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Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:51 PM

Republican Senate Nominee: Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

Source: Talking Points Memo

Republican Senate Nominee: Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant

Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri who is running against Sen. Claire McCaskill, justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses that prevent pregnancy.

“First of all, from what I understand from doctors (pregnancy from rape) is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Akin said that even in the worst-case scenario — when the supposed natural protections against unwanted pregnancy fail — abortion should still not be a legal option for the rape victim.

“Let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work, or something,” Akin said. “I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:56 PM

1. OMG! The STYOO-PID of some people........It boggles the mind!

And this moron wants to be a Senator.............

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:59 PM

5. and the polling seems to show that he will be....

 

Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:00 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

The PollTracker Average shows Akin leading McCaskill by a margin of 49.7 percent to 41.3 percent.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:44 PM

39. Then McCaskill should take a really hard look at her staff and start replacing people

right down to her campaign manager...Now ..This guy is like a ...............

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:46 PM

40. Time to tell the women of Missouri about Mr. Akin

.... because this should peal away a # of female voters but Missouri
has # of fundy female voters.




How soon till we get a "I am sorry if somebody was offended by what I
said" or a "I was taken out of context" quote.

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Response to Botany (Reply #40)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:48 PM

43. He is just creepy looking.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:40 PM

68. Well

That indicates that Missouri is filled with knuckle dragging, mysoginistic, asshats...that and the religious fanatics...sorry I repeated myself.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #68)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:17 PM

81. Missouri has got 'em

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #68)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:24 PM

98. +1000

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #68)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:12 PM

139. My gosh, I have witnessed the "dumbing down" of Americans

but this is surreal. It is so hard to fathom that anyone of "average intelligence" could actually allow this idiot to espouse such nonsense. To actually elect him as your Senator is beyond comprehension.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:53 AM

129. Yeah, but those polls were taken before this remark was made

Look again in a couple of weeks. If they're still the same, then you can say that he'll probably be a senator.

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:30 PM

29. Well, Inhofe and DeMint are already senators

And they call this the world's most exclusive club? Ha!!

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:05 AM

125. some facebook comments

Most of them are like this:


Mercy Garetz This guy is about to be eyeball deep in female fury. Have fun with that, bro'fo!

THen two from this guy:

Tony Robinson
I think there is some scary truth to this man's point and yet there is some ignorance here. While the woman can discourage penile penetration with their bodies, it is something a woman had to completely focus on, using uncommon muscles. The
scary part of this is how can a woman use these muscles when her focus is not necessarily go keep him out but to stay alive. Also, because the underlining act is natural, its really confusing when/ if a person have any kind of sexual stimulation from it. Unless you are completely in tune with your body and prepare yourself to be raped, the body itself is not the defense, but the mind, which is either strong or not. Like when children get molested, it leaves all sorts of confusions.


Tony Robinson They say a woman's body kills off sperm naturally. She is focused on what she's doing with her partner. I think in a rape situation, she is more apt to become pregnant she's mentally am not one with her body.

5 minutes ago via mobile · Like.








Hoohah: you are now faced, Missouri with a very public IQ test. Vote for him and seal the impression this asshat started or show us you have a three digit mentality. Honestly, you deserve him if he wins.

name redacted because its mine: Tony Robinson, you have lost your mind. Truly, seek help. And I truly your next life is female.








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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:59 PM

2. WTH? Is this guy now a doctor, too?

WTH is "legitimate rape". Is there an 'illigetimate rape'? This guy is a certifiable nut case.

If he has any chance of winning, MO will be another state on my list of 'no fly zone' states. I wouldn't feel safe around anyone voting for this clown.

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:22 PM

24. ‘Legitimate Rape’

THAT is the line that the Dems need to run with...and hammer...over and over and over...with the guy's picture attached.

Get a clue Dems...this slime bag has given you a grand opportunity.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #24)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:56 PM

121. Local news is running with it.

They've announced it as the top story at 10 o'clock, calling him on the teaser by name and referring to it as a "disturbing" comment on one station.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:41 PM

141. "Legitimate Rape" is DogWhistle for "Women lie about rape"

this prick's a real example of edumacation in the Bible Belt.

