Rubio: Opposing abortion isn't about denying rights

[trailmonkee]

Source: CBS

(CBS News) While President Obama ratchets up his attacks against Republicans on the issue of reproductive rights and abortion, Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida defended his party's stance on the issue.


"I think what's important to understand, yes, Mitt Romney is pro-life and the Republican Party, although it has diversity on this issue, is the home of the pro-life movement in American politics," Rubio said in an interview that aired Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."

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Rubio told "Face the Nation" host Bob Schieffer that for those opposed to abortion, "this is not an issue about denying anyone rights. This is an issue about protecting the rights of a human being to live - irrespective of what stage in development they may be."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57500491/rubio-opposing-abortion-isnt-about-denying-rights/

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Another quote from Another Man explaning to us what Womens Rights are?

[coalition_unwilling]

1. I think one more paragraph from source story is necessary:

Rubio told "Face the Nation" host Bob Schieffer that for those opposed to abortion, "this is not an issue about denying anyone rights. This is an issue about protecting the rights of a human being to live - irrespective of what stage in development they may be."

Rubio implied that life begins at conception. However, Roe v. Wade has been established law since 1973. So let's hang this issue around the Rape-publicans' necks like the millstone it so deservedly is.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2012/08/akins-gift.html#ixzz24f8tTK7X

[SDjack]

2. Another GOPer lie. As usual, the rich women will go to Europe for a secret abortion,

and the poor women cooperating physicians will be tracked down and sent to prison.

[marble falls]

3. Opposing abortion isn't wrong, writing laws against it is.

[flamingdem]

10. exactly, but the repukes don't want to be clear about

how they want to overturn R v W

[bluemarkers]

12. that is perfect! woot

I've been pushed to the limit a few times about my "pro abortion" stance by a few crazy people. While I don't think abortion should be used as a method of birth control, as a medical procedure it should not be legislated. They still think I'm the grimm baby reaper.

[marble falls]

17. Personaly I am against abortion. But one, I am a male, and two because of my values I am biased ...

against it, I don't get allowed to write anti-abortion laws. I also agree with you, abortion is bad birth control and I really don't think many women choose abortion lightly. Its a medical procedure and it belongs between a woman and her chosen medical practitioners,

[nobodyspecial]

4. Look at the language

Redefining a fetus as a human being. Last time I checked, a 2- to 3-month-old fetus -- before which the majority of all abortions are performed -- are not viable outside of the uterus and are not fully formed human beings.

[flpoljunkie]

8. Not just a fetus--a zygote!

A fertilized egg. That's what the personhood amendment is all about.

[wordpix]

14. signs I'd like to see from these asshats: "Save the zygotes!"

The darling zygotes deserve to live! Adopt a zygote~!

[flpoljunkie]

20. No way! They are hoping women do not understand their position.

[bluemarkers]

13. who is responsible for miscarriages?

God?

no no no

Mother Nature....

[treestar]

30. If they insist on this, are they going to start having full on funerals

for miscarried fetuses? That would seem to be necessary in their analysis.

[goclark]

37. Good point ~ I bet each one of those

"skinny dippers" in the ocean type fools has been responsible for everything from Rape to I don't know what else!

[duhneece]

47. Just like an acorn is not an oak tree

Potential. An egg is not a chicken. Fetus, acorn, egg...these have the potential to become something else.

[still_one]

5. it sure is about denying women's rights. You can double speak all you want, but when a party wants

to compel a women who has gone through rape or incest to be forced to carry to term, that is not only denying women's rights, but also telling a women and her doctor that they should be the final say in her well-being

This is the party that believes abstinence is the only method for preventing pregnancy and STDs. They are against condoms, sex education, birth control pills, and needle exchange programs.

[wordpix]

15. +10000

[RC]

21. Absolutely. Where in the Hell is the women rights in this conversation about "Human Rights", the

wing-nutz are so adamant about? I don't see her anywhere.

She is barely mentioned, except in the roll of a barefoot incubator. So far down the list of things to care about, her dieing is not a big deal, as long as the "baby" is safe. Never mind she is someone's loved mother, daughter, sister, wife, friend and if she dies, will be missed far more and far longer and by more people, than her unborn, not fully formed "baby" could ever be.

[font size="5" ]What the Hell is wrong with these people!!!~1`11![/font]

[Andy823]

6. Interesting

So it's all about protecting he rights of a human being to live. So then should the party be against sending our children off to war? Shouldn't the party be all for "health care for everyone", a universal program? Shouldn't they also be doing all they can to make sure millions of people do not die every year because they simply can not afford the current premiums for health care insurance?

They say it's all about "protecting the rights of human beings to live", yet their actions say otherwise!

[lunatica]

27. Don't forget to mention the death penalty laws

Republicans love the death penalty. Why Bush would downright giggle at the thought.

[christx30]

34. Because once

the person is born, they are apparently given their own bootstraps with which they can pull them selves up.
Once the person leaves the vagina, they are no longer persons that must be protected, but either drains on society or meat for the war grinder. They are the ruler for the dick measuring contest between world leaders who don't give a shit, and don't have to.
"Die for your country."

I listened to my parents talk to my 15 year old nephew about military service yesterday. We were talking about different paths he could take in his life. He said that he was perfectly ok with dying for his country. My mom said that military service is the ultimate love he could express for the US. I was pushing him to get into computers or automechanics, because he has a knack for both. I was horrified hearing them talk about sending him off to Afghanistan or Iran.
You're born, you have a childhood. You eat ice cream and work hard at learning something so you can make something of your life. Then you go off to a foreign country and get blown up by a cell phone bomb taking supplies to a base. Everything you did until that moment is now meaningless. Your family is given a flag and the thanks of a grateful nation, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean much.

