Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:23 PM

Matilda (5,594 posts)

UK police descend on Assange's embassy refuge

Source: The Age, Australia

BREAKING NEWS: Police are massing outside the Ecuadorian embassy in London where Australian WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is holed up after seeking political asylum.

WikiLeaks tweeted this morning that police in two large vans had arrived ‘‘to surround the Ecuadorian embassy in London’’ about midnight, local time.

Fairfax Media correspondent Karen Kissane reports from outside the embassy that a police custody van is parked 20 metres from the front door and three Metropolitan Police tactical support group members, normally assigned to public order duties, are at the entrance to the building.

Kissane says WikiLeaks supporters gathered there say five police have entered the building housing the embassy. However, it is unclear if they have entered the embassy itself.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/uk-police-descend-on-assanges-embassy-refuge-20120816-249pe.html

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UK police descend on Assange's embassy refuge (Original post)	Matilda	Aug 2012	OP
Criminals	Pharaoh	Aug 2012	#1
As i posted in another thread a few moments ago, check the 1987 Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act	Bodhi BloodWave	Aug 2012	#5
A dangerous and stupid action on the part of the Brits.	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#8
Not at all.	randome	Aug 2012	#10
And that's not at all how it works in international diplomacy	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#12
Well, you got me there.	randome	Aug 2012	#38
He wasn't roaming free. He was under house arrest without any charges. Unprecedented. nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#42
You're right but only because he kept fighting the extradition order.	randome	Aug 2012	#44
Of course he did since the extradition order was a bogus transparent attempt to	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#51
Don't bring up the 'poison pill' nonsense again.	randome	Aug 2012	#54
This message was hidden by jury decision.	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#59
Well, a nerve was struck but it wasn't mine.	randome	Aug 2012	#64
Trying to have a discussion with a conspiracy theorist is like trying to polish a turd	Major Nikon	Aug 2012	#89
A polished turd	tama	Aug 2012	#115
What are the charges against him? Everyone in the world would like to know. Perhaps	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#126
The U.K. a dictatorship? Are you kidding?	randome	Aug 2012	#131
No, the UK was up to recently, an Empire. It now has attached itself to the US	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#232
Pinochet? Sure. He wrangled the legal process for all it was worth, same as Assange.	randome	Aug 2012	#236
Lol, a man accused of genocide, with actual evidence, unlike this sham	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#260
I don't know the answers to all your questions.	randome	Aug 2012	#291
Well, I mean, I've given you the link to the finding of the court	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#135
I read the link, many times. And just as many times I have told you that the Assange	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#231
Did you miss the charges in the link? nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#234
Those are NOT charges. No charges have been filed against Assange.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#255
Ok. Those aren't the charges filled out on the EAW, even though they say they	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#270
No, they were a quickly cobbled together list of allegations which have never been	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#279
I suspect they will be once Mr. Assange is there--wouldn't be fair to start without him. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#284
Sorry, but I simply can't believe you read one word of that document	TorchTheWitch	Aug 2012	#318
I read every word of it the first time it was released. And no, it is not 'all spelled out there'.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#334
Suspicion of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion - according to a Swedish arrest warrant.	hack89	Aug 2012	#153
yeah, that's what you get yourself into when you don't use a condom	reorg	Aug 2012	#156
Swedish law is Swedish law - I think American rape laws are medieval and anti-women.	hack89	Aug 2012	#158
Here are the actual charges---I await an Assange supporter who	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#161
You posted this in the wrong thread.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#164
