Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:22 AM
maddezmom (131,270 posts)
Obama Camp: No Apology for Biden Comments
Source: National Journal
¬snip¬ In an editorial on Friday, The Globe wrote, “Imagine if Republican Paul Ryan uttered comments like that. Mitt Romney’s pick for vice president would be pilloried for racial insensitivity — and so would Romney. In the fight for civility and substance over pointless hyperbole, Biden may not be the worst offender. But he’s an offender nonetheless, and he should apologize.” Speaking on CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday, Stephanie Cutter, an Obama deputy campaign manager, said that no apology was necessary and that Biden’s choice of words were “a distraction from the larger argument” about deregulation. She said the Romney campaign has also said things about the president that are offensive, including questioning his patriotism. “We are not going to be lectured by Mitt Romney,” she said. “That’s completely hypocritical.” Read more: http://www.nationaljournal.com/sunday-shows/obama-camp-no-apology-for-biden-comments-20120819
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| maddezmom | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| qb | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| indie_voter | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| zbdent | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| Rosa Luxemburg | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| aquart | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| maddezmom | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| part man all 86 | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| NYC_SKP | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| mopinko | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| ejbr | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| lunatica | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| Botany | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| winstars | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| Genghis_Sean | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| obxhead | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| emulatorloo | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| WinstonSmith4740 | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| Genghis_Sean | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| WinstonSmith4740 | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| wordpix | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| LiberalFighter | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| geckosfeet | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| nradisic | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| fob | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| kestrel91316 | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| Historic NY | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| Zoeisright | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| SylviaD | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| Progressive dog | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| wordpix | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| Odd Won Out | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| PD Turk | Aug 2012 | #32 | |
| PuffedMica | Aug 2012 | #33 | |
| HenryWallace | Aug 2012 | #34 |
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:27 AM
qb (5,924 posts)
1. That's what I like to hear! Knee-jerk apologies have not served Dems well.
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:32 AM
indie_voter (1,986 posts)
2. Finally! I am so glad she brought up what they've said against the President
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Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:35 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Offensive is an understatement.
Biden didn't say anything untoward. He was using a common figure of speech. Not to mention he's right. This Romney/Ryan ticket would shackle us all except for the very rich Hypocritical indeed. |
Response to indie_voter (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:43 AM
zbdent (34,592 posts)
8. Um ... the Repugs are the ones that brought up shackles ...
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also known by their more common term, chains ...
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Response to indie_voter (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:18 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (22,257 posts)
21. Republicans shouldn't live in glass houses
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the old saying: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:34 AM
aquart (67,682 posts)
3. I'm becoming quite fond of that young woman.
Response to aquart (Reply #3)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:37 AM
maddezmom (131,270 posts)
7. here is another zinger
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:35 AM
part man all 86 (367 posts)
4. The republlicans are crying mommie because Biden hit them with a little truth.
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They do want to chain us, limit what people can say, or vote, or where to work or have unions or get paid a decent wage. I have no problem calling the cons what they are; My Enemy!
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:37 AM
NYC_SKP (49,533 posts)
5. Hell, he should come out and say it again. The truth hurts.
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Be they chains of iron, or metaphorical chains, the 99% are increasingly becoming prisoners of debt, of fiscal and medical malpractice, and of the consequences of a government that serves the 1%.
Come on Joe, say it again. There's nothing wrong with the truth. K/R |
Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #5)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:55 PM
mopinko (39,763 posts)
25. wouldn't it be great
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if he got some air time and read ike's 'cross of iron' speech?
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:37 AM
ejbr (3,953 posts)
6. You know what? I'll apologize for the Obama campaign
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I'm sorry the Rmoney campaign are being such little bitches about it. When does our side ever ask for an apology? WTF?
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:50 AM
lunatica (28,953 posts)
9. Good.
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Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:51 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Fuck their slim covered 'sensitivity'.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:53 AM
Botany (36,162 posts)
10. Loves me some Stephanie Cute-R
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Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:56 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
“We are not going to be lectured by Mitt Romney,” she said. “That’s completely hypocritical.” ******************** Biden said nothing wrong and it is the republicans who are taking his words out of context in order to try to get Obama and company off their game. BTW this from the party that slimed John Kerry who was awarded 3 purple hearts, a bronze star, and a silver star in Vietnam all the time not losing 1 man in some of the most hazardous duty in the war. |
Response to Botany (Reply #10)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:26 AM
winstars (1,217 posts)
15. DITTO!!! She rocks!!! n/t
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:03 AM
Genghis_Sean (32 posts)
11. Local letter to the editor from my hometown paper...
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Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:07 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) http://blogs.indystar.com/letters/2012/08/17/media-let-democrats-get-away-with-gaffes/?fb_comment_id=fbc_10151172554526508_26070218_10151173545501508#f260dff5bfab2ec
Media let Democrats get away with gaffes We saw two examples of media bias this week, both relating to Vice President Joe Biden. First, if Paul Ryan had made the comment, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains,” the media would be crucifying him with charges of racism. But when Biden says it? Hardly a peep from the news media, other than to ask Obama spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter about it. She answered that we have no problem with those comments. End of discussion. Second, if Paul Ryan had been standing in Virginia and said, “With you, we can win North Carolina again and if we do, we win the election, if we win you,” can you imagine the feeding frenzy among the media? Think Dan Quayle. He had a bulls-eye on him for weeks after not knowing how to spell the plural of potato; Ryan would have been the lead story for making the geographical error that Biden made. But when Biden makes the error? Barely a word. Are you a Republican who doesn’t know there’s an “e” in potatoes? We’ll blast you for weeks. Are you a Democrat who doesn’t know what state you’re in? Don’t sweat it; we got your back. Ray Walton Indianapolis My reply: Ah, the art of the false equivalency. I suspect the reason African-Americans weren't overly offended by Biden's latest gaffe is because he's built up some credit with his voting record and actions. When you pursue policies that unduly affect Black and poor communities, and then employ racially charged language, people are going to suspect they're related. Similarly, the left didn't place crosshairs or use violent imagery or charged language to express their disapproval of Chik-fil-A, though they did call them out on their bigotry and hypocrisy. One violent act by a crazy whose actions were immediately roundly denounced does not equal years of the kind of vitriol we see spouted regularly at Tea Party rallies or at Fox and Friends. Finally stop with the liberal bias of the media. When a progressive news organization openly donates a million dollars to help elect Democratic governors, then you can talk. No other major media organization has a reputation for lying, smearing, quoting out of context, and withholding information that disproves their own talking points as Fox News does. The faux outrage and false equivalencies ring very hollow indeed. ~ My reply seems to have ended the discussion except for a few conservatives who are flailing about for a response including one who attempts to pass himself off as an African-American to express umbrage, but he unfortunately referred to himself as "a person of color" so he's not very convincing and sounds suspiciously like a redneck down to the horrific grammar and Fox News talking points. |
Response to Genghis_Sean (Reply #11)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:15 AM
obxhead (7,163 posts)
12. George Smith II
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Here's his FB photo:
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Response to Genghis_Sean (Reply #11)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:24 AM
emulatorloo (24,437 posts)
14. Excellent reply - thanks for calling them out.
Response to Genghis_Sean (Reply #11)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:51 PM
WinstonSmith4740 (743 posts)
24. I have NO idea how to imbed pictures!
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So those of you Mel Brooks fans get "Blazing Saddles" in your head...
"...including one who attempts to pass himself off as an African-American to express umbrage", "Gentlemen, we've got to protect our phony baloney jobs! Harrumph, harrumph!" "I didn't get a "harrumph" outta that guy." If you have no idea as to what I'm talking about, go out and get the DVD now! |
Response to WinstonSmith4740 (Reply #24)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:38 PM
Genghis_Sean (32 posts)
27. Hello, girls! How ya' doin? I missed you!
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Harrumph!
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Response to Genghis_Sean (Reply #27)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:06 PM
WinstonSmith4740 (743 posts)
31. Oh, please...
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Don't get me started. Shawiff. Or was it Hedley?
Welcome to DU! |
Response to Genghis_Sean (Reply #11)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:45 PM
wordpix (12,502 posts)
29. excellent response, thanks for the smackdown!
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:22 AM
LiberalFighter (31,155 posts)
13. I sure don't feel Biden or Obama needs to apologize.
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:32 AM
geckosfeet (8,893 posts)
16. Good.
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Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:32 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) The potus doe NOT take his cue from a has been also ran half governor.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:51 AM
nradisic (1,301 posts)
17. It's unprecedented! Read him the "no-fighting-back" rules!
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:56 AM
fob (5,521 posts)
18. raygun/bush = trickle down economics, romney/ryan = shackle down economics
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So Biden's comment also happens to ring true, that's what really upsets the shacklers.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:03 PM
kestrel91316 (45,688 posts)
19. Good. NEVER apologize to fascists or haters or criminals.
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:13 PM
Historic NY (19,872 posts)
20. Good..its about time
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:34 PM
Zoeisright (8,010 posts)
22. No shit.
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Tell you what, repukes - you apologize for calling the President of the United States a Nazi, terrorist, Muslim, Socialist, Communist, Kenyan, baby murderer, and witch doctor - FIRST. You assholes.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:42 PM
SylviaD (163 posts)
23. Joe has said NOTHING wrong here. n/t
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:04 PM
Progressive dog (1,298 posts)
26. The two R's should spend the rest of their lifes apologizing
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:42 PM
wordpix (12,502 posts)
28. good! no more apologies to the lying, thieving R's
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:57 PM
Odd Won Out (75 posts)
30. Good to see Dems aquire some backbone
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There is absolutely no need to apologize, but in past, Dem campaigns seemed to always apologize for what Fox News had framed as some kind of false umbrage. Great to see us stand up for ourselves. Hope this will be a trend, and not some aberration.
Love Stephanie Cutter. |
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:26 PM
PD Turk (1,090 posts)
32. Good
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The RWers spew the most hateful, bile filled garbage every day and see no need to apologize for any of it, it's about time we stop approaching them with our hats in our hands all the time.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:38 PM
PuffedMica (825 posts)
33. It is the Republicans who should be doing the apologizing for manufacturing a racial issue
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The Republicans are trying to divert attention by screaming "Racism" because they have nothing else to run on.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:16 PM
HenryWallace (18 posts)
34. Right Wing Echo Chamber
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This is a coordinated effort to change the current narrative!
Eight years ago it would have worked. Today, even the most conservative members of the MSM have seen this before. The ability of Fox News to influence anyone outside their own insulated audience is limited. |

