Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:46 AM
Berlin Expat (433 posts)
Election 2012: Missouri Senate Missouri Senate: McCaskill (D) 48%, Akin (R) 38%Last edited Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:51 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Source: Rasmussen Reports
What a difference one TV interview can make. Embattled Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill has now jumped to a 10-point lead over her Republican challenger, Congressman Todd Akin, in Missouri’s U.S. Senate race. Most Missouri Republicans want Akin to quit the race while most Missouri Democrats want him to stay. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the Show Me State finds McCaskill earning 48% support to Akin’s 38%. Nine percent (9%) like some other candidate in the race, and five percent (5%) are undecided. Read more: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_senate_elections/missouri/election_2012_missouri_senate I should elaborate, for those who many not be aware, Rasmussen tends to tilt GOP as far as polling goes. So if they're showing a 10 point deficit for Akin, the GOP is in trouble down Missouri way.
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| Berlin Expat | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| oldtime dfl_er | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| Berlin Expat | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| DearAbby | Aug 2012 | #37 | |
| Coyotl | Aug 2012 | #67 | |
| Contrary1 | Aug 2012 | #45 | |
| 4lbs | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| Berlin Expat | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| klook | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| samsingh | Aug 2012 | #35 | |
| SunSeeker | Aug 2012 | #68 | |
| sofa king | Aug 2012 | #47 | |
| Kalidurga | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| amuse bouche | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| lobodons | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| Cosmocat | Aug 2012 | #46 | |
| DonRedwood | Aug 2012 | #56 | |
| russspeakeasy | Aug 2012 | #59 | |
| julian09 | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| bushisanidiot | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| Berlin Expat | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| DearAbby | Aug 2012 | #39 | |
| klook | Aug 2012 | #32 | |
| musiclawyer | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| truthisfreedom | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| TahitiNut | Aug 2012 | #38 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Aug 2012 | #42 | |
| Mz Pip | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| RC | Aug 2012 | #43 | |
| Liberal_Stalwart71 | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| Berlin Expat | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| muriel_volestrangler | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| xmas74 | Aug 2012 | #64 | |
| Gary 50 | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| eissa | Aug 2012 | #44 | |
| DainBramaged | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| Lone_Star_Dem | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| cosmicone | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| Frances | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| Frances | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| jeff47 | Aug 2012 | #40 | |
| LynneSin | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| Lone_Star_Dem | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| LisaL | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| JNelson6563 | Aug 2012 | #57 | |
| xmas74 | Aug 2012 | #65 | |
| Jamaal510 | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| pstokely | Aug 2012 | #62 | |
| karynnj | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| Frances | Aug 2012 | #34 | |
| longship | Aug 2012 | #36 | |
| liberallibral | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| Hawaii Hiker | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| marble falls | Aug 2012 | #33 | |
| The Stranger | Aug 2012 | #41 | |
| xmas74 | Aug 2012 | #66 | |
| Lebam in LA | Aug 2012 | #48 | |
| SpankMe | Aug 2012 | #49 | |
| trailmonkee | Aug 2012 | #50 | |
| still_one | Aug 2012 | #51 | |
| Firebrand Gary | Aug 2012 | #52 | |
| SleeplessinSoCal | Aug 2012 | #63 | |
| wordpix | Aug 2012 | #53 | |
| outsideworld | Aug 2012 | #54 | |
| Norbert | Aug 2012 | #55 | |
| kimbutgar | Aug 2012 | #58 | |
| Botany | Aug 2012 | #60 | |
| pstokely | Aug 2012 | #61 | |
| Dont call me Shirley | Aug 2012 | #69 | |
| Third Doctor | Aug 2012 | #70 |
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:48 AM
oldtime dfl_er (5,108 posts)
1. We should all encourage Akin
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to stay in the race and keep talking!
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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #1)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:53 AM
Berlin Expat (433 posts)
3. Oh, I totally agree
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We need this Neanderthal cretin in the race.......he's the poster boy for the knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers that constitute the Republican Party of today.
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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #1)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:23 PM
DearAbby (12,196 posts)
37. Damage done
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Now to take offense, we've got the ball. Let's hang it around Ryan's neck.
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Response to DearAbby (Reply #37)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 02:50 AM
Coyotl (5,403 posts)
67. Nationwide. This will have a huge impact everywhere in the country this Fall.
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In due time, this will transfer from Akin to all Republicans, especially as the platform gets linked to the rhetoric by Akin and Ryan.
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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #1)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:52 PM
Contrary1 (10,963 posts)
45. I sent him a nice message regarding how unfairly the media was treating him...
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:49 AM
4lbs (5,131 posts)
2. If Rasmussen shows a 10 point lead for McCaskill then the real difference is probably greater
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since Rasmussen is infamous for oversampling Republicans.