There are plenty of threads on male privilege throughout DU--read	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#166
Way to refute the charges! Case closed!	randome	Aug 2012	#167
I'm not trying to refute the charges.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#169
My bad. Sorry for the misinterpretation!	randome	Aug 2012	#171
No worries. No offense taken.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#172
One of the women has recanted	Arazi	Aug 2012	#174
Why would any country promise to protect a man who is not their citizen from the rest of the world?	randome	Aug 2012	#175
Because the charges are bogus + Assange's Wikileaks is deadly to corporate/state malfeasance	Arazi	Aug 2012	#180
What did he expose?	randome	Aug 2012	#181
"What did he expose?"	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#185
'Wikileakage'!	randome	Aug 2012	#195
War crimes by the US, created a pipeline for exposure of every other corrupt state's activities	Arazi	Aug 2012	#189
You know what else is a crime?	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#196
How would Ecuador know Sweden is lying?	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#183
I presume Assange has given them evidence of that	Arazi	Aug 2012	#191
You "presume"?	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#194
I guess I'm not clear on what you want.	Arazi	Aug 2012	#199
What I don't want is another alleged rapist to escape on celebrity status.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#204
This case reeks of international machinations to shut down a powerful conduit in exposing crimes	Arazi	Aug 2012	#210
This case reeks of	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#214
Thank You	janlyn	Aug 2012	#353
Because it's humane thing to do	tama	Aug 2012	#294
I'm no expert on STDs.	randome	Aug 2012	#298
Are you just making shit up?	The Doctor.	Aug 2012	#322
Um, what?	randome	Aug 2012	#326
I leave you to your protective bubble.	The Doctor.	Aug 2012	#337
Cite it. I gave you the court proceedings link. Cite your allegations. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#188
These are all common news stories from the Guardian or the NYTimes	Arazi	Aug 2012	#197
"Is it that Sweden is refusing to provide guarantees that they won't extradite Assange to the US?"	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#200
Cite me in the court record where someone recanted. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#202
Can't. However Anna Ardin has said that she never wanted rape charges to be filed	Arazi	Aug 2012	#209
Have you considered that if Mr. Assange's attorneys did not bring it up in court, it's because	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#212
There are no charges. Those are baseless allegations constructed by, well we do	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#377
Okay, since you're such an expert, please enlighten us	reorg	Aug 2012	#266
You haven't read the actual charges, have you? nt	hack89	Aug 2012	#272
Oh, I have, but you don't seem to know what you are talking about	reorg	Aug 2012	#280
The charges include forced violence sex and having non-consentual sex with a sleeping women.	hack89	Aug 2012	#295
no they don't	reorg	Aug 2012	#302
I think 'violate her sexual integrity' is close enough.	randome	Aug 2012	#312
no, it's not anywhere near close	reorg	Aug 2012	#319
None of the allegations listed use the word 'rape'.	randome	Aug 2012	#327
You should quickly inform the City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court	reorg	Aug 2012	#356
Why is the UK threatening to bring down a pillar of international diplomacy	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#359
England, Wales, the US...	TorchTheWitch	Aug 2012	#323
'Suspicion' thank you. And where are the charges, the evidence, after two years?	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#230
Here's the charges....	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#233
Those are not charges, they are baseless allegations without any evidence. We have all	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#237
No. Those are the actual charges. Taken from the EAW. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#240
Allegations that have never been actually filed as charges. Anyone can write up a	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#251
How many times do we have to explain how the Swedish system works?	hack89	Aug 2012	#241
And why, a question you continue to ignore, did the prosecutor NOT interview him	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#247
Why didn't he go back to Sweden when the warrant was issued?	hack89	Aug 2012	#252
I'm saying that the warrant was not necessary since he was completely available	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#253
