryan a hellashious ass
beating in the debates.

Von Ryan will slink away into obscurity and end up as
co-host of Glen Becks DEAD AIR freak show.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:51 AM

21. K&R nt

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:55 AM

24. all these Republicans are going to find themselves walking BACK into the wilderness


After this election, which I think is going to end up being a landslide against Romney & Ryan, Republicans are going to have to regroup so badly, the term 'circular firing squad' won't even be the half of it. The Tea Party is going to try to set out on their own, the moderate Republicans are going to call themselves 'Independents' and/or switch to vote Democratic, and the rest of the remaining GOP is going to end up being a few screws short of a hardware store.

Folks like Ralph Reed, Grover Norquist and Karl Rove are going to be handed their hat by the folks that entrusted them with wheelbarrows full of cash but failed to deliver.

We are going to witness the complete apocalypse of THE apocalypse-party. Seeing Glenn Beck fall into a black hole was only the first act.

And we aren't going to need binoculars to see this one go down.




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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #24)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:46 PM

27. i love your predictions

and hope they all come true.
any "tough love policies" we adopt need to be directed at those who would harm us through lies and misrepresentation rather than at the poor (the victims of those lies and misrepresentations).
the righteousness we see promoted from the pulpit needs to be redirected from the poor and powerless toward the mendacious uber-class.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:10 PM

36. the fact that the GOP continues on the same path will up-end their party


this country needs to be taken, as you noted, to a place where it finally abides by a better sense of right and wrong, instead of trampling the poor, the out of power, the sick, the elderly and those in need

GREED is the cancer of the Republican Party and at some point it will devour it's own vital organs

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:40 PM

30. Ryan had to follow the republican platform, defeat Obama

When Obama put together the Bowles Simpson it needed 14 votes to pass and got 11 votes to go to Congress without amendments, Guess who was one of the 7 votes, Paul Ryan. Since learning his brother worked for Bain it wasn't hard to see why Ryan was picked for vp and probably knew this when he voted the repub platform against Bowles Simpson. Who walked away, Ryan before it had a chance to go to the dead beat Congress.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:54 PM

32. K&R Truth Out!!

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:38 PM

35. And yet now Ryan moans and groans and says he can't catch a break.

Oh, boodey-boo-hoo.
I feels so sorry for him.

Poor widdle Paul.
He'll cry for real on November 7th.

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Response to Ellipsis (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:14 AM

37. hah a perfect number recs... g'obama! (kick)

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