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Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:35 AM

Obama administration reaffirms no healthcare support for undocumented immigrants

Source: The Miami Herald

After President Barack Obama raised publicity in June with his declaration that 800,000 young undocumented immigrants could remain and work in the United States, his administration quietly issued a rule this week declaring that these immigrants can’t benefit from the healthcare reform law.

The Department of Health and Human Services released a rule amendment to clarify that the Affordable Care Act, which offers coverage to those “lawfully present” in the United States, did not apply to those mentioned in Obama’s June declaration.

The amendment means that the undocumented immigrants will not be able to join the Pre-Existing Condition Plan for high-risk patients and the healthcare exchanges being established to help people and small businesses obtain cheaper rates. The immigrants will also not be able to get into state-federal programs such as Medicaid, the health insurance for the poor, or the Children’s Health Insurance Program.

“This certainly is a substantial financial issue in places like Miami, New York City and Los Angeles,” said Alan Sager, a healthcare policy expert at Boston University. He called the ruling “a relatively minor administrative clarification, a screwing down of something that was already nailed down.”

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/30/2976776/obama-administration-reaffirms.html

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:39 AM

1. I guarantee you, the next shoe to drop is the repeal of all or portions of E.M.T.A.L.A.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:48 AM

2. That would require an act of Congress signed by the President

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:00 PM

4. Well yes. That's how it works. (?) nt

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:54 AM

3. I think this is just a response to the FUCKING LIE that the Repukes keep telling.

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"Obama is giving illegals free health care"


I really don't see any policy implications.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:01 PM

5. Agreed. This is a non-starter.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:10 PM

7. Given how Ryan speaks to the nation

Do you really think the truth is going to stop our honorable but horribly informed opponents?

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 04:14 PM

11. Exactly. Remember Joe "You Lie" Wilson?

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 03:23 PM

13. There are some. Don't know if they're a problem.

If you can work for a small business, does the small business get a subsidy for your insurance? If they don't pay for your insurance, do you get a rebate?

How exactly does the ACA work as far as taxes are concerned for illegal residents under the state of grace offered? And will it be found Constitutional to charge them FICA and Medicare payroll taxes without the implicit contract that the "insurance" programs offer?

Consider U Calif schools. If you're a student and get grants, your health care insurance is covered by grants. If you're a grad student and are a TA or RA, your insurance is part of your mandatory fees and covered by the fee waiver you get. Often those are funded by outside grants, the outside grants are very often federal. That means that your health care is paid for by NIH funds, for example.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:08 PM

6. Well, he did what he had to do in order to make Republicans play ball.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:20 PM

8. Mr. President pleasing the republican kookoos n/t

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 02:24 PM

14. By followed the law as written?

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:30 PM

9. Meanwhile, back in Arizona

 

Jan Brewer is having a scorpion for breakfast, washed down with a martini of course.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:33 PM

10. This is bad public health policy. nt

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Response to Mojorabbit (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 02:34 PM

15. How could not immunizing these other people against communicable diseases possibly hurt me? n/t


I with I could say this -> is not necessary. But far too many teabaggers would ask that question in perfect sincerity.

And not understand the answer.


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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 11:02 PM

16. They'd be better off in their home countries. Health care is free in lots of places.

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