Because she wants the interview to be held in Sweden where Assange is available for arrest	hack89	Aug 2012	#256
Um, if you are a prosecutor you will interview every witness regardless of the eventual	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#265
So because he was not interviewed for five weeks he can ignore a summons to be interviewed	hack89	Aug 2012	#275
Why did she refuse to interview him while he was in Sweden?	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#278
You're moving the goal posts.	randome	Aug 2012	#290
Care for personal cred?	tama	Aug 2012	#360
Because the interview is the LAST step in the investigation. Not the first but the last.	hack89	Aug 2012	#292
Swedish system has been heavily criticized	tama	Aug 2012	#303
Any allegation or suspicion "strong enough"	tama	Aug 2012	#311
It is all kind of moot now that he has two arrest warrants with his name on them.	hack89	Aug 2012	#328
Just keep on lying	tama	Aug 2012	#339
When his own lawyer admits that he was told he was going to be arrested	hack89	Aug 2012	#340
I really don't know what happened	tama	Aug 2012	#343
Howard Riddle, Senior District Judge (Chief Magistrate) is my source	hack89	Aug 2012	#344
I agree	tama	Aug 2012	#346
So what? What's the big deal about 2 weeks?	hack89	Aug 2012	#347
You're not following the example of your hero journalist	tama	Aug 2012	#351
Sorry but that's bollocks...you know damn well what he is justly afraid of..	truebrit71	Aug 2012	#276
And yet they let bush stroll free	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#14
I did say it was a theory.	randome	Aug 2012	#35
LOL He's wanted for questioning. He's not even charged.	Hissyspit	Aug 2012	#15
It's absurd that he skipped bail and tries to dodge the questioning, then!	randome	Aug 2012	#29
he 'skipped' nothing. He was free to leave and not tell any bloody person.	Swagman	Aug 2012	#46
He left without telling his attorneys where he was going and before Sweden was finished...	randome	Aug 2012	#52
thankfully your prejudical humble opniion is not law or fact	Swagman	Aug 2012	#55
Right. There is, however, an extradition order that needs to be carried out.	randome	Aug 2012	#60
you seem to have a rigid black and white faith in the working of British courts.	Swagman	Aug 2012	#65
I don't doubt that justice is unevenly applied and sometimes corrupt.	randome	Aug 2012	#71
Just like Pinochet which the Brits conveniently ignored.	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#66
I already addressed that elsewhere in this thread.	randome	Aug 2012	#68
Broken condom = international diplomatic incident to arrest! Murder hundreds of thousands?	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#73
one thing i note from assange supporters is that they seem to focus only on the broken condom	Bodhi BloodWave	Aug 2012	#100
Sweden was never going to be finished questioning him	magical thyme	Aug 2012	#125
He was not concerned with Sweden extraditing him to the U.S. in the past. Why now?	randome	Aug 2012	#132
um, when did he deny having sex?	magical thyme	Aug 2012	#134
Not trying to impress anyone. I'm just trying to learn the truth.	randome	Aug 2012	#138
I direct you to the testimony of Assange's own lawyer---he left before the DNA test	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#141
What DNA test? Who cares about a DNA test?	reorg	Aug 2012	#154
You seem rather mistaken as to what he is being prosecuted for.	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#160
From your link:	ronnie624	Aug 2012	#173
Ahem...do you realize the court is quoting a defense argument? And refuting it?	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#178
It is also quoting the prosecution's argument.	ronnie624	Aug 2012	#218
One of the women has recanted	Arazi	Aug 2012	#182
Cite it. I gave you the court proceedings link. Cite your allegations. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#184
Same as above. These are common news stories in the Guardian, NYTimes etc.	Arazi	Aug 2012	#198
Cite me in the court record where someone recanted. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#203
You seem to be rather confused about everything in this case	reorg	Aug 2012	#227
Oh, dear. 1) The judge doesn't agree with you....	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#229
in trying to accommodate the Swedes, the judge clearly engages in a lot of speculation	reorg	Aug 2012	#244
Well, if you don't think that any of the acts described are crimes, whether or not Assange	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#248
Wait, didn't you want to enlighten us	reorg	Aug 2012	#263
No--I can't help you. If you think holding down a woman, and ejaculating into her,	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#268
