Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:28 PM

alp227 (20,997 posts)

Survivor of London 7/7 bombings faces expulsion from UK

Source: The Guardian

A survivor of the 7/7 London bombings whose bloodied face became one of the best known images of the day could face expulsion from the UK.

John Tulloch lost his British nationality under a clause governing people born in pre-independence India. Despite being raised and educated in the UK from the age of three and working and living in the country for most of his life, Tulloch's status as someone born to British parents in the former colony led to him losing his nationality when he took out Australian citizenship.

"I am totally gobsmacked by this," said Tulloch, who has been told that he can only visit Britain for brief periods as a tourist. "I've got a huge attachment to Britain. My family has served Britain for three generations. I've been banging my head against a wall trying to get this sorted out, but I've never before encountered so much frustration. It's like Kafka."

The army officer's son was granted a lesser form of British nationality known as "British subject without citizenship".

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/02/survivor-london-bombings-faces-explusion-uk

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12 replies	Author	Time	Post
Survivor of London 7/7 bombings faces expulsion from UK (Original post)	alp227	Sep 2012	OP
as someone with dual nationality i got no problem with what the UK did	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#1
of course rules must apply to all but	Swagman	Sep 2012	#2
they might have been rude but they applied the law as its written, cant fault them on that even if	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#3
He took out Australian citizenship	Smilo	Sep 2012	#4
Where did you read about him?	xocet	Sep 2012	#5
i think its in the text there that he was granted Australian citizenship	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#6
Thanks, but you should probably read that again. n/t	xocet	Sep 2012	#8
i did and below is what the text said, he took australian citizenship and lost his british.	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#9
I have multiple friends who have both UK and Australian citizenship.	harmonicon	Sep 2012	#7
i think the crux is that he was not a british citizen but a subject without citizenship	loli phabay	Sep 2012	#10
Indeed.	harmonicon	Sep 2012	#11
You claim that he voluntarily renounced his British citizenship....	xocet	Sep 2012	#12

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:16 PM

loli phabay (3,040 posts)

1. as someone with dual nationality i got no problem with what the UK did

if thats what the rules state then the rules must apply equally for all regardless. Though i thinkk its also a law that needs to be revised if the gist of what is written here is true.

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:29 PM

Swagman (1,697 posts)

2. of course rules must apply to all but

most likely he has encountered British immigration officers who can be amongst the rudest on the planet from my experience

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Response to Swagman (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:37 PM

loli phabay (3,040 posts)

3. they might have been rude but they applied the law as its written, cant fault them on that even if

you dont think its a good law.

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Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:57 PM

Smilo (1,894 posts)

4. He took out Australian citizenship

but still wants to be British - having your cake and eating too.

I did feel sorry for him until I read he voluntarily renounced his citizenship, when he took that of another country.

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Response to Smilo (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:22 PM

xocet (1,156 posts)

5. Where did you read about him?

From the linked article:

"I am totally gobsmacked by this," said Tulloch, who has been told that he can only visit Britain for brief periods as a tourist. "I've got a huge attachment to Britain. My family has served Britain for three generations. I've been banging my head against a wall trying to get this sorted out, but I've never before encountered so much frustration. It's like Kafka."

The army officer's son was granted a lesser form of British nationality known as "British subject without citizenship".

Following a career in UK academia, he was granted citizenship in Australia after taking a job there. Tulloch returned to the UK after directing the Centre for Cultural Research into Risk between 2002 and 2004 at Australia's Charles Stuart University. Prior to that, he was head of the School of Journalism at Cardiff University. Unlike "full" British citizens, who could hold dual citizenship, Tulloch's acquired Australian status led to the cancellation of his British nationality and his passport was confiscated when he applied for its renewal.

"Neither I nor my parents ever received information from the government that this was somehow an inferior passport," Tulloch told the Sunday Telegraph. "In particular, the passport itself explicitly said that you could take out dual nationality without risking your British nationality."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/02/survivor-london-bombings-faces-explusion-uk

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Response to xocet (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:44 PM

loli phabay (3,040 posts)

6. i think its in the text there that he was granted Australian citizenship

thereby renouncing his UK citizenship

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:23 AM

xocet (1,156 posts)

8. Thanks, but you should probably read that again. n/t

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Response to xocet (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:41 AM

loli phabay (3,040 posts)

9. i did and below is what the text said, he took australian citizenship and lost his british.

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he was granted citizenship in Australia after taking a job there

its in the third paragraph.

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Response to Smilo (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:04 PM

harmonicon (11,996 posts)

7. I have multiple friends who have both UK and Australian citizenship.

I've never heard of someone having to give up one to get the other.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:43 AM

loli phabay (3,040 posts)

10. i think the crux is that he was not a british citizen but a subject without citizenship

it seems to be a different category that dosent allow dual nationality.

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:02 PM

harmonicon (11,996 posts)

11. Indeed.

However, the poster I was responding to seemed to be making the claim that such dual citizenship is a strange - and privileged - thing, when it is not.

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Response to Smilo (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:13 AM

xocet (1,156 posts)

12. You claim that he voluntarily renounced his British citizenship....

That was not stated in the article. In fact, from the article, he seems not to have expected to lose his UK nationality.

"Neither I nor my parents ever received information from the government that this was somehow an inferior passport," Tulloch told the Sunday Telegraph. "In particular, the passport itself explicitly said that you could take out dual nationality without risking your British nationality."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/02/survivor-london-bombings-faces-explusion-uk

Did you read somewhere else that he voluntarily renounced his British citizenship or is that just your private interpretation?

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