My brother went to boot camp for the Marines. This was before 9/11. Injured his shoulder jumping into some water with his pack on, so they gave him a discharge. He found out later that his unit went over to Afghanistan, and their helicopter was shot down. No survivors.

[LynneSin]

7. You can NOT be pro-life and support war or oppose ensuring everyone has affordable healthcare

That makes you ANTI-CHOICE Mr. Rubio.

[Zoeisright]

9. Rubio, like all repukes, is a fucking liar.

And I don't see asshole repukes "protecting the rights of a human being to live" by opposing the affordable care act, WIC, prenatal research, women's health access, medical research, and promoting war and guns.

[flamingdem]

11. exactly n/t

[reflection]

16. What sort of "diversity on this issue" is Rubio referring to?

Because I sure as hell don't see it.

[warrior1]

18. he opens his mouth

and out comes bullshit.

[WallaceRitchie]

19. Stage of development argument

That's like saying an egg and some flour are a Cake.

[trailmonkee]

22. I wonder what stage of development Rubio is in?

[RC]

23. Good analogy.

Thanks.

[onehandle]

24. A reminder that this man is a frontrunner for 2016. nt

[niyad]

25. of course it isn't an issue about denying anyone's rights, because WOMEN ARE NOT People

you cannot deny rights to something that does not actually exist, right?

[Bossy Monkey]

26. So, denying the right to abortion isn't about denying rights. Thanks for the explanation, Marco! nt

[JDPriestly]

28. That old-fashioned Republican Sandra Day O'Connor thought differently and said so in the Supreme

Court decision Casey v. Planned Parenthood.

Shows you just how crazy far right the Republican Party has swung.

They've got to be brought back to reality.

I guess Republican women are immune from tubal pregnancies or babies that die inside of them and poison their bodies or diabetes or heart conditions or all the other things that can go wrong in pregnancy.

[treestar]

29. He's talking as if the woman does not exist

[WallaceRitchie]

31. GOP stills thinks storks bring babies

There can be no bun without the oven.

[gkhouston]

38. Once you conceive, your "stage of development" becomes "expendable". n/t

[ZombieHorde]

32. "Opposing abortion isn't about denying rights"

Generally speaking, this is actually true. Pro-life folks generally view abortion as baby killing.

"Both sides" of this issue often use extremely fallacious argumentation, such as "mind reading," when discussing abortion.

Mind reading is when you think you know a person's or group's "true thoughts" about a subject, and those thoughts are irrational or evil. This fallacious way of thinking is most common between married couples, but it obviously happens in politics too.

[kestrel91316]

33. Women aren't even human to these people. We may as well just

be disembodied uteri.

[4th law of robotics]

35. I wonder if the disagreement on this really is on the question

of when a person becomes a person.

I will admit I can see no clear line between when it's a fetus and when it's a child. I have no problem with abortion in the first or 2nd trimester. Third it get's a little iffy. 5 minutes before birth: no.

But there's not a clear point at which I can say before this yes, after this no. Granted we have to come up with arbitrary delineations all the time (17 and 364 days is a child, 18 is an adult). But still I can see why there are disputes.

And then of course there are many people who probably do like to oppose it to keep women in their place so to speak. I'm not talking about them here though.

[UTUSN]

36. Well, Marco/a-hole, contraception ain't about denying RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. n/t

[oldsarge54]

40. Think about it

Buy pro-life is about denying Religious Freedom. Every pro-lifer eventually ends up throwing the religious text of one's choice at their opponents. I think that I might count the number of purely secular pro-lifers on my fingers, with at least enough left for several obscene gestures.

[MichiganVote]

39. Says another dick with a dick

[Arugula Latte]

43. Yep. That's it in a nutshell (pun intended).

[Auntie Bush]

41. So he wants to take womens rights away and give them to a fertilized egg.

Wow! that really makes sense!

[Solly Mack]

42. Just so long as that human being isn't a woman because

obviously, from his words, women aren't human at all.

Fuck all (self-styled) "pro-lifers".

I consider you all a threat to my life. That makes you someone I need to defend myself from.

[neverforget]

44. As usual, the woman is not factored into their position

[Rain Mcloud]

45. The Feminazi's want rights too!(sarcasm)

Oh the hypocrisy!
You must follow the counsel of a man who pissed off the ruler of a nation so bad and tricked him into freeing another nation of slaves and who received the word of god,face to face(or so he claimed) and then broke the stone tablets which god made(or so he claimed and they had papyrus technology then)then got drunk and screwed his daughter's.
All this from a 3,000 year old book which has not one shred of consistency save for the lineage of the tribe of Abraham and which was added to another collection of books which were voted for by a huge council in Turkmenistan as what surely must be the holy word of god.
Women,children and animals are property and men are the rulers of everything in the world including woman,children and animals.
I find the whole thing suspect and doubt that it would stand up in a revolutionary war drum head tribunal.
The bastards know this but there is a flock of ignorant sheep out there know they are ignorant but do the right thing and they vote by the book(or what has been explained to them by their holy book explainer).
Lewis Black has an interesting take on this but i could not find the episode,so i offer in its stead his reaction to Kirk Cameron's latest gaffe,please,enjoy!:[link:

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[Rain Mcloud]

46. Damnit no video! Grrrrrrrrrrr!

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