You're so noble a puritan. The charges must be true, and your justice surely must be righteous.	leveymg	Aug 2012	#271
The charges may not be true. When Mr. Assange goes to Sweden, we	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#274
You restated them in graphic detail as if they were true. Nice touch the ejaculation part.	leveymg	Aug 2012	#307
So we are in the realm of fantasy, again?	reorg	Aug 2012	#281
Yes. That's the act described---holding her down, entering and	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#283
No, that's not the act described	reorg	Aug 2012	#304
Okay. You don't have to believe the court filings. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#314
We don't have to nor should we.	tama	Aug 2012	#315
No, you misrepresent the court filings	reorg	Aug 2012	#316
What DNA evidence?	tama	Aug 2012	#313
what legal authority does Sweden have to question him in England?	TorchTheWitch	Aug 2012	#335
Questining people in other EU countries	tama	Aug 2012	#352
And of course it was pure coincidence he left within hours of learning he was to be arrested.	hack89	Aug 2012	#162
According to this document:	tama	Aug 2012	#91
Thanks for trying; but word to the wise:	snot	Aug 2012	#111
I found this article:	tama	Aug 2012	#114
None of the information in that article mention anything specific.	randome	Aug 2012	#123
Wikileaks provides an avenue for corporate and military exposure of war crimes and malfeasance	Arazi	Aug 2012	#176
Yeah, I keep hearing that.	randome	Aug 2012	#179
War crimes by the US. A pipeline for exposure of every other corrupt state's activities	Arazi	Aug 2012	#186
Who has been threatened by the document dump? Who has been inconvenienced?	randome	Aug 2012	#192
According to Ms Clinton	tama	Aug 2012	#308
So nothing specific.	randome	Aug 2012	#309
Your claim of seeking truth does not appear honest	tama	Aug 2012	#317
'Policy' is a nation's official position on something.	randome	Aug 2012	#329
Nah, policy is what you do	tama	Aug 2012	#338
Once again you demonstrate your complete lack of knowledge of this issue.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#332
The Swedish system requires a face to face interview with the prosecutor before charges are filed	hack89	Aug 2012	#163
@ggreenwald: RT @justleft: UN Dec. 1967: granting asylum is a peaceful and humanitarian act that can	Hissyspit	Aug 2012	#19
So when did he become a criminal?	Gregorian	Aug 2012	#21
When he left Sweden without questioning without the knowledge of his attorney.	randome	Aug 2012	#33
you mean the same UK that ignored Spain's request to extradite the mass murederer Pinochet?	Swagman	Aug 2012	#53
Good point.	randome	Aug 2012	#58
They didn't 'ignore' the extradition request - it went through the courts for over a year	muriel_volestrangler	Aug 2012	#121
please do not quote nonsense. Pinochet's doctor said he had Altheimers.	Swagman	Aug 2012	#139
You are remarkably uninformed on a subject you post about so much	muriel_volestrangler	Aug 2012	#144
and you are remarkably pendantic..but congratulations on being another brilliant Goggler.	Swagman	Aug 2012	#215
Here's a clue: saying someone is uninformed, when they've got something wrong	muriel_volestrangler	Aug 2012	#224
I hesitate to argue with someone who clearly has too much time on their hands	Swagman	Aug 2012	#321
Thanks. I didn't know he had violated bail. The whole case stinks.	Gregorian	Aug 2012	#61
he didnt violate bail- he was never charged	larkrake	Aug 2012	#83
The Guardian had an article which stated he had. I'm not sure what to believe.	Gregorian	Aug 2012	#92
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange faces arrest for breaching bail	struggle4progress	Aug 2012	#116
He did not leave without questioning. You continue to spread false information	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#128
Oh, God! Karl Rove?	randome	Aug 2012	#129
Thanks for once again proving your ignorance of this case. Yes, Karl Rove.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#235
What war crimes resulted in anything but 'inconvenience' for the powers to be.	randome	Aug 2012	#238
Um...no. The actual finding of the Belmarsh court is that he fled the day	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#136
no, that is not the "actual finding" of the court	reorg	Aug 2012	#152
I did. As I explained in my other post, you seem to be confused about	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#159
Nothing in that report explains why the Prosecutor, Marianne Nye, refused to interview	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#245
If you don't want to believe the court documents, or refuse to	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#246
You're still not answering the question. Why did Marianne Nye refuse to interview	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#249
