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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:14 PM

John Lennon's killer seeks freedom again

Source: CNN

Mark David Chapman, John Lennon's convicted killer, is up for parole for the seventh time and may be questioned as early as Tuesday, authorities said Friday.

His latest quest for freedom comes ahead of the 32nd anniversary of the death of the former Beatle, a British singer-songwriter who was gunned down outside his Manhattan apartment on December 8, 1980.

Chapman is scheduled to be interviewed by two or three members of the parole board, according to Carole Claren-Weaver, a spokeswoman for the New York Department of Corrections.

He was last up for parole in 2010, but was denied because his "discretionary release remains inappropriate at this time and incompatible with the welfare of the community," according to the New York State Division of Parole.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/17/justice/new-york-chapman-parole-hearing/index.html

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Reply John Lennon's killer seeks freedom again (Original post)
alp227 Aug 2012 OP
onehandle Aug 2012 #1
Kalidurga Aug 2012 #2
pepperbear Aug 2012 #3
Grins Aug 2012 #4
Merlot Aug 2012 #12
The Wizard Aug 2012 #5
MichiganVote Aug 2012 #6
aquart Aug 2012 #7
dflprincess Aug 2012 #8
limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #9
Merlot Aug 2012 #11
limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #13
Swagman Aug 2012 #19
Merlot Aug 2012 #29
Scairp Aug 2012 #33
limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #35
Scairp Aug 2012 #36
limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #37
Scairp Aug 2012 #38
AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #10
regnaD kciN Aug 2012 #15
sendero Aug 2012 #20
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AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #25
Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2012 #14
Lasher Aug 2012 #16
sofa king Aug 2012 #22
dogknob Aug 2012 #17
NBachers Aug 2012 #18
Kolesar Aug 2012 #21
Guy Montag Aug 2012 #23
wordpix Aug 2012 #24
Botany Aug 2012 #26
historylovr Aug 2012 #27
Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #28
Heather MC Aug 2012 #30
petronius Aug 2012 #31
Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #34
Scairp Aug 2012 #32
Taverner Aug 2012 #39
alphafemale Aug 2012 #40
alphafemale Aug 2012 #41

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:17 PM

1. Legal gun owner shoots man in the back five times.

Rightists say he has more rights than non-gun owners.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:23 PM

2. No

I believe that murder in most cases should be life in prison no parole. We have people serving life for non violent crimes with the three strikes law. So, if non-violent crime gets life, I can't see any reason for a violent offender to ever be eligible for parole.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:25 PM

3. A statement from Yoko should nip that right in the bud.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:26 PM

4. Can anyone explain that?

...inappropriate ...and incompatible with the welfare of the community".

That sounds like government bullshit-speak. Sounds like the crap decision that came out of Russia today. WTF does that even mean? How do you argue that?

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Response to Grins (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:15 AM

12. "..inappropriate ...and incompatible with the welfare of the community".

Sounds pretty straightforward to me.

Someone murders an unarmed man by shooting him in the back 5 times. How could it be appropriate to let him back into society?

Not even remotely comparable to the ruling from Russia today.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:30 PM

5. Chapman wants to be released

in time to vote for Rmoney so he can legally buy a new 44.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:33 PM

6. I've always thought this guy was full of it

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:42 PM

7. No.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:56 PM

8. Never

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:10 AM

9. I'm not so sure that if John could speak right now, he wouldn't say to let Chapman out of jail.

dunno

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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:12 AM

11. Even if John could speak and did want him released it's not his choice

I would not want to see someone who murders an unarmed man by shooting him in the back 5 times released.

The murderer took away someone who was looked up to and loved by many people. The murder of John Lenon affected our society. The murderer should stay behind bars for the rest of his life.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:26 AM

13. Yeah

I didn't mean that Chapman should be let loose in society. Was just thinking what John would have to say about it.

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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:20 AM

19. the celebrity of John Lennon should not be a factor in Chapman's

parole bid but I think it would be.

So sad to lose such a great artist at a young age.

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Response to Swagman (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:37 PM

29. That he murdered a celebrity should not be a factor, just that he murdered.

He choose John because he was a celebrity, so yes, it probably is a factor somehow.

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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:19 AM

33. John would NEVER say let him out

If we could contact him somehow with a Ouija board and ask him, he would no doubt tell how much was lost with his death, his son Sean growing up without a father, making things right with his son Julian, seeing his grandchildren, maybe even a reunion with the rest of the Beatles, so many, many what-ifs were lost when he went away and even though Lennon did not believe in the death penalty, he surely would believe in this loser staying where he is for the rest of his life, if only for what he stole from the Lennon family, forget what the world lost. He took a life. He's not on his death bed; he's still capable of murder. What if he decided killing one Lennon wasn't enough and went after his sons? No fucking way he better get out. I would boycott the entire state of New York and man I am one rabid Yankees fan. I don't know what I would do for certain, except totally lose my goddamned mind.