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:48 PM

74. 'juices don't flow"

yep an elected official in nc actually said that... So if a woman gets pregnant, she wanted it....

yep, that's what they are saying...

and yet, women will vote for him

scary

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Response to bluemarkers (Reply #74)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:54 PM

118. OK, that kind of stuff

is BEYOND scary....

We are in total sci-fi mode here now.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:59 PM

3. That's an old lie promoted by the same old people.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:01 PM

6. Like you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex...

 

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:03 PM

9. That old myth is harmful, but the one about rape is much worse.

By saying that women don't get pregnant "if it is really rape" they are saying that any woman who becomes pregnant as the result of a rape wasn't really raped. They're saying that she's both a slut and a liar, in other words.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:59 PM

4. What rock did they find him under?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:02 PM

7. I think this idiot needs a biology lesson

As does the whole of the republican party.

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Response to canuckledragger (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:05 PM

12. That scene in "Deliverance" comes to mind

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It was the first rape scene I had seen in any theater where the entire male audience was totally quiet. For some reason, guys could whistle, laugh, talk to each other etc if it was a female rape victim portrayed in film (yawn) but when Ned Beatty was afflicted, it was very different.

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:09 PM

14. I think it was too brutal...

 

no lube!

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Response to canuckledragger (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:09 PM

94. I don't think it would help...

they think women should be kept in their place and keep their mouths shut. And if she was raped, she was probably asking for it.

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Response to canuckledragger (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:06 AM

130. Republicans have rejected the legitimacy of the biological sciences,

as well as the legitimacy of climate science. And when it comes to economics, they reject the legitimacy of arithmetic.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:03 PM

8. What the hell

is legitimate rape??!! Where are they getting these people?!!

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Response to Third Doctor (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:46 PM

120. "legit"? Prob. Akins thinks it is not date rape, not spousal rape, & only violent stranger rape.

He probably means "legitimate" as in "a legitimate accusation of a bona fide crime with incontrovertible prima facie evidence that can't be overlooked resulting in an open-and-shut case probably with a guilty plea".

I think his hidden assumptions are that on a date "no" means "maybe" or "yes", and that by definition husbands can't rape wives because the wife will only make false accusations in a divorce case. That was his reasoning in debates about a spousal rape law (it seems he ended up voting for it after all).

It seems he thinks that if a raped woman gets pregnant it is because there was some kind of attraction to the rapist and some kind of assent to the rape, making it a non-rape.

Of course it is all bullshit, especially the bogus bit about doctors telling him stuff about rape and pregnancy.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:04 PM

10. Basic human physiology FAIL.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:05 PM

11. I would like to know the name of the doctor(s) who told him about this 'shut-down' thing...


If this jackass can't/won't furnish the names...he is a LIAR.


Tikki

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Response to Tikki (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:56 PM

122. Agreed. This needs to be hit hard.

Have him provide doctors willing to support his claim.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:09 PM

13. Astounding

I'm speechless.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:11 PM

15. and republicans wonder why they have trouble getting the female vote?

Pregnancies Resulting from Rape

In 2004-2005, 64,080 women were raped. According to medical reports, the incidence
of pregnancy for one-time unprotected sexual intercourse is 5%. By applying the pregnancy
rate to 64,080 women, RAINN estimates that there were 3,204 pregnancies as a result of
rape during that period.

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:16 PM

16. OK, so maybe it wasn't a real doctor...

or even someone who played one on TV...

but they did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

Ok, it turns out it was a "Motel 6"...

Well, it used to be a Motel 6...


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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:17 PM

17. a classic case of "a little learning is a dang'rous thing":

what is true is that the odds of becoming pregnant from a single vaginal ejaculation (regardless of consent or violence involved) is actually rather low, as any couple having difficulty getting pregnant can attest. the statistics for birth control typically give the percentage likelihood of getting pregnant over the course of an ENTIRE YEAR.

so the chance of a rape leading to a pregnancy is indeed low, but it has ZERO to do with it being rape as opposed to consensual sex. there are no special defenses involved.