We are not required to explain away every single detail.	randome	Aug 2012	#250
No, you've got that backwards. The burden of proof rests upon the Prosecution	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#258
'Proof' is not an option. That's for a jury to decide.	randome	Aug 2012	#293
That's why prosecutors file charges, because they have faith they can present a credible	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#297
Uh, no. Sweden's system is not like ours.	randome	Aug 2012	#299
Which is why they continue to refuse to question him. So that they do not have to file charges	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#306
Wait. What?	randome	Aug 2012	#310
Lol, now you really are engaging in some very creative speculation and misinterpretations.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#330
You do 'creative speculation' much better than me!	randome	Aug 2012	#333
Well, that's a good point. Why did they not arrest him while he was there, that was	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#336
I've answered that repeatedly. You just won't accept the answer.	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#254
So she doesn't really take this case seriously. Exactly. At least you have moved from	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#257
Oh, I think there are plenty of legal impediments, too. Mainly having to	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#269
Again, you are ignoring the fact that Assange was IN Sweden, making himself available	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#277
She took over on 9/2, had an interview with him scheduled 9/28,	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#282
He was available to the prosecution for five weeks. Suddenly as soon as he left, having	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#289
Okay. You don't have to believe the court filings. nt	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#296
I would believe then if they existed. Have these charges been filed in Sweden?	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#301
So you're saying that Britain is the lap dog.	randome	Aug 2012	#300
Why? That should be obvious. When you understand that there is no 'rape' case	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#305
Leaving Sweden was neither a criminal nor an indictable act.	Xithras	Aug 2012	#225
You don't get to decide how Sweden handles potential criminal matters.	randome	Aug 2012	#242
Shut tighter than a bull's arse in fly season...	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#325
you can't fix stupid!	gmpierce	Aug 2012	#47
But Cameron's nada, small as they may be, are in a wringer....	Swede Atlanta	Aug 2012	#56
Checked it out.	Matilda	Aug 2012	#11
Agree in Canada... nt	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#16
aside from the minor matter of	Bodhi BloodWave	Aug 2012	#96
I'll check every possible interpretation of international diplomatic law instead. (nt)	Posteritatis	Aug 2012	#261
Seems a bit over kill. What a horrible situation.	glinda	Aug 2012	#2
There is a guy livestreaming outside the embassy.	MADem	Aug 2012	#3
Looks like they raided in middle of night UK Time...	KoKo	Aug 2012	#9
There are a bunch of police vans (3) with 12 cops in them.	MADem	Aug 2012	#20
According to Hissyspit downthread, they're in the building. nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#22
Not all parts of the building are "Ecuador."	MADem	Aug 2012	#79
Thanks. Interesting times...	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#82
and yet the Brits allowed PC Yvonne Fletcher's Lybian murderer to walk free from the embassy	Swagman	Aug 2012	#48
The vans were there for the dozen or so protesters, in the event they were able to muster a crowd.	MADem	Aug 2012	#97
There is no "raid." I think the police are getting everything in order ahead of an announcement	MADem	Aug 2012	#67
I think that is most likely the case	Swagman	Aug 2012	#342
Live Streaming	cal04	Aug 2012	#4
is it wise to invade another country without war? n/t	PatrynXX	Aug 2012	#6
They may have revoked the embassy charter.	randome	Aug 2012	#7
If they did, this is about to get a whole lot bigger...	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#13
British tourist will be upset when they can't go to the Galapagos.	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#26
Tourist money trumps even Assange. Count on it. nt	MADem	Aug 2012	#77
I believe the Brits just made it bigger than one guy.	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#85
I think they are responding to Sweden as a neighbor and trading partner and	MADem	Aug 2012	#88
They are lapdog for the swedes now?	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#90
You're equating a charge of rape to jaywalking? