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Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:30 PM

Rep. Steve King: I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest

Source: TPM

Rep. Steve King, one of the most staunchly conservative members of the House, was one of the few Republicans who did not strongly condemn Rep. Todd Akin Monday for his remarks regarding pregnancy and rape. King also signaled why — he might agree with parts of Akin’s assertion.

King told an Iowa reporter he’s never heard of a child getting pregnant from statutory rape or incest.

“Well I just haven’t heard of that being a circumstance that’s been brought to me in any personal way,” King told KMEG-TV Monday, “and I’d be open to discussion about that subject matter.”

A Democratic source flagged King’s praise of Akin in the KMEG interview to TPM. But potentially more controversial for King is his suggestion that pregnancies from statutory rape or incest don’t exist or happen rarely. A 1996 review by the Guttmacher Institute found “at least half of all babies born to minor women are fathered by adult men.”

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:33 PM

1. Lemme tell you about how a stork brings a baby to a house...

I saw it on a cartoon one time, right after that historical documentary called "The Flintstones". I wanted a pet dinosaur like Dino, but my parents wouldn't oblige...

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:34 PM

2. Wow - all the Repubbies want to jump into the cesspool

Reckon they feel at home there...

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:34 PM

3. The Repugs are doubling down!

If they want to make this election about whether rape victims have magical powers instead of the economy, fine by me.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:35 PM

4. Sounds like his daughters have been lucky so far.

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Response to IggleDoer (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:43 PM

8. Snort.

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Response to IggleDoer (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:38 PM

64. Maybe he should keep checking within his family. Just because nobody told him doesn't mean

 

it didn't happen.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:37 PM

5. he's an attention hound fanning flames on purpose imho

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:38 PM

6. personally

Lots of people don't know anything abut dumb American politicians either.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:39 PM

7. Of course, Rep. King

strictly limits his exposure to actual living, breathing women, seeing as they're icky and all. So I'm not surprised that he hasn't heard of this.

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Response to Lindsay (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:03 PM

93. That's because

actual living, breathing women have......

VAGINAS!!!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:46 PM

9. i guess he never heard of a shot gun wedding!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:47 PM

10. Just WOW!

I keep reading this disgusting bile from these Rethug douche nozzles day in and day out on every subject under discussion in this election and I really can't for the life of me understand why the bottom doesn't just fall out on these ass hats!?!? This is really the limit...their junk science posits that when a lady has an orgasm there is an "upsuck" (their term) that sucks the sperm into the egg. So, follow me now, if there is no orgasm... no upsuck. If you are raped and become pregnant it must be a result of your having an orgasm and therefore... YOU ENJOYED IT!
Hence all of the push to change the rape of terminology to stratify the degree of violation: Liked it and got pregnant (BAD Jezebel you deserve to rot in hell with your innocent sent from God angel baby)...kind of liked it (SLUT)... hated it (LYING SLUT)... meh(WE KNEW IT!)
RAPE IS VIOLATION!!!!!!!!!!!
All of the left comeback on this issue has been way too soft on these bastards. WHEN WILL THE RACHELS AND EDS take the gloves off and tell it like it is? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

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Response to Zoonart (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:23 PM

59. "This is really the limit...."

I don't think we'll ever see the bottom of their stupidity. It's like a bottomless pit and infinite. But there will be a limit to the American public's tolerance of this ignorance. We haven't reached that point yet, but it's getting close. It's like the Republicans are actively seeking their slide into irrelevance. How low can they go? I don't think there is a limit on that!!

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Response to Harry Monroe (Reply #59)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:29 PM

104. It's not stupidity, it's hatred

Misogyny, more correctly put in this case.

The stupidity is when the justification is necessary- they prefer to do it with a stake or a noose and a "Because we told you so."

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:48 PM

11. Double Down

If someone had told me yesterday that another elected official would double-down on Akin's remarks, I would have called them foolish.

This is frightening.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:49 PM

12. You know NOTHING--Yet you want to legislate for all women!

This is what chaps my hide (and uterus). These ignorant, misogynists do not know how a woman's body works. They are also unaware of the realities of pregnancy. Yet, they want to make laws about women's bodies and about women and their pregnancies.