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Response to unblock (Reply #17)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:52 PM

105. My wife and I got pregnant the 1st time for all 3 kids

Low likelihood is not no likelihood

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Response to TrogL (Reply #105)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:01 AM

124. nice aim!

on the flip side, it took mrs. unblock and i 4 years to get one kid!



as far as rape is concerned, the probability question is rather beside the point as far as public policy goes. it's possible, and more to the point it does happen. legislators have to address the situation whether it happens to 500 people a year or 500,000.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:17 PM

18. wonder

if he was reading a milftoon (quasi legal) where it says the drawings depict kids over 18.... but the mother is like totally a bab and tells the kid after he's cumming... oh don't worry son, I can't get pregnant from someone your age. Say everyone knows thats a joke as in dumb mom.

Alas we have someone here who seems to be the literal definition of a dumb blond. X_X not that blonds are dumb.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:18 PM

19. I remember reading that Jessie Helms believed that a woman could not get pregnant unless

she had an orgasm. And so - if she got pregnant when raped, she must have had an orgasm - so she wasn't raped because she obviously enjoyed it.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #19)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:18 PM

21. ...and non-witches SINK when tossed into water...witches came to the top of the water.

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Same line of thinking, I would say.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #19)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:32 PM

101. ...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:18 PM

20. Love the Fetus...Hate the Child

SO Mr. Creep...address this straight to the face and in the eyes of your...wife, mother, sisters...and tell them, you have
that baby after you were RAPED!

Another cold hearted, slime bag Thug, Bully and BAGGER Party member.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #20)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:17 PM

96. You forgot...

hate the woman

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #96)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:46 PM

103. Opps...my mistake

They hate everything and everybody except the fetus.

Well except the KKKoch Brothers, KKKarl Rove and $$$$$$$$$$$$.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:20 PM

22. How does he survive from day to day being that stupid?

You just know someone is shadowing him each day, to prevent him from walking into traffic.

Of course, if he was legitimately run over by a car, his body's unnamed biological defenses would kick in and prevent him from being injured.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:20 PM

23. These men hate women.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:23 PM

25. All I can say,

if they vote for him, they will get the the Senator they deserve.

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Response to NOLALady (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:34 PM

60. Maybe the Senator they deserve, but........

they are imposing their Senator on all of us.

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Response to NOLALady (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:23 PM

97. And the rest of us?

Wadwedo to deserve the likes of him? Remember this is a federal position, US Senate, that he is running for.

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Response to NOLALady (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:58 PM

106. And in a perfect world...those that voted for him would be the only ones to suffer from his

evilness..........too bad it doesn't work that way.

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Response to NOLALady (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:01 PM

123. I agree with you to a point.

But jackass Senators effect our lives too. Check out Senator TurtleDick McConnell.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:25 PM

26. You know, every time I think repukes can't get even more disgusting,

they manage to dig to new lows. This guy should be castrated.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:26 PM

27. That darned ol' illegitimate rape will get a women every time. For God's sake, how in the hell

did this guy make it to the point where he is actually running for Senate? And LEADING?

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Response to AlinPA (Reply #27)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:28 PM

100. That's what amazes me - did this guy even graduate from High School?

How can you be so stupid and misinformed and make it to that level? I am completely baffled and appalled.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #100)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:56 AM

138. How can you be so stupid and misinformed and make it to that level?

Religion.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:28 PM

28. Rapepublicans.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:31 PM

30. Why the fuck isn't this story in national haedlines today? n/t

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #30)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:17 PM

111. I have looked around...it is in the headlines..as of 7pm eastern..Sunday..

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:34 PM

31. I am the product of rape. Nice to know I don't exist.

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Response to citizen blues (Reply #31)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:20 PM

82. pay no attention to that guy...

