Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:14 AM
Judi Lynn (77,598 posts)
NASA rover Curiosity prepares to zap a Martian rock in first laser target practice
Source: Associated Press
NASA rover Curiosity prepares to zap a Martian rock in first laser target practice By Associated Press, Published: August 17 LOS ANGELES — Ready, set, fire. The NASA Mars rover Curiosity is preparing for its first laser target practice — zapping a Martian rock 10 feet away on Saturday night. Since landing in an ancient crater Aug. 5, the car-size Curiosity has been getting a full health checkup. Scientists said Friday they have chosen a generic-looking rock near the landing site to aim the laser at and burn a small hole. The laser is one of 10 tools Curiosity will use to study whether the environment was favorable for microbial life. Engineers next week planned to command Curiosity to turn its wheels side-to-side and then take its first short drive that will involve rolling forward 10 feet, turning 90 degrees and then going in reverse. Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/nasa-rover-curiosity-prepares-to-zap-a-martian-rock-in-first-laser-target-practice/2012/08/17/fa8c2454-e8ca-11e1-9739-eef99c5fb285_story.html
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| Judi Lynn | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| intaglio | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| jberryhill | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| Confusious | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| WooWooWoo | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| drm604 | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| Posteritatis | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| SkyDaddy7 | Aug 2012 | #35 | |
| Posteritatis | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| Posteritatis | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| SkyDaddy7 | Aug 2012 | #36 | |
| jobendorfer | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #37 | |
| kestrel91316 | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #38 | |
| slackmaster | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| struggle4progress | Aug 2012 | #33 | |
| slackmaster | Aug 2012 | #41 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| Frank Cannon | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| TomClash | Aug 2012 | #32 | |
| dipsydoodle | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| longship | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| sofa king | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| RZM | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| chknltl | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| StrictlyRockers | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| slackmaster | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| NickB79 | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| hunter | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| Gman | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| greiner3 | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| GodlessBiker | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| XemaSab | Aug 2012 | #34 | |
| Odin2005 | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| flamingdem | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | Aug 2012 | #39 | |
| octothorpe | Aug 2012 | #43 | |
| freshwest | Aug 2012 | #40 | |
| Shankapotomus | Aug 2012 | #42 |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:25 AM
intaglio (4,637 posts)
1. And immediately afterwards
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Last edited Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:34 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) a strange voice is heard worldwide
"This is the voice of the Mysterons ..." |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:30 AM
jberryhill (29,884 posts)
2. First we bomb the moon and now this.
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Shameful.
We make up stories of aliens sending robots with death rays landing on earth, and then we do this to the unspoiled Martian landscape. |
Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:21 AM
Confusious (8,312 posts)
7. Did you forget the sarcasm tag? nt
Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:30 AM
WooWooWoo (401 posts)
10. yes, how shameful
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we're firing lasers on mars.
LASERS. ON. MARS. 100 years ago the preferred method of travel was a horse and buggy. Now we're on Mars, firing lasers from a mobile science lab that will send data back to us within minutes. How shameful indeed. |
Response to WooWooWoo (Reply #10)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:03 AM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
15. Why?
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Is there a scientific purpose?
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Response to TomClash (Reply #15)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:29 AM
drm604 (13,962 posts)
16. Yes. Why else would they be doing it?
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http://www.space.com/16886-mars-rover-laser-curiosity-chemcam.html
Mounted to Curiosity’s "head" just above its camera "eyes," ChemCam combines a powerful laser with a telescope and spectrometer that can analyze the light emitted by zapped materials, thereby determining the chemistry of Mars rocks with unprecedented precision.
... ChemCam’s telescope will observe the process, while its spectrometer — which is sensitive to light from every element on the periodic table — will analyze emissions from the resulting plasma, telling scientists what lies within. "ChemCam is designed to look for lighter elements such as carbon, nitrogen and oxygen, all of which are crucial for life," said Los Alamos' Roger Wiens, ChemCam principal investigator. "The system can provide immediate, unambiguous detection of water from frost or other sources on the surface, as well as carbon — a basic building block of life as well as a possible byproduct of life. This makes the ChemCam a vital component of Curiosity’s mission." |
Response to drm604 (Reply #16)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:16 PM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
24. I assumed a military purpose
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Thanks for the link and excerpt.
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Response to TomClash (Reply #24)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:26 PM
Posteritatis (17,280 posts)
25. What possible military purpose would there be, and why would they do it on Mars? (nt)
Response to TomClash (Reply #24)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:22 PM
SkyDaddy7 (4,571 posts)
35. NO!!!
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It's called GEOLOGY!
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Response to TomClash (Reply #15)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:58 PM
Posteritatis (17,280 posts)
18. After a certain point asking questions like that can only be *really* wilful ignorance.
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But I suppose reading any of the dozens of articles flying around about this is harder than just kneejerking.
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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #18)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:54 PM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
20. Smart people would think twice about ad hominem attacks
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It's really willfully ignorant not to become acquainted with DU Rules.
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Response to TomClash (Reply #20)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:07 PM
Posteritatis (17,280 posts)
21. "You obviously don't know anything about this" isn't an ad hominem when it's true. (nt)
Response to Posteritatis (Reply #21)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:14 PM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
22. That is not how your post read
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Re-read it.
