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Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:41 AM

Google, Apple CEOs in secret patent talks

Last edited Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:48 AM USA/ET - Edit history (3)

Source: Reuters

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Google Inc Chief Executive Larry Page and Apple CEO Tim Cook have been conducting behind-the-scenes talks about a range of intellectual property matters, including the mobile patent disputes between the companies, people familiar with the matter said.

The two executives had a phone conversation last week, the sources said. Discussions involving lower-level officials of the two companies are also ongoing.

Page and Cook are expected to talk again in the coming weeks, though no firm date has been set, the sources said on Thursday. One of the sources told Reuters that a meeting had been scheduled for this Friday, but had been delayed for reasons that were unclear.

The two companies are keeping lines of communication open at a high level against the backdrop of Apple's legal victory in a patent infringement case against Samsung, which uses Google's Android software.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-google-apple-ceos-talks-patent-issues-175636839--sector.html?_esi=1



Samsung screwed Google, but good, by revealing how much Android ripped off Apple.

Apple and Google are smart to attempt to avoid a public trial. Which would make the Apple/Samsung trial look like nothing.

Analysts expect Apple to end up making $30+ for every Android product sold. Assuming that Android can afford to survive.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:44 AM

1. Well google lives on

 

and jobs is planted in the ground, so who won in the end?


I am not worried about google, they deliver a flexible product that you don't have to pay through the nose to get.

Oh by the way:

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:51 AM

2. Samsung did not violate Apple patent, Japan rules

The Japanese court case addressed only the synchronizing technology that allows media players to share data with personal computers and was not comparable in scope to the much larger victory that Apple won in the US last week.

Samsung of South Korea, the world's largest maker of phones, welcomed the Tokyo District Court ruling that its technology that allows media players and personal computers to share music files and other content did not infringe on Apple patents as confirming "our long-held position".

"We will continue to offer highly innovative products to consumers, and continue our contributions toward the mobile industry's development," the company said in a statement.

The Apple lawyer present at the courthouse declined to comment to AP, and the company said later it had no comment, including whether it intended to appeal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/electronics/9510810/Samsung-did-not-violate-Apple-patent-Japan-rules.html

Apple lost in the UK too.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:57 AM

3. That was one small ruling. Apple's been winning suits and injunctions all over the world.

Samsung is small potatoes.

Google will pay.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:04 AM

4. Yes, Apple won. But what did it actually win?



Apple won a judgment of $1 billion in damages from Samsung. A billion dollars is a lot of money, but in context it is as if Steve Jobs’s threat to "go thermonuclear" on Samsung has been delivered by Austin Power’s nemesis Dr. Evil: “In a few moments you will notice that the Kreplachistani warhead has gone missing. If you want it back you are going to have to pay me…ONE MILLION DOLLARS.”

According to IDC analyst Ramon Llamas, these damages are applied to 21.3 million Samsung smartphones shipped in the United States during the two-year period ending in the second quarter of 2012. That amounts to about $47 per phone, making the ruling pricey on a bill-of-materials basis. Keep in mind, however, that this judgment only affects the United States. Since 2009, Samsung has shipped over 187 million Android smartphones worldwide. The Apple damages amortized over all these phones amounts to $5.35 per phone.

You may have noticed on Friday that judges in Seoul decided in separate patent litigation between the companies that Apple had infringed on two patents held by Samsung, while the Korean technology giant had violated one of Apple's. The court ordered each company to pay damages to its competitor, netting Samsung 10 million won, or $9,000. The Korean judgment brings to focus the global business of smartphones and the challenges Apple faces in asserting its patent claims throughout disparate worldwide legal venues. One can assume patent litigation in China, India and much of Asia will produce unrewarding results.

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/81309

I'm not sure which other countries you referred to. Which ones did you mean by"winning suits and injunctions all over the world"

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:11 AM

5. Steve Jobs was talking about Google, not Samsung. And like many, you think this is about $1B.

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It is not. To continue to use Apple's UI and designs, Google and the device makers are going to have to pay billions in fees. For many, many years.

They should innovate, not steal.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:25 AM

6. +1000000

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:11 AM

9. Generally, stealing avoids all those nasty development costs and delays.

The snotty programmers, the expensive "consultants" who don't know shit, the anxious VC "angels", etc. You go straight to collecting and squirreling away the cash. And once you have some cash coming in, you can get right to the IPO and your own personal payday. The appeal of that immediate "liquidity event" is obvious.

(Nice cartoon.)

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:01 AM

7. Why should anyone be rooting for Apple to do away with the competition?

The only real losers are consumers who desire to have a choice. Some of the patents that Apple was awarded are just ridiculous. It is what it is but I was using a smartphone way before the iphone was even invented so Apple didn't invent the platform although I have a feeling that's what they want everyone to believe.

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Response to qanda (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:12 AM

10. You may have been using a smartphone, but not the iOS UI. 'Then this happened...'

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Response to onehandle (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:44 AM

11. It's weird to have this discussion while typing on a 15" MacBook Pro

But I prefer the Android OS for my mobile devices. I used Windows up to 6.5 and then Windows just fell off a cliff after being very relevant in the outset of the smartphone platform. Hopefully, with Windows 8 they will be making a comeback but I will probably still stick with Android for the near future. The smugness of many Apple users is very off-putting especially when all most consumers want is the ability to choose.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:05 AM

8. Trying to arrange for more stiff competition, no doubt.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:20 PM

12. They need to be in talks with me..

Since I drew a picture of an iPhone-type device in 1982. I still have the drawing if Apple's lawyers are interested.

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Response to tridim (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 03:15 PM

13. Did you patent your design, engineer it and build it over years, sell millions...

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...then have someone else 'design' it in three months, build it and sell it a few months later?

Yes?

Then call your lawyers.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:33 PM

15. I should have.

But at the time it was an impossible device.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 03:43 PM

14. GOOGLE CONFLICT

check out whats going on between apple and google. visit this site
http://sevencolourgossips.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/google-apple-private-mode-talk/

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