I see you!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:34 PM

32. This calls for 101,000 banghead smilies

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:34 PM

33. What about when 3D did it ?



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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:37 PM

35. OMG there are so many stoopid people, no wonder the repukes took the House

in this

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:46 PM

42. I know you are kidding but: Snope says NO

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Response to TalkingDog (Reply #42)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:50 PM

45. Never occured to me to Snope it.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #33)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:30 AM

127. LOL

wow that baby is SO cute!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:35 PM

34. I can't believe that guy has enough brains to breathe

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his mother's natural biological shut off switch must not have worked correctly

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:39 PM

36. o...m...g

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:42 PM

37. I suppose we should be thankful ...

... he doesn't think babies come from a stork.

These people are just plain stupid. How could anyone believe such a thing?


Oh, that's right, religion.


And all the magic thinking that accompanies it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:42 PM

38. Holy Cow !!!!!!!

 

Rape is Rape and that's it. I could care less about the pregnancy issue. Rape is a crime.

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Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:50 PM

44. So if its rape, and a baby is conceived, it is deemed an "illegitimate rape?"

Does that invalidate criminal charges? A form of witch trial evidence then, where if she becomes pregnant, then it was god's will, but if not then it is a crime. Maybe a child could be made legitimate by a retroactive marriage so it was never more than a husband's right to use his wife as god sees fit. Won't be long before, "why does a witch float?"

This crop of righties are amazingly retrograde in their thinking. It would appear that the dark ages are really always only one election away.

You might believe there is a natural rational defense against ignorance as well, but clearly Mr. Akin provides evidence against such a theory. I guess if god had wanted him to think, he wouldn't have made him a republican.

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Response to spike91nz (Reply #44)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:34 PM

102. Todd also apparently believes that a woman can't get pregnant unless she has a climax in the process

And if she climaxed, she enjoyed it and so the rape was consensual, as in legitimate. Presto, legitimate rape.

I wish I were kidding.

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Response to Botany (Reply #46)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:57 PM

47. Explaining his no-exceptions policy on abortions, Akin was asked why he opposes abortion even when."

SO...no abortions.

Then how about MANDATORY sterilization for the rapist?

Eh?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:59 PM

48. AKIN

I'm not sure id Dem's know this but bill Clinton's little bill to deregulate radio in the 1990s is really backfiring re pubs have bought all small market outlets they have a stranglehold on small town america they gave up on st louis and kansas city they know they will go dem every time .THE stupid part is like bill ma her said if your on welfare,poor why would you vote re pub but the small market radio has done this very thing even people i know on food stamps will vote re pub now propaganda capitalist style

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Response to soulardbill (Reply #48)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:35 PM

63. On this board I think you'll find

that most of us are very much aware of how conservatives have bought up the radio markets.

Welcome to DU!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:59 PM

49. Are these people stupid?

 

I can't believe it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:02 PM

50. The Republican party has undergone a coup executed by the John Birch Society.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:04 PM

51. What the hell is legitimate about rape? I'm glad that idiot is not a biology teacher.

Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:05 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:13 PM

52. Attitudes like this comes from people

not learning biology in school.

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Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:13 PM

52. How does this idiot remember to breathe?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:15 PM

54. I understand being opposed to abortion

I am pro choice, but I at least understand that this is a very important issue to some. What I do not understand is attempt at the bizarre reasoning. This man simply cannot be that poorly informed to one believe what he just said and then to have stated it in an interview on a TV station, where it can be played over and over and over and over again.....

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:19 PM

55. Someone needs to get hit by a "clue-by-four."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:20 PM

56. The GOP is sooooooooo out of touch

And frickin nuts too. They just spout of chit with no sense of humanity. Hopefully this will do him in, in Missouri. I wasn't going to vote for this dumbass anyway.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:22 PM

57. It's time to make these bastards produce proof. I'm sick of their bullshit claims.

From "I paid my taxes" to "docctors told me" to every other moronic, self-serving lie that comes out of their mouths. Proof. Let's have it, or it means nothing.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:24 PM

58. 'Let's assume,' this prick has a working brain. But that'd make an ass out of both of us. No sale!

Go back to that rock you slithered out from under because fall and winter is coming, and you'll just be an unwanted varmint by that time.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:31 PM

59. This is what happens when someone believes the world works the way they believe...

...and it runs up against reality.

Republicans really believe their "god critter" creates children out of love.