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Response to Scairp (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:51 AM

35. you may be right

But as a Red Sox fan I will never admit it.
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J/k

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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:06 AM

36. Fair enough

I however would be between a rock and a hard place. I'm planning a trip to the city in the not too distant future, got a place reserved, plane tickets, car rented...and Yankees tickets, so I would be in a very bad spot indeed. I think maybe I ought to be composing my own letter to the parole board of New York State, lest some fool think he's served enough time. So far he's been allowed to live 17 years more than John Lennon had at the time of his death, and he doesn't deserve it. He's stolen so much, from John, his children, his wife, his friends and colleagues and of course from the world. He should have to pay at least these past 31+ years the world has been without John, x2. Anything less is not justice.

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Response to Scairp (Reply #36)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:58 AM

37. It's understandble people have a lot of strong feelings about John.

I do too. His music is very sort of intimate and personal and powerful.

Even though they say Chapman was nuts, I have a conspiracy theory that it was really a political assassination. Haha I have to laugh at it because obviously there is no evidence for it.

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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #37)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:28 AM

38. Jealousy and envy is not insanity

And IMO, that's what this killer's motive was. Wanting the life John Lennon had is not madness it's coveting. When I became an adult I came to realize he was not crazy. He was just a fucking pathetic loser who fixated on John and knew he could never have what Lennon had and so took the life of Lennon so he would be robbed of what this murderer felt himself to be entitled to, for whatever reason. That is only my theory and who knows why exactly he did it and I don't really care. I just don't want him getting out of prison except in a pine box.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:22 AM

10. F### him.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:03 AM

15. Imagine life without parole...

...it's easy if you try.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:04 AM

20. LOL..

... my thoughts exactly.

I'd sooner let this fuck out of jail if he killed for $10 than I would for his actual motivation.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:00 PM

25. !

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:49 AM

14. Chapman has shown zero remorse for the murder

and has been all too eager to cash in on his crime and enjoy the fame he believes he 'acquired' from killing John.
Keep the bastard locked up for eternity. He's still a danger to society.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:21 AM

16. He can be released after John is no longer dead.

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Response to Lasher (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:14 AM

22. Or when the last Beatles fan dies.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:34 AM

17. Let him out and he will be dead within a year.

Someone would do it. It wouldn't be in sync with John's philosophy, but someone would still do it.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:50 AM

18. John Lennon's murder still brings a cloud of sadness to my heart - to the world's heart

Mark David Chapman will never stop being too defective to be allowed back into society.

Keep him in prison. Forever.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:22 AM

21. Gonna start a revolution from my bed

I cued up Oasis this morning because I love Beatles-inspired music: Oasis, XTC, Badfinger, that cut by Wilco that borrow from George.

The musicians from Oasis are going to release another album this year as: "Beady Eye".

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:10 PM

23. Sewege does not belong in drinking water

and this bit if human garbage belongs in a cell until he's room temperature.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:52 PM

24. absolutely NOT ---let inmates on pot charges go free and not this murderer

Just the thought of letting this killer go free burns me up.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:43 PM

26. The man will die in prison .....

.... cold and alone and that is all he can look forward to and John will live on
and on by his music.





Damn after all these years it still hurts.




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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:17 PM

27. No. Just no. nt

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:32 PM

28. Good luck with that

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:47 PM

30. You can get out when Lennon Comes back from the dead, and he is not a Zombie

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:57 PM

31. I really dislike indeterminate sentencing like this - particularly when it seems to allow

the identity of the victim to play a role in determining when that sentence should end. The murder of a celebrity should carry the same (immense) weight as the murder of anyone else, and the sentence should reflect that. But the only valid consideration for parole after the 'XX years to...' ought to be danger to the community, IMO...

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Response to petronius (Reply #31)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:45 AM

34. While I particularly despise this murderer, I agree with you

We have not only a two-tier justice system,
but also a two-tier victim system

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:06 AM

32. If he ever does get parole

I won't be responsible for my actions. This asshole's cowardly act was imprinted on me for life. I will never forget how bad I felt that night and I promise you he is much safer being in prison for the rest of his pathetic life.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:28 AM

39. hell no

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:07 AM

40. Yeah. They'll release that freak and he'll share an apartment with Charles Manson.

He's Never getting out. NEVER!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:13 AM

41. ...or OK, fine then. Let the little fucker out. Let's see how fast he can run,

Little bastard would have the life expectancy of Salman Rushdiein in Kabul.

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