Doesn't that seem just a little bit ridiculous and disturbing to anyone else?

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:58 PM

17. + a brazillion.

Damn we women put up with some shit. It never fails to astound me what we let govern us. VOTE, women, vote! Vote them out, vote people, male and female, who bother to know who we are and what we need from them, in.

Get mad. And then vote.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #17)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:58 PM

51. In contrast with what Obama said at the Press Conference Yesterday:

THE PRESIDENT:

Well, let me, first of all, say the views expressed
were offensive. Rape is rape. And the idea that we should be parsing and qualifying and slicing what types of rape we’re talking about doesn’t make sense to the American people and certainly doesn’t make sense to me.

So what I think these comments do underscore is why we shouldn’t have a bunch of politicians, a majority of whom are men, making health care decisions on behalf of women.

And so, although these particular comments have led Governor Romney and other Republicans to distance themselves, I think the underlying notion that we should be making decisions on behalf of women for their health care decisions -- or qualifying forcible rape versus non-forcible rape -- I think those are broader issues, and that is a significant difference in approach between me and the other party.

But I don’t think that they would agree with the Senator from Missouri in terms of his statement, which was way out there.

Except today they are coming out of the woodwork and doubling down in support...

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Response to freshwest (Reply #51)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:12 PM

108. He could have skipped the last sentence.

Romney may disagree, but Ryan has been strangely silent...

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:15 PM

54. Yeah--rather like celibate priests deciding issues concerning women's reproductive

healthcare needs.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:10 PM

107. No to "ridiculous", yes to "disturbing".

I would add "frightening", because it's very real. As long as Republicans control the House, we will keep seeing these frightening bills, and if we have a Republican president, they are going to pass.

Not ridiculous. Very frightening.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:49 PM

13. Oh, then that makes it okay.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:50 PM

14. And these are the same ones who rail against unwed teen pregnancies

and yet refuse to make that leap of a connection as to one of the causes.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:20 PM

102. Well those unwed teens wouldn't be getting preggers if they

would just stop having illicit ORGASMS. It's their own fault.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:52 PM

15. Good lord, who the hell votes

for these biologically ignorant a**holes AND they put their ignorance on parade, They are proud of it!

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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:04 PM

18. Steve King is from my state of Iowa...

...and he lives in the Northwest corner, which is an arch-conservative bastion. The middle of the state is pretty liberal and we have large pockets of liberals, particularly in the larger cities.

Gay marriage is legal there. I feel compelled to demonstrate that we have a very enlightened population, and that not all of us are like the nut job fool Steve King.

He is an embarrassment to our state, but I think his chances of being voted out are slim.

Seriously, his words are quite telling. He's playing to his nutjob base. How sick is that?

"Hey! Yooo hooo! Look at me! I'm a stupid radical politician who wants to control the little ladies of America TOOOO! Why does Akin get all of the glory?!"

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:49 PM

45. I've only had a pic in my head of Iowans as a sane group of folks

particularly because of the items you have listed above. I don't know anyone who thinks Iowans are like this guy.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:47 PM

65. Iowa has given us Tom Harkin

no need to apologize for ANY of the bad stuff.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:27 PM

84. I hope like hell this may be the straw that breaks his campaign. Go Christie!

Hope she beats the crap out of him with it!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:53 PM

16. I know there is a big difference between the two ...


But it seems like they are doing the same thing as they have done with the whole global warming thing. Hey if you don't want to believe what everyone else might say, just come up with what you want.

This time in a week or so we will find out how many knuckle-dragger's there are. I don't think as much as global warming nay-sayers. Because every one wants to talk about the weather, but most folks don't really want to talk about rape.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:06 PM

19. Incredible

Just when you think they cant get any worse and just when you think the average person will catch on, there is this..What will it take to wake up these idiots?

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Response to Vietnameravet (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:42 PM

40. Welcome to DU VEV! Can you believe this craziness?

These guys are completely mad.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:06 PM

20. IA-4 is in play (currently a "Lean Republican" district); Christie Vilsack can use help

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:08 PM

21. This is also a flat out LIE..he himself has used that scenario!

He used the scenario of a 13 yr getting raped (and being kidnapped, taken across state lines and forced to get an abortion) as a defense to allow dog fighting!