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Response to 4lbs (Reply #2)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:54 AM
Berlin Expat (433 posts)
4. I consider Rasmussen
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a GOP polling outfit, but in fairness, that's strictly my personal opinion.
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Response to 4lbs (Reply #2)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:31 PM
klook (4,468 posts)
27. Just was reading about how they tend to poll more landline-only phone customers
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which of course skews to old folks. They miss a lot of cellphone-only users. Interesting article about this in NY Times not too long ago.
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Response to 4lbs (Reply #2)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:58 PM
samsingh (10,393 posts)
35. rasmussen may be purposely tilting it the other way to get the asshole - akin - to quit the race
Response to samsingh (Reply #35)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:25 AM
SunSeeker (5,334 posts)
68. That's what I'm afraid of. Wish they'd STFU until Sept. 25!!!
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Response to 4lbs (Reply #2)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:04 PM
sofa king (8,767 posts)
47. Unless Rasmussen is pushing in the other direction...
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... for once.
I think Fox News is trying to send this chump a message. Let us hope he remains as instransigent as he always has been. |
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:54 AM
Kalidurga (4,829 posts)
5. I feel better now...
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knowing even some republicans are against forcible birth.
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:58 AM
amuse bouche (1,761 posts)
6. Wow
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This is fabulous. Now we need this kind of action for the Prez
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:59 AM
lobodons (667 posts)
7. Rasmussen wants Akin out
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Rasmussen represents the GOP establishment and wants to show Akin losing to help shove him out.
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Response to lobodons (Reply #7)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:01 PM
Cosmocat (5,409 posts)
46. YEP
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that would be my take ...
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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #46)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:36 PM
DonRedwood (3,549 posts)
56. yup....rassmussen always leans away from the people they don't like
Response to lobodons (Reply #7)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:41 PM
russspeakeasy (5,787 posts)
59. The poll is bullshit.
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:00 PM
julian09 (1,435 posts)
8. Probably want to lull Dems into thinking , no need to vote.
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:00 PM
bushisanidiot (7,862 posts)
9. bad poll numbers will be the only thing to get akin to drop out
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although, he DID say he isn't a quitter! hope he stays in!
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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
Berlin Expat (433 posts)
14. To quote a famous Jedi general,
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Akin is on a "damned fool crusade".
The man believes he's on a mission from God, and zealots are not well-known as being the most reasonable of people. C'est la vie. |
Response to Berlin Expat (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:28 PM
DearAbby (12,196 posts)
39. I disagree.
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Their party platform proves this. Akin is more aligned with the party than Romney. There isn't bit of daylight between Akin and Ryan.
This campaign has changed in the eyes of the RW Base...they are thinking Ryan pulling a CHENEY, only he is younger and totally heartless. (Cheney's was a transplant from a human being) They are running Ryan. That is the one people should be paying attention too. |
Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:44 PM
klook (4,468 posts)
32. Only cowards cut and run.
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I heard that somewhere.
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:07 PM
musiclawyer (2,063 posts)
10. This poll proves one thing
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Dems MUST tether Akin's views to the entire GOP. They are one and the same. We here on DU know that, but millions of low information voters do not. It's odd that we would be using women's rights, "banning contraception" etc in the 21st century as a wedge. But timely irony is refreshing sometimes. It's one of those things where if enough women vote Dem, it does not matter how energized the GOP base is. And I frankly think Paul Ryan is proof they were not energized that much to begin with.
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Response to musiclawyer (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:10 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
15. Republicans = Rape. There's your 2012 brand. I'm going to be repeating it every day
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from now through November.
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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:42 PM
truthisfreedom (17,692 posts)
30. Rapepublicans.
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There.
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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #30)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:24 PM
TahitiNut (71,568 posts)
38. "R" = Rapologists
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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #30)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:12 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
42. Beautiful. Now that's branding at its finest - n/t
Response to musiclawyer (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:39 PM
Mz Pip (23,886 posts)
21. There is no daylight
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between the policies of Akin and the policies of Ryan and the GOP platform.
It really doesn't matter so much what Akins believes, it's about what he and the rest of the GOP would do about it. Hopefully, people who have their issues with Obama will hold their nose and vote for him because the alternative is just awful. It's all about turnout and an unenthusiastic vote is worth the same as an enthusiastic one. |
Response to musiclawyer (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:36 PM
RC (21,861 posts)
43. Don't have to. The GOP did it for us by spelling out it their in their platform.
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"Dems MUST tether Akin's views to the entire GOP."