This is one of the reasons Republican men put all the blame on their wives for "failing to provide them with children".

It CAN'T be because they're shooting blanks,....they're big strong manly men...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:34 PM

61. Allow me to among the first to congratulate Clair McCaskill on her re-election!


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #61)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:37 PM

66. I wish I could share your optimism.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:34 PM

62. As terrible as it sounds....

this guy will probably win in November.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:36 PM

64. Un-fucking-believable - n/t

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:37 PM

65. Update: Here is Claire McCaskill's response


Claire McCaskill
@clairecmc
As a woman & former prosecutor who handled 100s of rape cases,I'm stunned by Rep Akin's comments about victims this AM bit.ly/NahiHz


http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-senate-nominee-victims-of-legitimate-rape-do-not-get-pregnant/

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccaskill-im-stunned-by-akins-comments-about-rape




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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:38 PM

67. What the hell is "legitimate rape"?

For that matter, is there also "illegitimate rape"? IMHO, rape is rape and a crime of violence against women.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:40 PM

69. The mind wobbles.

His, I mean

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:41 PM

70. Since Logic, Science, Reason, and Human Decency aren't relevent

in their World View, offensive statements like that will go uncontested.

Fox News will always give these scumbags cover. MSM will follow like the loyal lap dogs that they are.

No offense to loyal lap dogs. Between dogs and humans, dogs are the more noble species.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:44 PM

71. Absolutely Jaw-Dropping

and it ought to be a game-changer for this race

what an opening!

and what are these unnamed biological defenses?

By his logic, these defenses do not function in illegitimate rape.

What is illegitimate rape?

Is that by a spouse, or is it the other way around, Mr. Akin?

This guy is a real bright one!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:44 PM

72. That makes it very clear to see ...

... that he is in no way qualified to make medical decisions for women.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:45 PM

73. sinking lower than that slimy space beneath the rock

I thought it was impossible for someone to sink lower than that slimy space beneath the rock but it sure looks like Akin has!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:49 PM

75. What an asswipe!!!!

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Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:56 PM

76. Claire needs to make this a political add and run it around the clock.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:59 PM

77. Rip open a women's legs, and ram that flagstaff into that womb.

"I claim this womb for the United States!"



Fuckers, all of them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:00 PM

78. And what kind of doctor, pray tell, enlightened the esteemed nominee with this crock of shit?

And just out of curiosity, if some cases of rape are "legitimate" what constitutes "illegitimate rape"?

This goes way beyond simple ignorance. This is almost criminally ignorant.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:05 PM

79. Who are these "doctors"???

How about some names Todd Akin and exactly what they said. Guess that would be a bit difficult as there surely is no real medical doctor who would say something so stupid and insensitive.

What a creep. Just when I thought they couldn't get any worse.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:17 PM

80. McCaskill needs to fight dirty.

"My opponent sounds in need of medical attention himself." Something like that. No more of this being 'stunned' by him. Fucking kick him in the balls. Metaphorically speaking.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:25 PM

83. New Update: Another response from Senator Claire McCaskill




Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) said in a statement Sunday that comments made by her Republican opponent Rep. Todd Akin about "legitimate rape" were "beyond comprehension":

"It is beyond comprehension that someone can be so ignorant about the emotional and physical trauma brought on by rape," said McCaskill. "The ideas that Todd Akin has expressed about the serious crime of rape and the impact on its victims are offensive."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccaskill-calls-akins-rape-comments-beyond-comprehension




----------

Previous response from Sen McCaskill

Claire McCaskill
@clairecmc
As a woman & former prosecutor who handled 100s of rape cases,I'm stunned by Rep Akin's comments about victims this AM bit.ly/NahiHz

http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-senate-nominee-victims-of-legitimate-rape-do-not-get-pregnant/

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccaskill-im-stunned-by-akins-comments-about-rape

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #83)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:36 PM

88. That's what I mean. A fucking wordy response does not really help.

She needs to fight dirty. Shame him, don't talk over him.

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Response to randome (Reply #88)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:39 PM

92. What the hell do you expect her to do on a Sunday, give her a bit of time. She won't let it drop.


They have to have time to put an ad together and she'll probably be on the TV tube tomorrow.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #92)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:15 AM

133. Let the deadline pass for him to get out of the race in a day or two.

If he dares stay on the ballot after the deadline to change the R candidate, then slam him!

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Response to randome (Reply #88)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:21 PM

112. No need to get in front of a runaway train.

She doesn't need to say anything else.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:26 PM

84. Todd needs a canoe trip down the MO river, so he can learn what rape feels like.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:28 PM

85. Update - Akin On ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comment: ‘I Misspoke’



Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) said late Sunday that he "misspoke" when he claimed that women who are victims of "legitimate rape" have biological defenses that fend off a pregnancy and therefore do not need legal abortion rights.

"In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year," Akin said in a statement. He promised rape victims "will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve" if he is elected.

-snip-

Copy of Akin's full released statement here: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/akin-on-legitimate-rape-comment-i-misspoke




Asshole !!!

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #85)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:37 PM

90. Problem is, that isn't just a gaffe.


He meant women frequently lie about rape. It does tell misogynists that he's one of them. Solidifying the angry male vote, Todd? I think they were already going for you.

Yes, he now talks of his deep sympathy for women who have been raped.
Tempered by his deep suspicion that they're lying about it. Somebody ask him about that.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #85)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:26 PM

99. too late....any woman who votes for this asshole...is an idiot..nt

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #85)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:50 PM

104. Dang!

...knew it!

It was SO over the top, that he got some orders from someone to try and clean this filth up.

However, He was for it...Before he was against it!

...he's still scum.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #85)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:46 PM

117. The last word says it all

He must have been standing on his head because the only thing that came out of his mouth was diarrhea

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #85)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:32 AM

137. I'm so sick of the get-out-of-jail "I-mispoke" free card.

And the media laps it up & moves on to something VP Biden says, instead.

Irresponsible fuckers every fucking one!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:31 PM

86. Retroactively abort the rapist, maybe?


Like anyone disagrees that a rapist shouldn't be punished. False dilemma here: why can't you punish the rapist and abort his handiwork? Like punishment is even relevant to the problem being discussed.

The gaffe about "legitimate rape" not only sounds bad, but it's a code word to Repubs that says he thinks women frequently lie about rape, and will lie more often to get an abortion. So, underneath there's an assumption that women are devious.

Let's see if he gains more in the misogynist male vote than he loses in the pissed off female vote. I think he already had the former, though. This will send a few more votes to McCaskill, and possibly Obama.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:37 PM

89. Why do I hear banjos when I see him?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:37 PM

91. .............

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:01 PM

93. Jesus on a pogo stick...

the stupid in this country gobsmacks me to no end.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:16 PM

95. We have a winner---make that a LOSER in the genetic race. You can't make someone this dumb

they have to be born that way.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:04 PM

107. if McCaskill's people

Know what they are doing everyone in Missouri will be calling akin 'the rape he'S and voting against him by November. If she is squeamish about exploiting the opening that akin the jackass has given her then it just confirms my negative feelings towards bluedogs

She owes it to the people of her state to defeat this cretin who is so eager to blame the victims of rape

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:07 PM

108. Article: How Todd Akin And Paul Ryan Partnered To Redefine Rape


How Todd Akin And Paul Ryan Partnered To Redefine Rape
Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/125173170


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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #108)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:22 AM

131. Interesting article and doesn't surprise me in the least -

this is all about control. These neanderthals need to be shown back to their caves.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:11 PM

109. This clown hasn't dropped out yet?

Imagine the pressure if the Democrat had said something as outrageous as this?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:15 PM

110. On googles top stories he's number two btween Assange and Syrian President Bashar al-Assa

He is so fucked.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:26 PM

113. This is a popular right wing myth.

I ran into it twenty years ago. Some guy on the street handed me an anti-choice leaflet spouting this same BS about a woman's "natural defenses" kicking in if it's a "real" rape. I told him I worked with a rape crisis center and this was BS. He was unconvinced. In his fantasy right wing world, any woman who says she became pregnant because of a rape is a liar. Even the thirteen year olds.

You can't argue with stupid like that. I can still see his smug little face, handing out this crap, spouting his BS.

Sometimes this world is a very frightening place.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:28 PM

114. You can't fix stupid

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:42 PM

115. When this idiot wins in a landslide in November,

I want all of you who have claimed that "Republicans have killed themselves by moving too far right" to come here and apologize for being so dumb.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #115)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:29 AM

126. Your apology thread will be sought in two days when he is out of the race.

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Mitt Rmoney will flush this dumb turd by morning because his V-P candidate is linked to him and together they tried to write "forcible rape" into law. Either that or Ryan goes away too overnight now. This just cost them the election, and now they have to try to salvage not getting totally flushed out of Congress too!

Remember, women vote too, and nearly one-fifth of women (18 percent) reported experiencing a completed or attempted rape at some time in their lives ((National Institute of Justice and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November 1998)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:44 PM

116. Where do

these guys come from…? “legitimate rape”

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:03 PM

119. Akin’s claim is not uncommon in conservative circles

http://guardianlv.com/2012/08/rep-todd-akins-believes-rape-rarely-causes-pregnancy-on-what-planet/

Akin’s claim is one that pops up occasionally in social conservative circles. A federal judge nominated by President Bush in the early 2000s had said similar things, as have state lawmakers in North Carolina and Pennsylvania.

Politicians and activists who espouse this view often suggest that women who haven’t been raped will claim to have been raped in order to obtain an abortion. An Idaho state lawmaker apologized earlier this year after urging doctors to make sure women who claimed they had been raped were sure of that fact.

Akin himself has suggested in the past that women may claim to be raped as a strategy during divorce proceedings.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:53 AM

128. my questions to him would have to be

when and where did you graduate from medical school with your emphasis in gynecology?
and
how would you know what "legitimate rape" does or doesn't do to the female body unless you had first hand experience in the matter?

And don't be fooled---there are idiots in the state of Missouri who have daughters, wives, mothers, aunts and nieces who are draining their bank accounts even as we speak to donate to his campaign.

it's stunning the base level of stupidity a grown man can have in 2012.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:27 AM

132. NPR. Bless their little hearts.

 

NPR reported this this morning. They felt the need to state that there was at least one scientific study that would argue against what Akin claims. This reminded me of a line from Newsroom where the Bill Mcavoy character was railing against the "biased towards fairness." of the so called "left wing press" when it comes to reporting on the tin foil hatter wing of the republican party.

"..if Republicans introduced a bill saying the earth was flat, newspapers would lead the story by saying that both major parties could not agree on the shape of the earth."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:44 AM

134. Saw it on Yahoo

This story was the headline on Yahoo a few minutes ago. He is backing away from the statement saying that he "misspoke". Too bad, so sad, Akin. You just handed McCatskill the race. Their boneheaded, scary ideaology is so deep that they have no idea how their statements appear.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:54 AM

135. "legitimate rape" ??????

sick son of a beast. really sick. stupid also, really, really, really stupid.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:09 AM

136. No words.



How does someone this fucking ignorant get elected? When is this fuck up for re-election? Does he have a challenger? I would like to contribute.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:23 PM

140. Unbelievable

Is this nation really that divided? Either the Republicans have a very low opinion of the intelligence of their constituency, or they are honestly trying to throw the election. Undecided which way to go on this.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:26 PM

142. Is this guy really that stupid?

And he sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology?

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #142)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:55 PM

143. Who is Supporting Rapists?

 

Who is Supporting or trying to protect Rapists?

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Response to MountainS (Reply #143)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:02 PM

146. I'm still trying to get past the complete ignorance of human biology

but I don't think I can ever comprehend the inexcusable disregard of human victims

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:58 PM

144. New Law (10 feet away)

 

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Just as law says "keep safe distance between vehicles" to avoid accidents.

Introduced a new law that other than family members & friends, people must stay 10 feet away from each other whether they are inside the house or outside or walking on the streets/roads

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Response to MountainS (Reply #144)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:05 PM

145. huh?

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