Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:06 PM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
Guilty As Stim: Chris Hayes Digs Up Devastating Video Of Paul Ryan Stimulus Hypocrisy
Source: Mediaite
Newly-minted vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan was already having a bad first week of running-matery when he told a reporter that he “never asked for stimulus,” only to be later confronted with letters in which he did exactly that, letters in which he extolled the job-creating virtues of stimulus funds. On Sunday morning’s Up with Chris Hayes, host Chris Hayes dug Ryan’s shovel-ready hole a little deeper with some devastating archival videos that show Ryan arguing for stimulus more forcefully than any Democrat. With the Romney/Ryan ticket already losing the fight they knew they were going to have, they needed this stimulus story like they needed a knife in their Granny’s necks. When Ryan told an Ohio TV reporter that he “never asked for stimulus,” however, he opened a can of worms the size of Cleveland. Ryan also told that local reporter that he “opposed the stimulus because it doesn’t work.” As it turned out, Ryan had secured tens of millions of dollars in stimulus funds by writing letters praising the program. Ryan’s office explained that he was just trying to help some of his constituents out…with something that he says “doesn’t work.” That’s pretty bad, but “a constituent made me do it” is the kind of answer that might satisfy people, especially the Ryan-enthralled mainstream media. Enter Chris Hayes, who set the table with a 2010 clip of Ryan blasting “borrow and spend” policies as a failed experiment, followed by some Bush-era clips of Ryan forcefully advocating for those exact kinds of policies, while also acknowledging that unemployment often drags on in a recovery. The fact that Paul Ryan is making arguments in these clips that could serve as campaign ads for President Obama isn’t the most surprising thing about these clips, though: -snip- Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/guilty-as-stim-chris-hayes-digs-up-devastating-video-of-paul-ryan-stimulus-hypocrisy/ Video at the link. The 2002 video of Ryan also shows Ryan arguing for an extension of unemployment benefits and health insurance. Ryan said then that even those concerned about the deficit should support the stimulus because the stimulus bill consisted of "time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions" which will help the economy. And after that speech on the floor of the House, Ryan returned to Wisconsin for a town hall where he told his constituents, "You have to spend a little to grow a little. What we're trying to do is stimulate that part of the economy that's on its back."
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| highplainsdem | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| avebury | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| Lunabelle | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| KILL THE WISE ONE | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| Scuba | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| HangOnKids | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| Scuba | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| KansDem | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| Stuart G | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| mopinko | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| highplainsdem | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| Stuart G | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| cr8tvlde | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| Stardust | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| cr8tvlde | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| Stardust | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| wordpix | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| NYC Liberal | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| efhmc | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| highplainsdem | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| efhmc | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| SoapBox | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| Rosa Luxemburg | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| cr8tvlde | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| iamthebandfanman | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| Dont call me Shirley | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| cstanleytech | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| madrchsod | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| bushisanidiot | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| ashling | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| vinny9698 | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| eppur_se_muova | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| mwb970 | Aug 2012 | #32 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:07 PM
avebury (2,934 posts)
1. K&R nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:13 PM
Lunabelle (433 posts)
2. More GOP hypocrisy
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Doesn't really surprise me.
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Response to Lunabelle (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:13 PM
KILL THE WISE ONE (1,120 posts)
19. But Hypocrisy has never hurt a GOP candidate.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:13 PM
Scuba (26,699 posts)
3. So government spending is good when a Repuke is in charge, bad when a Dem is in charge, and...
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... Paul Ryan is a deceitful, lying weasel.
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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:18 PM
HangOnKids (2,487 posts)
5. I Believe The Term For Ryan Is Shit-Weasel
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DUer Bravo11 coined it for Cantor but it fits Ryan so very well.
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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #5)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:32 PM
Scuba (26,699 posts)
9. I like it. Describes him to a Tee.
Response to Scuba (Reply #3)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:31 PM
KansDem (24,326 posts)
22. You got half of it!
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Also:
Deficits are good when a Repuke is in charge, bad when a Dem is in charge. From last year: "Reagan," Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House. After all, while Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt and George W. Bush doubled it again, each Republican was rewarded with a second term in office. But as the Gallup polling data show, concern over the federal deficit hasn't been this high since Democratic budget balancer Bill Clinton was in office. All of which suggest the Republicans' born-again disdain for deficits ranks among the greatest - and most successful - political double-standards in recent memory. --more-- http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/reagan-proved-deficits-dont-matter |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:14 PM
Stuart G (7,668 posts)
4. too bad... what do you think of that???? Let us hear it for Chris Hayes...Ryan double liar...nt.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:25 PM
mopinko (39,647 posts)
6. stunning.
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they should just put this out as an ad.
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Response to mopinko (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:28 PM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
7. +1,000,000. That old video of Ryan is perfect for Democratic campaign ads.
Response to mopinko (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:51 PM
Stuart G (7,668 posts)
14. Don't worry ...it will be an ad...it will be...nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:30 PM
cr8tvlde (1,171 posts)
8. The "old" Romney and Ryan, as shown by video,
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sound like Democrats, Blue Dogs, perhaps, but Democrats just the same. Amazing. They have both had to "change their stripes", some would say, sold their souls, for a shot at the big Presidential Prize. It's hard to be a political candidate in the age of file/archive video, instant Twitter, etc.
The Republicans must have lost their collective minds ... a Mormon and an Atheist ... neither they or families in any military service ... no foreign-policy experience, former left-centrists ... having to learn the "talking points" in public. I predict a lot will just stay home...hopefully at least enough to offset the voter ID mess. |
Response to cr8tvlde (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:47 PM
Stardust (2,451 posts)
13. Isn't Ryan a Roman Catholic? Or does his soulmate's atheist avowal transfer onto him? nt
Response to Stardust (Reply #13)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:33 PM
cr8tvlde (1,171 posts)
17. From what I'm reading, he may be a CINO.
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The Nuns don't like him, certain of the Bishops have strongly nixed his plan and another mentioned he "started taking his children to Mass".
After watching tape of him on the House Floor advocating for human services such as unemployment and federal stimulus as a jobs program, etc., then his more current Ayn Rand video and actions, he's starting to look downright schizophrenic, as opposed to Mitt, the Flip-Flopper. |
Response to cr8tvlde (Reply #17)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:01 AM
Stardust (2,451 posts)
29. He probably is a CINO (ha! I love that!). He does indeed appear to be schizophrenic. And they're
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both definitely sociopaths. I feel like we are living in 1933 Germany.
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Response to cr8tvlde (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:55 PM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
15. same as McCain last time around
Response to cr8tvlde (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:27 PM
NYC Liberal (15,599 posts)
25. I think it's the opposite.
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They aren't pandering now. They were pandering then, and now we're hearing what they really think.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:35 PM
efhmc (9,595 posts)
10. Can't get it to play.
Response to efhmc (Reply #10)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:43 PM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
11. It's working. It's the second image in the article, and follows the first four paragraphs. There's
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a photo of the Ryan video next to the first paragraph, but that one is just a photo.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:46 PM
SoapBox (5,812 posts)
12. He was for it...Before he was against it.
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More Thug, Bully and Bagger blah, blah, blah.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:23 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (21,990 posts)
16. Great TV ad!
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:41 PM
cr8tvlde (1,171 posts)
18. Rachel Maddow, as usual, has done her homework and...
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the video results on her site ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc-rachel_maddow_show ... are a stunning example of investigative journalism.
She's the new Molly Ivins...guts, grit, humor,and downright unabashed liberal/progressive. She, however, has a nationwide TW show and hope she keeps it for a long time. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:16 PM
iamthebandfanman (6,744 posts)
20. showed this to a conservative friend, (lame excuses)
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already getting lame excuses..
"well... we had an economy still! so it would have worked! thats why!" clearly he didnt even watch the video, cause Ryan admits we are already in a recession. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:28 PM
Dont call me Shirley (1,395 posts)
23. Two-faced forked-tongue ryan
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:08 PM
cstanleytech (5,295 posts)
24. I love the smell of partisan hypocrisy and in fact it smells like.......victory. nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:58 PM
madrchsod (55,716 posts)
26. the level of stupidity is amazing
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the main reason people are elected to the house is to get as much as they can for their district. if they do`t they will be replaced by someone who will.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:20 PM
bushisanidiot (7,841 posts)
27. Yep! Saw that this morning
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The video is golden and needs to be used in a campaign ad outlining Ryan's HUGE flip flop.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:07 AM
ashling (19,175 posts)
28. Todays show was great!
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:01 AM
vinny9698 (252 posts)
30. That has been the GOP playbook voting against a bill then going to their district and taking credit
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Taking credit for it if it passed. You seen them do it with the stimulus bill, and other bills.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
eppur_se_muova (20,759 posts)
31. "Rep. Ryan -- did you, or did you not, engage in self-stimulation?"
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I'm buying dinner for the first reporter who asks that.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:59 PM
mwb970 (10,114 posts)
32. This was surprising even to me.
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And I'm used to this stuff! I watched in amazement as Ryan advanced every single (correct) argument for bush's stimulus, even getting sort of exercised and waving his hand about, etc.
Wow. This is a stunning level of hypocrisy, even for a republican. |