So what..he uses a scenario he has never heard of happening before to defend his stance on dog fighting? Whahha?




SR

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Response to Sylvarose (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:12 PM

22. I don't know...he sounds pretty compelling...

...and intelligent speaking with that beautiful eagle in the background. I can't help but be hypnotized by his patriotism and love of our freedom, as represented by that beautiful eagle.

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Response to Sylvarose (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:43 PM

41. That's what they do...LIE. That's all they know how to do

That and their terrible memories go hand in hand.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:12 PM

23. Wow, this is what represents the morons of the world.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:13 PM

24. None personally, so when all his friends tell him about the sex they have with their daughters

there has been, as they say, no issue.

Personal experience.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:15 PM

25. Steve King DEFENDS Akin as a strong Christian man!!

Look at this article. Unbelievable. Why does this wacknut have to be from my state?

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) bucked others in his party on Tuesday, defending Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) as a "strong Christian man with a wonderful family."

Akin has faced a firestorm of criticism from fellow Republicans who have ripped his recent comments that women rarely get pregnant from "legitimate rape," with a number of them including Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (R-Texas) strongly suggesting Akin should drop out of the race for Missouri's Senate seat. Akin has so far refused to exit the race.

But King, a close friend and ally of Akin's who campaigned for him during the primary, stood by Akin's side. He told a local television station that he didn't want to give his thoughts on Akin's specific remark because he hadn't heard it in context, but attacked those who were blasting Akin as focused on "petty personal attacks."

Video of King at link--***Warning: Please have industrial-sized vomit bag present before clicking***
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/244553-steve-king-defends-todd-akin-as-a-qstrong-christian-manq

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:16 PM

26. How logical! America, your leaders are on display!

Just because King Moron didn't see it, it just doesn't happen. Progressives on TV are saying that there were 32,000 pregnancies due to rape each year--rather frequent, don't you think?

This abstract gives the 32,000 number:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8765248

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Response to Democrats_win (Reply #26)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:46 PM

43. There you go bringing SCIENCE into things!

Republicans have their own brand of magical thinking they call science. Besides, that is gubmint-funded science...the worst kind for their ilk's belief system.

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Response to Democrats_win (Reply #26)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:20 PM

57. All 32,000 of those women enjoyed it and had orgasms - that's why they got pregnant.



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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #57)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:33 PM

85. Very much the medieval view of this

Good article in the Guardian on some of the history of that:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-h-word/2012/aug/20/legitimate-rape-medieval-medical-concept

Another good piece on this here (which is where I found the link to the Guardian article):
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-akin-rape-20120820,0,5778696.story

One wonders which doctors Akin has been consulting; apparently, it's the kind who wear cowls on their heads and spend most of their time swirling urine samples around in a flask in search of black bile and other ill humors. Deep in the Middle Ages, it was thought that women could only conceive if they had an orgasm -- thus, it followed that if a woman enjoyed the intercourse, she couldn't possibly have been raped. Vanessa Heggie in The Guardian traced the legal theory generated by this philosphy back to 13th century England and a very early legal text called "Fleta," which states, "If, however, the woman should have conceived in the time alleged in the appeal, it abates, for without a woman's consent she could not conceive."

The pro-life set apparently has a more modern take on this idea, but its scientific illegitimacy -- and the stunning degree to which it denigrates women and rape victims -- remain pretty obvious. Nonetheless, Akin will probably survive the controversy. But that's still not what's scary about this story.

Akin has retracted his statement via Tweet, which won't stop his opponent, incumbent Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, from continuing to hammer him for it. Yet McCaskill is up against deep-seated voter anger at incumbents, and until recently Akin was leading her by several percentage points in the polls. His religious conservative backers won't be bothered in the least by his statements on rape, which for them only enhance his anti-abortion credentials. The Missouri race will remain one of the most closely watched Senate contests in the country, and it will likely be close in November.

So what's so scary about Todd Akin? It's that he currently sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, which oversees federal spending on non-defense-related research. This is not the kind of post for someone who thinks pregnancy can be suppressed by women's bodies. He also sits on the Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, which is not the ideal assignment for a guy who thinks that climate change, if it's happening at all, is probably a result of solar flares. This is, of course, the House the tea party built. Unless voters put a stop to this anti-science movement, the Senate could soon go the same way. Now that's a nightmare.




Scary indeed that someone with his views is in a position to create and/or block science and energy policy.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:19 PM

27. Funny - thought he was a Bible believer

Kinda hard to square fundamentalism and the inability to get pregnant from incest.

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Response to dmallind (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:47 PM

44. Yeah, they get real mad when you bring that up.

Most tell me there were other people somewhere. Of course, the Bible doesn't SAY that and if they are fundamentalists, it can't possibly be true.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:20 PM

28. Wow. I know 3 cases personally.

One had an abortion (statutory rape).

Two of them were from incest (one I consider rape). One was a girl in my church who it became known her father was molesting her because she became pregnant. The second was a brother/sister thing (ill-advised, but I don't know enough to figure out if it was rape since they were both minors).

I guess some people live a very sheltered life.

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #28)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:40 PM

38. "but I don't know enough to figure out if it was rape since they were both minors"

It was rape.

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #38)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:29 PM

111. Statutory, yes.

But you need to put that qualifier in there. Sometimes "statutory rape" is quite consensual. I have heard of a case where it was an interracial relationship between two teenagers, and the parents pressed charges because they didn't like him.

There is an awkwardness to statutory rape. Sixteen year old girls frequently know exactly what they are doing with sixteen year old boys who are acting based on gonads instead of brains. Remember, we develop faster than you...

I ***HATE*** all forms of non-consensual rape, all statutory rape of girls under 16, or statutory rape with a gap of more than 3 years. I hate how girls get taken advantage of, and convinced to have sex so that some guy will pay attention to them, or promise love. It is as though we are wired to be vulnerable. Some of us.

But I also hate girls and women who falsely accuse innocent men of rape. Once is too often. It makes it harder to prosecute criminals, and opens a can of worms to our credibility. I wish women would stop doing it. It is a very selfish act that can have lifelong consequences for an innocent man.

Rape is a very messy issue. I ALWAYS believe the woman, but I know that sometimes I am wrong.

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Response to qwlauren35 (Reply #111)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:35 AM

129. Boys can be raped too and be non-consensual "partners" in incest.

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 05:08 AM

122. The secret the kids and their kids live with

Vidor, Texas, which is not as far from nowhere as one might expect, is the national headquarters of the KKK and home to some children born of incest. I know of a few documented in medical records, in some cases when the mothers sneaked away to take sick kids to the doctor. I mention Vidor in particular because it is an easy target for stereotyping. The cases you mentioned are more evidence that children of incest are born everywhere, not just strange places people can't find on a map. King is a bonehead, but he has stirred up questions that people may not want to think about.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:20 PM

29. ???

So what does he believe then, that a female's body knows the age of consent in her state and "blocks the pregnancy" if she's below it?

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Response to drm604 (Reply #29)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:34 PM

37. Well, I would guess that's why they are trying to redefine rape

because they don't want more of their ilk added to the armchair subversive website.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:22 PM

30. Wow, he's talking through his hole, too

and not the one he shoves cake into.

Personally, I hope these right wing ignoranuses (not a typo) keep on talking because every time they open their yaps about the fantasy world they live in, more and more women realize just where the Republican Party is in terms of representing their interests and just how loony it's gotten over the last 30 years.

This is why we desperately need sex education in the schools, taught by school nurses or someone else with actual education in the process. These jokers are so obviously the product of no sex education except what they heard from their equally ignorant teenaged buddies when they were growing up.

The only excuse for the ignorance displayed by Republican men is the fact that their fathers and mothers fought so hard against getting them the information they needed when they needed it, to drown out the male culture nonsense they were getting from other teenagers. Now we're reaping the harvest from that carefully sown ignorance and it's an ugly one.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:24 PM

31. The Magical Mysterious Vagina Can Prevent Pregnancy When it WANTS to

Brought to you by people who believe climate change is a hoax, the earth is 6,000 years old, Jesus had a pet dinosaur and Obama's mother traveled to Kenya 9 months pregnant in August of 1961 to give birth in a grass yurt.

Nothing they say surprises me anymore. SMH

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Response to PossumSqueezins (Reply #31)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:33 PM

36. I mentioned something similar to this on a FB page where the fundies

(all women, in fact) were trying to say this was true. No comments after I mentioned this could be added to a similar list of Republican "science".

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Response to PossumSqueezins (Reply #31)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:14 PM

74. "magical mysterious vagina"

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:27 PM

32. What are the odds of this fucking moron being re-elected?

Honestly. I've never heard such dumb shit spew out of the mouths of one political party in all of my life. And I'm not old. This kind of bullshit annoys me to no end.

*sorry for the language. i'm just beyond furious right now*

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Response to cabot (Reply #32)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:19 PM

77. South

Well in the south were I live the odds are pretty damn good...


I have already had several people defend him in my hearing....

Makes me want to puke!!!!

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Response to janlyn (Reply #77)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:17 PM

110. He is from IOWA

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:30 PM

33. Maybe he PERSONALLY didn't hear of it before now

so he's not really lying. Promulgating a myth the Republicans like very much, but not LYING per se.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:31 PM

34. The Stoopids hurt my head!!!!!!!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:32 PM

35. He's never heard of it? He's stupid and dense and willfully deaf and forgetfull and ignorant. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:40 PM

39. If he believes what he says, I've got a bridge to sell him. n/t

Unbelievable how the Republicans can say such idiotic things and people believe them.

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Response to kiranon (Reply #39)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:20 PM

56. Sadly, mostly uneducated people are their fans, and they continue to influence education in this

country because of the takeover by them of local school boards, county clerks of court who control the central tabulators for vote counting, state senators, etc., a lot of which elections are bought or influenced by wealthy donations, or just plain stolen. Though education is the key to understanding, they have convinced their constituency that the educated are bleeding heart liberals that speak lies. Changing the books our children study is a prime example. Almost all of it published in Texas by rich corporatists. If they don't like the facts, they simply change them. They have taken over by one small election at a time, as the Chinese have taken over by one acre at a time. This country is in trouble, thanks to the rich, not the educated. I know, for talking to the typical republican is like talking to a brick wall; their pat answer being, "Both parties lie.", and disseminate; well, they don't ever use the word "disseminate, but you get my drift.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:46 PM

42. Does this man live in a closet without modern communication...or is he deaf

and close minded to anything that offends him?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:50 PM

46. It must be nice living under a rock.

What does he think? If he hasn't heard about it, it doesn't happen?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:51 PM

47. God in heaven, they don't even hide their hatred for women anymore

If you aren't white, rich, male or a female apologist like Dr. Laura, Laura Ingraham, Tammy Bruce or Man Hands Ann. . .These people make me physically ill.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:51 PM

48. A closed mouth gathers no feet...

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:52 PM

49. Someone needs to educate that idiot. Not only do pregnancies through incest occur, the

instance of babies with physical or mental problems is higher with said babies. Good grief, just about a year ago a story made national news about a girl being imprisoned by her father for years and she had 3 kids to him.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:55 PM

50. No egg = no pregnancy

What is so difficult for these men to understand about that? An adult woman does not ovulate 365 days a year. Pre-pubescent girls do not ovulate at all. Post menopausal women to do not ovulate at all. Women already taking birth control do not ovulate. A rape victim, who has not ovulated and takes the Morning After Pill, will not ovulate.

A friend of mine was 12 years old when she was raped back in the 60s. She was a child and didn't get pregnant. Why? Her parents took her to a hospital where she was given mega doses of contraceptives, so she won't ovulate. Thus no pregnancy. Yes, even before the so called Morning After Pill.

BTW, my friend's father would have killed the rapist of his daughter. If any legislator said that his little girl had to give birth to that rapist baby, this father have killed them too. Of course that would never have happened, because my friend told me that she would have committed suicide. She was suicidal for many years just from the RAPE, never mind a forced pregnancy from it.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:11 PM

52. The depth of ignorance is just breathtaking.

and almost beyond belief. Almost.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:13 PM

53. This man needs to spend some time with social workers who

deal with child abuse. Horrors!

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #53)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:03 AM

118. You can be sure that'll never happen.

One doesn't get to be as pig-ignorant as this guy is by accident. It takes a lot of work. People like this go to great lengths to avoid learning anything that might contradict what they believe.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:18 PM

55. Idiocracy is truly upon us

Each day the pronouncements from the Republicans get stupider and stupider. I feel bad for his constituents in his district, especially the ones who didn't vote for this idiot. To the ones who did, you voted for him, you've got the representation you deserve. Now live with it. For the good of the people he represents, he should resign or be recalled. Unfortunately, neither will happen and we will witness the further erosion of intelligent and decent representation by those who pretend to represent us.

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Response to Harry Monroe (Reply #55)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:16 PM

101. "idiocracy"---did you coin that term? It's GRRREEEAAATTT

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Response to wordpix (Reply #101)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:15 PM

109. Download or rent the movie "Idiocracy"

And tell me we are not headed in that direction real fast!! The movie seems stupid, but it is really a foreshadowing of things to come. It's prophetic, IMHO.

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Response to Harry Monroe (Reply #109)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 05:12 AM

123. The movie takes place 500 years in the future.

Yet we are watching it happen before our very eyes.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:21 PM

58. I don't personally know of any

women who've gotten pregnant from incest either. And isn't statutory rape defined by the age of the female, and varies from state to state?

But I don't believe that women don't get pregnant from either of those things. I just haven't known of it personally.

And while, statistically speaking, those things may be rare, they still happen. King is an idiot. I often think that having a penis makes a person stupid.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #58)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:32 PM

62. Hey, hey hey. I don't like your last sentence!!

As a penis-wearing human, I take offense!! Though I can understand why you feel that way!!

On behalf of all men here at DU, may I take this opportunity to apologize for Senator King? He is certainly not representative of my gender!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:24 PM

60. Lemme get my clue-by-four

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:26 PM

61. What does he consider "statutory rape?"

That is a weird comment. Isn't that consensual sex with someone under the legal age for that locale?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #61)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:52 PM

69. I think there's a whole lotta teh stoopid goin' on around here

As you point out, King apparently doesn't understand the difference between "forcible" (sic) rape and "statutory" (sic) rape, the latter being consensual sex when one party is under the legal age of consent.

However, even King's spokesperson isn't able to articulate the doofus's position clearly -OR- the TPM reporter is unable to write clearly:

Lesser said “of course” King is aware that girls have been impregnated by statutory rape or incest, and said King supports people who have not been forcibly raped receiving federal abortion coverage under a rape exemption.

“That’s a given for anybody who understands pro-life legislation,” Lesser said.



Is this to be taken to mean that King supports the rights of women who are pregnant but whose pregnancies are not the result of forcible rape to end those pregnancies via federally funded abortions?


MY RANT FOLLOWS:

No means no, and it's really a very simple proposition.

No death penalty means no death penalty. Not for the most heinous of crimes. Not for child murder. Not for mass murder with torture. Not for anything. No means no. Living with the consequences of a no death penalty policy means no innocent person will ever be put to death. It just won't happen. A wrongful conviction can be overturned and some effort made at restitution, but you can't overturn a death penalty once it's carried out. No means no.

No means no, and when it comes to sex, it's really a very simple proposition. No matter when it's said and no matter who says it and no matter what's been said beforehand, if one person says no, then it means no. No sex, no cajoling, no whines, no excuses. No means no. The consequences of living with a no means no sex policy means you do without for the moment, for the evening, for however long, but you can still have sex again, either with that person at another time or with someone else. You don't have to face the guilt and recriminations and even the prosecution for forcing the issue. No means no, and it can be lived with.

If the woman-hating, life-hating, misogynistic theoloons who keep harping on abortion were really against it, then they would simply state no means no. No abortion, not ever, not under any circumstances. And then they would have to live with the consequences -- that innocent women would die, that abortions would still happen but perhaps unsafely, that children would be born unwanted, unloved and perhaps even so physically challenged as to have no quality of life or no life at all. Rapists would assert parental rights, and could enforce them. Eventually, rape would no longer be a crime at all, unless perhaps a crime against the male who owns the female property.

