Jury: Samsung's Phones Infringed on Some Apple Patents; Jury awards Apple $1.051 Billion

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Last edited Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:18 PM - Edit history (4)

Source: Reuters

@Reuters: Jury verdict says some Samsung phones infringed Apple design patent on icons, watch http://t.co/NzQPj2jZ for updates $AAPL

@Reuters: Jury says Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 did not infringe Apple design patent on industrial tablet design, watch http://t.co/NzQPj2jZ $AAPL

Samsung's phones infringed on some Apple patents: jury
SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA | Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:53pm EDT

SAN JOSE, California (Reuters) - A U.S. jury said on Friday that Samsung Electronics Co Ltd had infringed some of Apple Inc's patents.

The verdict is still being read in a San Jose, California, federal courtroom and not all of the key legal findings have been announced.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE87N13V20120824

[Cooley Hurd]

1. Kick

[dipsydoodle]

2. Watch for separate international trials too

South Korea blocked the sale of some of the products of both companies this morning having found both companies guilty of infringing each others patents.

[dipsydoodle]

3. What you've added

appears to be a repetition, by coincidence , of that happened this morning in S. Korea.

[onehandle]

4. Pay Up, Foreign Company! Billions now, and Billions for YEARS! Google is Next.

It's about the OS. Not the crappy little Samsung devices.

Android is pure theft. Samsung set them perfectly.

This thief is having a bad night:



Sell your Google stock, now.

[ThoughtCriminal]

5. Apple owns Linux now?

when did that happen?

[savalez]

8. Apple's an American Company?

When did that happen?

[MessiahRp]

9. We can tell who the fanboy is in this thread.

Apple makes almost everything in China under slave labor conditions. Seriously fuck them.

[onehandle]

10. What did you post this from?

Same factories.

Want to avoid slave labor? Go live in the woods.

[MightyMopar]

13. And which phone company doesn't make phones in China in Foxconn factories?

[totodeinhere]

14. True but it's hard to find an electronics product made by any manufacturer that is not. n/t

[naaman fletcher]

15. Dude, this is a victory for Samsung.

1 billion and they walk away.

[former9thward]

21. Exactly wrong.

No walking away. You must not have followed the case. This will affect their products far into the future. If they could just "walk away" they would have happily paid a billion to settle the case before trial.

[Hugabear]

22. Apple is seeking an outright ban on Samsung sales

At least a complete ban on many Samsung products - those found "too similar" to Apple.

I guess that means any rectangular-shaped smartphone that uses icons to represent various programs.

[naaman fletcher]

23. And they lost on that point, didn't they? nt

[onehandle]

25. Unless they pay the 1B, and pay fees to continue to use Apple's Design and UI...

...the courts will ban the devices named in the winning lawsuit.

This has happened before.

Samsung will pay Billions in the end.

[Hugabear]

30. How do you figure that?

The trial didn't cover bans - in fact, Apple is still seeking to ban many Samsung products.

http://www.sfgate.com/technology/article/Apple-seeks-ban-on-8-Samsung-phones-3818538.php

Apple on Monday followed up on its billion-dollar patent infringement award against rival Samsung Electronics by requesting that a judge ban U.S. sales of eight models of the South Korean company's smartphones.

In a filing in the same San Jose federal court where it won its case after a four-week trial Friday, Apple urged U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh to ban the sales of the Galaxy S 4G, S2 AT&T, S2 Skyrocket, S2 T-Mobile, S2 Epic 4G, S Showcase, the Droid Charge and the Prevail.

Apple already has won a ban on U.S. sales of Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet, a ban Samsung sought to have lifted Sunday after the jury found the company's tablet computer didn't infringe the Apple design patent on which the June ban was based. (The jury found that the device infringed three of Apple's software patents instead.)

[kwassa]

6. A Korean company gets tried by a Silicon Valley court with a local jury.

How could they ever win?

How many jury members have family connections to the local tech industry and Apple?

[onehandle]

11. Some countries have begun to block Samsung products for infringement.

That's what will happen here if Samsung doesn't pay up on current and future models.

Apple will make money on every Samsung product for years.

Until they actually come up with an original design.

[naaman fletcher]

16. I read this as a samsung win

1 billion and they walk away.. that's not bad

[onehandle]

18. This will affect their profits for a long time.

What are they going to do now that they can't copy Apple any more. Innovate?

They tried that and failed.

This is about much more than a measly $1B.

And Google is next. Samsung has set them up. That's why they begged Samsung not to copy Apple.

[naaman fletcher]

19. What do you mean?

They have taken a huge part of the market for a price tag of 1 billion. That is cheap. Why can't they just do it again?

[onehandle]

20. That's just the initial payment. To continue to use Apple's design and UI, they will have to pay.

Or innovate. That's not going to happen.

They're copycats.

[former9thward]

26. "A huge victory for Apple"

Stanford law professor disagrees with you. “This is a huge victory for Apple,” Mark Lemley, a Stanford Law School professor, said in an e-mail. “The verdict is just large enough to be the largest surviving patent verdict in history.”

“Even more important is the injunction Judge Koh is likely to issue,” Lemley said after the verdict on Aug.24. “The real question is whether this is enough to derail the momentum the Android ecosystem has gained in the marketplace.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-25/apple-s-1-billion-verdict-may-lead-to-samsung-sales-ban.html

[Posteritatis]

27. Until the next time they're sued for something similar citing this as precedent. (nt)

[bl968]

12. This one isn't over would be my bet...

The jury went in with the outcome predetermined, and I have no doubt that will be one of the grounds that Samsung will be appealing.

The Jurors had a 700 question jury form and based on total time they deliberated, they spent less than 2 minutes on each one. There was absolutely no deliberation.

[dipsydoodle]

17. Apple and Samsung get South Korea bans

A South Korean court has ruled that Apple and Samsung both infringed each other's patents on mobile devices.

The court imposed a limited ban on national sales of products by both companies covered by the ruling.

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The sales ban will apply to Apple's iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and its tablets the iPad and iPad 2.

Samsung products affected by the ban include its smartphone models Galaxy SI and SII and its Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet PCs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19364875

Different results are likely to occur worldwide. Unlikely to affect later models.

[dipsydoodle]

24. It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings.

Samsung to appeal after $1bn Apple award in US case http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19381096

[4saken]

28. This is extremely lame. Apple can't deal with the competition(or thinks it doesn't need to)...

The "similar" designs between the phones can be attributed to shifts in social interests. And appealing to those interests. Just because people started to like the idea of high offset bevels, and large screens have become affordable to produce, doesn't mean they should be owned by Apple. Apple is pulling this bullshit because they know their phones aren't the best. It really shows just how pathetic and dis-likable Apple is.

[hunter]

29. Do software patent battles like this make the world a better place?

I don't think so.

But theres too much money in play and this prevents a rational restructuring of the patent system.