Yes, I obviously don't know anything about this. That might be why I asked the question. |
Response to TomClash (Reply #22)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:26 PM
SkyDaddy7 (4,571 posts)
36. NO! You did not!
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You "assumed it was for military purposes"...your comments seem to be more aimed at causing a fight than actually asking questions.
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Response to TomClash (Reply #15)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:30 PM
jobendorfer (437 posts)
28. The laser is used for spectography
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The laser delivers a jolt of energy to a rock or a small patch of soil and vaporizes part of it.
That makes the sample glow. A camera records the light emitted by the target sample as it is heated. The spectral breakdown of that light tells us about the sample's chemical composition. It might tell us if there is life NOW on Mars, or if there was life at some time in the past. Having an answer to that question is worth having a couple of hundred laser burn spots the size of a dime on tens of thousands of square miles of Martian surface, IMHO. ( The impact is negligible compared to what meteors regularly do to the Martian surface. ) J. |
Response to jobendorfer (Reply #28)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:33 PM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
37. Your answer is appreciated
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A former client of mine works in this area and I may follow up with him.
Thank you for sparking my interest with your lucid explanation. |
Response to TomClash (Reply #15)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:54 PM
kestrel91316 (45,394 posts)
31. Gosh, no, there's NO scientific purpose to anything NASA does.
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It's all just entertainment for the masses.
Now go crawl back under that rock and continue reading your bible. |
Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #31)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:53 PM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
38. Poor animals
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They deserve a better fate.
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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:32 AM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
11. Strange alien craft lands, sits still for several days, then starts blasting away at the landscape
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Response to slackmaster (Reply #11)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:15 PM
struggle4progress (71,480 posts)
33. You aren't going to comment on the obvious Second Amendment issues here?
Response to struggle4progress (Reply #33)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:37 PM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
41. When particle beam weapons are outlawed, only outlaws will have particle beam weapons.
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Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:38 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I'll give up my X-ray laser when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
I'm a proud member of the National Railgun Association. |
Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:00 AM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
14. Revenge of the Nerds
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Men who spend way too much time with mice and motherboards and the US military.
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Response to TomClash (Reply #14)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:37 PM
Frank Cannon (6,191 posts)
29. Um, what?
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Response to Frank Cannon (Reply #29)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:00 PM
TomClash (10,948 posts)
32. I liked how it read at the time
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But it was snarky and over the top.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:31 AM
dipsydoodle (32,631 posts)
3. Presumably to the tune of
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:41 AM
longship (17,662 posts)
4. Gort, Klaatu barada nikto.
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Gotta save Mars from certain distruction.
You're welcome, Mars. No charge for friends. |
Response to longship (Reply #4)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:47 AM
sofa king (8,695 posts)
13. It's a reverse H.G. Wells
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Last edited Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:49 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) It falls from the sky, sits dormant for a little while, pops up a periscope, looks around, and then starts blasting.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:44 AM
RZM (8,296 posts)
5. Blow the shit out of that rock, Curiosity
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You have my approval.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:54 AM
chknltl (8,742 posts)
6. Alien rock shot by robot claiming self defense under Stand Your Ground rule.
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Last edited Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:06 AM USA/ET - Edit history (6) Witnesses report rock and robot were earlier involved in heated argument over whether or not shaved pubes makes one look like a ten year old.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 06:01 AM
StrictlyRockers (1,826 posts)
8. Make it so!
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Last edited Sat Aug 18, 2012, 06:02 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Engage!
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Response to StrictlyRockers (Reply #8)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:33 AM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
12. What about the Prime Directive?
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:07 AM
NickB79 (9,402 posts)
9. I see the NRA is going interplanetary now
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Well, now the NLA (National Laser Association).
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:25 PM
hunter (16,108 posts)
17. Hmmm. Remember the rock monster in Galaxy Quest?
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:15 PM
greiner3 (3,959 posts)
23. Best one I've heard;
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About Curiosity;
"Upon landing, Curiosity killed the only cat on Mars." |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:35 PM
GodlessBiker (6,293 posts)
26. The laser will carve "Kilroy was here" into the rock.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:58 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
27. First we bombed the moon and now this? HORRIBLE!!!
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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #27)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:43 PM
flamingdem (22,687 posts)
30. Git that Rock Rover!
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blam
This is just the most amazing accomplishment. Viva Nasa! |
Response to Odin2005 (Reply #27)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:04 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,500 posts)
39. The beginning...
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of a planetary arms race.
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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #27)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:45 PM
octothorpe (962 posts)
43. *sigh* To be honest, I've been hoping for a similar discussion about this...
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Sadly I cannot find any such discussion anywhere on the internets.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:54 PM
freshwest (31,430 posts)
40. What about that 'We Come In Peace,' stuff? That might be some Martian's Pet Rock. For shame, NASA!
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:37 PM
Shankapotomus (2,316 posts)
42. Imagine if the laser
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hit the only and first instance of microbial life on Mars and killed it?
Uh oh. Whoops. |