Todd Akin, Steve King, and all your like-minded imbecile friends: Eat shit. You don't have to die, just eat shit.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:37 PM

63. I wish I could say the same, but I used to work with foster kids.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:49 PM

66. Get a brain moran

idgit

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:50 PM

67. Well, then. That settles it, you self-important know-it-all bag of wind.

Add this one to the ever-growing list of Republican idiots who continue the War Against Women.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:50 PM

68. King should just sit down and close his damn pie hole.

Another idiot, with no sense of reality.
Is he running again too? He should be pounding the pavement, not making our laws.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:54 PM

70. That fuck is an embarassment to Iowa

I wish he'd shut the hell up for once.

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Response to 47of74 (Reply #70)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:19 PM

94. Allow me to fix that for you:

That fuck is an embarrassment to the United States of America.

And yes, it'd be awfully nice if he'd shut his piehole.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:57 PM

71. Wow! What a way to keep the story alive! They're doing our work for us!

Thank you mr king! You're a true 'thug!

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #71)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:58 AM

125. Self Destruct

For months now I've been getting the impression that the Republicans are trying to lose this November. The "I'm more conservative than you are" ploy, the gentler version of the "Night of the Long Knives" primary and obvious subordination of government to corporations has got to be hurting not just the Republican chances of winning the election, but surviving it.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:59 PM

72. He's a liar

Either he lied in his original statement

and/or he's lying about what he "actually" meant.


Probably both.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:00 PM

73. Why is he making such obviously untrue statements? Is he that ignorant? What does gain from such

claims? Votes? Who would vote for such an idiot? It's one thing to say he doesn't believe in abortion in such cases, an opinion which I disagree, but to say he doesn't believe that a child can become pregnant from incest or statutory rape is UNSINN.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:15 PM

75. He can't even believe that's true

I don't think he could even believe that.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:16 PM

76. Steve, maybe you're such an asshole no one wants to bring a personal thing like that up with you

I'd say the empirical evidence favors my interpretation.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:19 PM

78. Voter Fraud?

Zero instances warrants legislation. It's rampant they say.

Rape or incest babies?

Where?

Stupid bastards.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:21 PM

79. Isn't that where that

dumbfuck came from, his mother and father were brother and sister.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:22 PM

80. It's good that this is all coming out in the open now.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:24 PM

81. Go Republicans!

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

82. I guess he

has never heard of Jaycee Dugard.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

83. Why would they have to bring it to you personally?

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:37 PM

86. Well, I've never personally known anyone named Steve and Janice making a baby,

so it must not be possible.

WTF?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:38 PM

87. So just for a little clarity....

Is Rep. King suggesting that rape is an acceptable form of birth control?

If so, I have a size thirteen boot I'd like to stick up his ass.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:03 PM

88. RepublicansForRape.org



What's the BIG DEAL?? REPUBLICANSforRAPE.org lists the pictures and names of 30 GOP senators who voted against Al Franken's anti-rape amendment to the 2010 military appropriations bill (which passed anyway and was signed into law by anti-rape president Obama). Rape is one of the EIGHT TRADITIONAL FORMS OF BIBLICAL MARRIAGE approved by god and accepted as true by Republicans... see Deuteronomy 22: 28-29 for detailed instructions: ONLY if you get caught raping a virgin of any age outside the city, THEN you pay her poppa $50 of silver shekels and THEN you bought you a wife who has to put out and do your laundry and cook your dinner and have your kids without socialized medicine. And a rapist could have as many rape-wives as he wanted to buy, because polygamy was also one of the REPUBLICAN APPROVED EIGHT FORMS OF BIBLICAL TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE. The rapist only had to pay for the ones that he got caught in the act raping, "legitimate" rape, not those he-said-she-said disputed rapes where she was probably asking for it.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:32 PM

89. I guess the victims didn't have their Ipana Invisible Shield.



For those of us old enough to remember, Ipana was a toothpaste advertised in the 1960s.

&feature=relmfu

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #89)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:49 PM

112. I think you're confusing old commercial

(Jack Rabbit is a grey hare)

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:56 PM

90. Surprise?

Isn't that how Republicans do research. If they haven't heard of it, it didn't happen.
If they heard of it, it is fact.
If it didn't come from Fox, it never happened.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:58 PM

91. Religious right: too fucking stupid to hold public office n/t

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:02 PM

92. Is this guy trying to top himself for idiocy every time he speaks?

He obviously doesn't get out much.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:30 PM

95. JASIR

Just another stupid idiot Repugnant, ignoring reality at all costs in favor of pushing a political point of view.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:43 PM

96. Thats because you, steve, think women are not worth being listened to or believed

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:02 PM

97. My grandma got pregnant at age 15.

Her parents had already decided she was going to be a nun, when my grandfather came into town one day. He was 18 and had a car, and well..... 9 months later my mom was born! Today that would be statutory rape, back then it was a shotgun wedding.

And then there's my younger brother, who knocked up a 15 yr old when he was 22. Suffice to say he's the black sheep of the family. That is also statutory rape, and he was damn lucky her mom decided not to file charges.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:16 PM

98. Within a week or so this will be a Republican talking point

the nuttier the position they adopt, the more people vote for them. There is absolutely nothing that Hate Radio and Fox News can't convince their minions of.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:18 PM

99. My great-grandfather is

both the father and grandfather of his daughter's daughter. Call me, Mr. King, and I will tell you the whole sick story, you doucherocket.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:15 PM

100. The mind boggles at these medieval beliefs

It's up there with all of the other things the GOP wants to believe. They never let science get in their way.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:20 PM

103. RR - the Republic Rape Party for Rmoney-Ryan

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:30 PM

105. Maybe King's mother is also his aunt.

Maybe his daddy is also his grandpa. It might explain the brain malfunction.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:01 PM

106. My grandmother was born in 1886

When her daughter (my mother) married in 1942, Grandmother told her that the way to avoid pregnancy was to just "hold back and don't enjoy it". The fact that my mother laughed at her shows the progress in the study of women's health even at that time.

Oh, yes, Grandmother had 8 children. We could speculate all day on what that might have meant.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:21 PM

113. Akin, King and anyone who thinks rape can not lead to pregnancy is an idiot.

These people certainly shouldn't be crafting healthcare laws. They're just too stupid.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:38 AM

114. Any pregnant 9-10 year old was raped, cause guys don't get fertile until around 12-14---and that


is rape. Not counting the victims of incest rape.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:39 AM

115. By Kingshit's logic, raping him is impossible....Pass him around at Anamosa

and lets see if his *ahem* horizons are widened. These rancid, soulless, inbred fucks would claim even the Penn state rape victims were not really raped; after all, no conception occurred. Same for the overwhelmingly GOP child-molester brigades who rape their own siblings, children, and relations.

Baaa still means No, dipshit.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:14 AM

116. Spam deleted by Warren DeMontague (MIR Team)

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:35 AM

117. The name Noah ring any bells, Sparky?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:45 AM

119. ...because he always kills his victims?

"If you done it right, she aint gon have no baby nur turn ya in ta the law."

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 03:16 AM

120. Steve King has never read the Bible I guess.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 04:36 AM

121. Keep digging, misogynist republicans.

Because you're not FAKE "pro-life" because you claim to care about a fetus, you're anti-female and wish to punish women for having sex.

If you really were "pro-life", you'd be pushing for single-payer and a right to health care.

The republican party as a whole are pro-rape.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:47 AM

124. Bobby Darin..

was raised by his grandmother and thought his mother was his sister.
Does King live at a level that he never heard of a shotgun wedding of a young girl who was made pregnant by her older "boyfriend"? Most of those marriages that I have encountered never turn out happy or contented.
I know some people in NW Iowa and know that they are not crazy like King so I wonder how he suppressed the vote to be elected.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:16 AM

126. Never heard of it? He sounds like he's a product of incest. He should ask his mother.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:58 AM

127. This reminds me of the school yard punk that refused to admit he's wrong...

and will go to great lengths to weave a bizarre tail of insanity to "prove" he's right.

it appears to be a genetic flaw in repukes to ever admit they are wrong.

We could us that to our advantage.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:26 AM

128. "Of course, it is a little hard to hear because of the echo."

"Did I mention I keep my head up my ass?"

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 11:28 AM

130. You can't make this shit up!

Let the GOP free fall continue. Finally showing the whole world what they truly think!

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