Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:44 AM
Judi Lynn (77,562 posts)
Police release video in Ark. patrol car shooting
Source: Associated Press
Police release video in Ark. patrol car shooting By JEANNIE NUSS | Associated Press – 4 hrs ago.. LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Police video recorded the night a young man was fatally shot in a northeast Arkansas patrol car while his hands were cuffed behind his back hasn't resolved questions about whether he shot himself in the head as officers said. Jonesboro police released footage to The Associated Press and other news organizations under a Freedom of Information Act request this week. They released more footage Friday amid questions about why the first batch of video appeared to end before the officers found Chavis Carter, 21, slumped over and bleeding in the back of a patrol car on July 28 as described in a police report. Police have said officers had frisked Carter twice without finding a gun. The second batch of video occurred after Carter was discovered, police said. "There's still nothing in there about what actually happened with Chavis," Benjamin Irwin, a Memphis-based lawyer representing Carter's family, said Friday before the second batch of video had been released. Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/police-release-video-ark-patrol-car-shooting-195637138.html
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15 replies, 3181 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Judi Lynn | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| loli phabay | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| Fuddnik | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| BrainMann1 | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| Art_from_Ark | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| ProgressiveProfessor | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| Ash_F | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| ProgressiveProfessor | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| Ash_F | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| EX500rider | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| NOLALady | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| EX500rider | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| DallasNE | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| xtraxritical | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| SunSeeker | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| Blue_Tires | Aug 2012 | #15 |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:48 AM
loli phabay (2,831 posts)
1. its actually not uncommon for patrol officers to miss stuff on a search
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i have contact with deputies at a local jail pretty uch on a daily basis and the horror stories they tell of people coming in and being searched by them and having knifes in their pockets or boots and yes even on occasion handguns missed by the patrol officers. No idea what happened here though.
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Response to loli phabay (Reply #1)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 06:14 AM
Fuddnik (4,423 posts)
2. It's not uncommon for "mysterious 18 minute gaps" to appear in evidence either.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:43 AM
BrainMann1 (317 posts)
3. Little Rock, we have a problem
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Let me get this straight: They had frisked him twice, His hands were cuffed behind his back,he shoots himself in the head and their video is compromised.
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Response to BrainMann1 (Reply #3)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:26 AM
Art_from_Ark (16,883 posts)
5. Actually, it's Jonesboro that has the problem in this case
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That's what the incident actually occurred, more than 100 miles northeast of Little Rock.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:56 AM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
4. Is there a camera for the backseat?
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Wondering why there was any expectation that it would be on video
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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #4)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:52 AM
Ash_F (1,733 posts)
6. What the officers may have said or acted like is important
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prior to the shooting, during and after, how the officers acted/reacted would be pretty strong evidence as to what happened.
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Response to Ash_F (Reply #6)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:51 AM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
7. I an see that...
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Presumes they were in the field of view, but it could indeed be useful.
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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #7)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:01 PM
Ash_F (1,733 posts)
12. Not necessarily, the camera pics up audio.
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See the article for more on that
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:09 AM
EX500rider (299 posts)
8. I think the most likely scenario..
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....is that they did miss a gun in the search and Carter knew it would be found during the jail search (which is much more thorough) and he tried to get it out and stuff it into the crack in the seat to hide it....doing this behind your back with your hands cuffed could result in a unintended discharge of the weapon at a weird angle..
If the cops wanted to shoot him they would have done it outside the car, they aren't that stupid. |
Response to EX500rider (Reply #8)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:22 AM
NOLALady (3,425 posts)
9. They aren't that stupid.
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Right.
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Response to NOLALady (Reply #9)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:25 AM
EX500rider (299 posts)
10. Well police do tend to have a grasp of police procedure... n/t
Response to EX500rider (Reply #8)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:27 AM
DallasNE (2,937 posts)
11. My Understanding Is That The Weapon Was Fired Twice
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Unless the weapon was stuffed down his crack there is no way he could have gotten at it with his hands cuffed behind his back. Plus, what does the autopsy show regarding bullet angle, where did the first bullet strike, etc.
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Response to EX500rider (Reply #8)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:40 PM
xtraxritical (2,931 posts)
14. Rear seats in patrol cars are made of one peice molded plastic, there's no crack.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:33 PM
SunSeeker (5,001 posts)
13. Prediction: the video of the actual incident will be declared "lost." nt
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:53 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
15. I don't have high hopes for this...
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IIRC, the worst punishment I've ever seen for cops who have handcuffed suspects "accidentally" die in custody is to simply get fired...
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