GOP rejects rape exception in platform
TAMPA, Fla. — Even as Mitt Romney sought to quash the furor surrounding Todd Akin’s “legitimate” rape comments, the Republican platform committee here approved an abortion plank that includes no exemptions for rape, incest or even to save the life of the mother. The platform committee instead approved draft language Tuesday, calling for a “Human Life Amendment” that gives legal protection to the unborn. Democrats quickly labeled the GOP language the “Akin Plank,” referring to the Missouri Senate candidate’s statements that victims of “legitimate rape” rarely get pregnant. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79945.html |
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:07 PM
Liberal_Stalwart71 (14,157 posts)
11. Don't celebrate yet. He may have no choice but to drop out and try to get someone
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to replace him on the ballot if he does so before September 26 (?). His numbers may be too much in the toilet. However, I don't put anything past the Republicans. Voter fraud, lying ads, all kinds of shenanigans come to the fore when they feel threatened or are vulnerable.
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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:12 PM
Berlin Expat (433 posts)
16. I totally agree; Mr. Akin may
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drop out. He has until the 25th of September to do so, actually, two more days.
Whether he does or not, I can't say with any certainty. I do hope he stays in, not just to retain the seat from MO, but because Mr. Akin serves as a valuable instrument; a brush with which to paint a less than flattering portrait of the entire GOP. |
Response to Berlin Expat (Reply #16)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:36 PM
muriel_volestrangler (65,826 posts)
19. September? Or August? (nt)
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #19)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 12:21 AM
xmas74 (24,591 posts)
64. He still has until late September to drop out.
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I believe local news said he'll have to go through the courts to do so and the GOP will have to pay the entire cost of reprinting all the ballots.(If he had dropped a few days' ago there would be no worries.)
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:08 PM
Gary 50 (28 posts)
12. My faith in America somewhat restored.
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Initial polling after Akin's brain fart showed him leading by one percentage point. I guess it took a few days for his gross stupidity to register with the public. Still troubling that 38% could support the American Taliban.
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Response to Gary 50 (Reply #12)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:51 PM
eissa (2,420 posts)
44. Mine isn't
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Americans have notoriously short attention spans. The media will come up with The Next Big Story before November and most of the electorate will probably forget who Akin is, let alone the stupidity he spews. I want to believe these polls, I really do, but I've been so disappointed before.
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:08 PM
DainBramaged (38,132 posts)
13. Isn't it too late for Akin to be quitted?
Response to DainBramaged (Reply #13)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:16 PM
Lone_Star_Dem (27,742 posts)
17. No, only without a court order.
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Up until 7 weeks out from the election he can go before the court and remove himself.
This, in my opinion, is very likely the GOP trying to get him to do just that. |
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:17 PM
cosmicone (3,427 posts)
18. Rasmussen may be purposely doing this
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to force Akin out of the race.
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Response to cosmicone (Reply #18)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:37 PM
Frances (7,804 posts)
20. Agree!
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PPP (a Dem, but reliable organization) polled a day after people had heard Akin's comments and found him with a 1 point lead over Claire.
Rasmussen is as crooked as they come. I think these poll results are designed to get Akin to quit. |
Response to Frances (Reply #20)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:40 PM
Frances (7,804 posts)
29. Reason that Rasmussen has McCaskill with a 10 point lead
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from Taegan Goddard's political wire:
"A source close to Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) tells The Daily that the congressman would likely stay in the U.S. Senate race if polls continue to show him within five points of Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), but that if he falls into a deficit between seven and nine points, "that gets difficult." "National Journal reports Akin commissioned an automated poll on Monday, which showed him in a statistical dead heat with McCaskill. That finding, along with a separate Public Policy Polling survey also showing the race competitive, played a large role in convincing him not to withdraw from the race." Rasmussen just wants Akin to drop out. I do not trust their poll. |
Response to Frances (Reply #20)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:44 PM
jeff47 (7,858 posts)
40. It often takes a while for a gaffe to affect polls.
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So one day after Akin's statement is probably too soon to measure the real result with a poll.
Not saying Rasmussen is right here, but the PPP poll was too close to the event to measure the results. |
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:44 PM
LynneSin (89,796 posts)
22. I predict that a 3rd party candidate will run and be supported by the RNC
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RNC won't give another dime to Akin. There is a Sore Loser clause is Missouri so none of the people that ran against Akin in the primaries can run as an independent. So that means it will probably be Ashcroft, Bond or Talent that will be recruited to run as an independent and hopefully salvage the Missouri race.
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Response to LynneSin (Reply #22)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:48 PM
Lone_Star_Dem (27,742 posts)
23. They would if they could, but the date to file was July 30th.
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They need to force him to step down. He's holding out for a better deal.
