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Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:08 AM

Mitt Romney's tax returns: the 'voter fraud' theory

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Source: The Guardian


"There has been much speculation about why Romney refuses to disclose earlier tax returns. Could it be as simple as an address? Meanwhile, Romney appears to have escaped relatively unsinged from the apparently unrelated revelation that he may have committed voter fraud in January 2010, when – despite not owning a house in Massachusetts and having given every appearance of having moved to California – he registered and voted in the Massachusetts special election to replace the deceased Senator Ted Kennedy. Given the GOP's ongoing use of the "voter fraud" fable to justify modern Jim Crow laws and its highly-publicized persecution of the voter registration group Acorn, an actual case of felony voter fraud committed by the Republican nominee could have been a big story – but Romney was able to tamp down the flames by claiming, not very credibly but also not disprovably, that he and Ann actually were living in their son Tagg's Belmont, Massachusetts basement in 2010. Without proof that Romney lied about where he lived, there's no felony – and no big national story."

"Tax returns require taxpayers to state their residence address, and the Romney returns already produced, although partially redacted, state clearly that they lived in "Belmont, MA 02478" in 2012 (tax year 2011) (pdf) and 2011 (tax year 2010) (pdf)"

"But the Romneys, arbitrarily, refuse to disclose a copy of the returns they filed in 2010 or 2009 (for tax years 2009 and 2008) – which, perhaps not coincidentally, bracket the time period when Romney allegedly committed fraud by voting in Massachusetts when he actually resided in California. So here's the question: did Romney put his son's basement's address on the returns he filed in 2009 and 2010? Or did he truthfully use his real (non-Massachusetts) address, thus implicating himself in voter fraud?"



Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/17/mitt-romney-tax-returns-voter-fraud-theory?fb=optOut



This is an issue in serious need of a panel of tax lawyers, of which I am not one. I also believe that the omission of the Romney's 2010 Form 990-T on his $100 million plus IRA funds needs further scrutiny:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/mitt-romney-2010-tax-unrelated-business_n_1798152.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&utm_hp_ref=politics

And last, but not least, his 2010 Report on Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR) has not been disclosed either, which would identify whether he participated in the Tax Amnesty program for his Swiss UBS bank account. This FBAR, which has it's origin in the Bank Secrecy Act, holds civil penalties pursuant to the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004, the maximum civil penalty for a non-willful failure to file is $10,000. Criminal penalties range astronomically higher in contrast, in which case the subject would be really "fubar'd".

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Reply Mitt Romney's tax returns: the 'voter fraud' theory (Original post)
MIDNITERIDER1438 Aug 2012 OP
Kalidurga Aug 2012 #1
joshcryer Aug 2012 #5
ThomThom Aug 2012 #7
avebury Aug 2012 #11
hedgehog Aug 2012 #12
lobodons Aug 2012 #13
stlsaxman Aug 2012 #2
Berlum Aug 2012 #3
joshcryer Aug 2012 #4
Kolesar Aug 2012 #6
kitt6 Aug 2012 #8
Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #9
mike dub Aug 2012 #10
cyberswede Aug 2012 #14

Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:55 AM

1. Of course he committed voter fraud...

But, I think the real answer is all of the above.

A. Amnesty

B. Voter Fraud

C. low tithing

D. Paid 0 in taxes

E All of the above.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:39 AM

5. That would do it! But A or D would sink him.

Sadly I don't think Americans take voter fraud as seriously as it should be done (we should have a universal system of voting, imo).

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:51 AM

7. don't forget Bane salary while at Olympics when he was suppose to

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not have any ties and signed an agreement to that effect
I would like to know what he got paid for not being the CEO of Bane will at the Olympics or did he lie to Mass so he could run for governor

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:20 AM

11. I am shocked I tell you, shocked!

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:59 AM

12. that deserves to be a poll!

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:00 AM

13. C costs him his Planet

Unless of course he can retroactively make amends to appease The Elders.

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Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:41 AM

2. ding-ding-ding-ding....!!!

"We have a WINNAAAHHHH!!!!"

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Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:16 AM

3. Felonious Republican

as is so often the case...sigh...

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Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:31 AM

4. I don't think that would affect his campaign. The baggers love voter fraud.

They will commit it any chance they'd get and it would just be a cute faux pas. Romney would shrug it off even if it was proven.

I'm leaning toward amnesty. That would destroy him.

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Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:49 AM

6. States will hound "long-term RVers" who file taxes in one state but register their cars in another

"Long-term RVers" are people who don't rent or own a house, but travel throughout the year in an RV. It is tempting to file taxes in a state with no income tax and pay for license plates in a state that is cheaper (like Ohio). The RVing books are full of advice not to do that, because it is against the law.

Laws aren't for 1%ers, apparently.

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Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:59 AM

8. The R party is a fraud.

As far back as I can remember and I am 50 +

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Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:03 AM

9. Does anyone honestly think that a couple like the Romneys lived in a basement of a house

as small as the one in question. He is having a home leveled that was 3,000 square feet in California. And for 2 years, in a basement, give me a break! He could have bought a home there for a couple of years and sold it later, but he did not even bother to do that. This whole thing stinks to high Heaven. He asks us to "trust him" on everything. Especially considering that he destroys all records everywhere he goes. Who does that?

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:15 AM

10. Thank you, Dustlawyer! - I was thinking the exact same thing...

Can anyone seriously imagine Ann "You People/Queen Anne" Rmoney living in a BASEMENT?!!?!?!? How goash! (sp?)

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Response to MIDNITERIDER1438 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:12 PM

14. Locking - not LBN

Sorry...this is an analysis piece (albeit an important one).

Please discuss in one of these threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021155438
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125172373
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021155196

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