He's really got the GOP over a barrel. |
Response to LynneSin (Reply #22)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:42 PM
LisaL (22,908 posts)
31. If Akin stays on, that will only split the republican vote.
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And will make it easier for a democrat to win.
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Response to LynneSin (Reply #22)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:42 PM
JNelson6563 (24,830 posts)
57. Or they'll run and fund a Green (again)
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A pox on both of those houses.
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Response to LynneSin (Reply #22)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 12:23 AM
xmas74 (24,591 posts)
65. I think it's too late to file.
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A friend is running third party as a state rep and they had to file with fees paid by July 30th.
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:57 PM
Jamaal510 (3,339 posts)
24. WHOA!
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Didn't see this coming. No wonder why the rightists were trying to boot Akin out of the race. I actually thought he'd have this in the bag despite his comments, since MO is a red state.
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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #24)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:44 PM
pstokely (7,530 posts)
62. It's not a solid red state
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Obama lost it by less than 1%
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:00 PM
karynnj (46,820 posts)
25. I hope this is real - but could it be the Republican Rassmussen pushing Akin?
Response to karynnj (Reply #25)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:57 PM
Frances (7,804 posts)
34. McCaskill thinks Rasmussen is just trying to get Akin to drop out
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from Talking Points Memo's Live Wire:
"Claire McCaskill✔ @clairecmc Rasmussen poll made me laugh out loud. If anyone believes that, I just turned 29. Sneaky stuff. bit.ly/SscVZf" |
Response to Frances (Reply #34)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:15 PM
longship (18,204 posts)
36. Good girl, Sen. McCaskill
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That shows how smart she is. And it is a win/win tactic. If the poll is correct, she wins hugely. But she isn't going to presume that.
You go, Claire. |
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:24 PM
liberallibral (272 posts)
26. Love it!!!
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Especially love when the GOP just digs their own grave, bwahahaha!!!!
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:39 PM
Hawaii Hiker (2,453 posts)
28. Not sure whether this is some sort of Jedi mind trick
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by Rasmussen to make Akin look so bad he'll leave the race, or is this an accurate poll?...
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:44 PM
marble falls (2,101 posts)
33. Bravo! I think he should go and free lance campaign nationwide for Romney/Akins jr. ticket .....
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Last edited Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:47 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) he's got the Missouri election all tied up, he need's to share the magic.
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:48 PM
The Stranger (10,584 posts)
41. " . . . while most Missouri Democrats want him to stay."
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I couldn't help but laugh.
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Response to The Stranger (Reply #41)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 12:25 AM
xmas74 (24,591 posts)
66. This MO Dem wants him to stay, take off his shoes,
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put his feet up. I'll get him a daiquiri if he likes-he seems too fancy for a can of beer. I'll even let him have the tv remote while I order a pizza.
I don't want him going anywhere until November. |
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:14 PM
Lebam in LA (970 posts)
48. Seems a little fishy to me
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I don't trust Rasmussen. What are they upto?
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:14 PM
SpankMe (500 posts)
49. He'll come back and it'll be a closer race than this.
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There are 2-1/2 months until the election. Republicans have a habit of stubbornly sticking to their agenda - no matter how wrong it is - and gradually regaining ground. Time heals all wounds. Don't relax. Keep on hitting back.
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:25 PM
trailmonkee (2,605 posts)
50. nice!!!!!!!
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:31 PM
still_one (31,419 posts)
51. This is huge because it signals that the women vote should destroy the repugs at the polls
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:56 PM
Firebrand Gary (3,342 posts)
52. Rasmussan is trash, they are only putting up these false numbers to push Akin out! nt
Response to Firebrand Gary (Reply #52)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 12:18 AM
SleeplessinSoCal (1,706 posts)
63. I wish that could be proven, so they could be pushed out of the polling business!
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 05:02 PM
wordpix (12,502 posts)
53. Keep going, Claire!
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 05:09 PM
outsideworld (599 posts)
54. dont believe this
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One bit .
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 06:07 PM
Norbert (2,591 posts)
55. I hope Akin has coat tails
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I'd love to see that idiot Steve King knocked out of Congress as well.
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:45 PM
kimbutgar (851 posts)
58. Karl rove is in bed with Rasmussen as much as I'd like I don't believe this poll
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:20 PM
Botany (36,161 posts)
60. Rasmussen
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:24 PM
pstokely (7,530 posts)
61. I expect it get closer as the near election nears
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but now Claire has the edge
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Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:28 PM
Dont call me Shirley (1,395 posts)
69. YES! I voted for Claire way back when....
Response to Berlin Expat (Original post)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:57 PM
Third Doctor (1,027 posts)
70. I don't believe
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this poll. That's too big a swing in just a few days especially in a red state. I would think it's a tie or one or the other has a very slight lead.
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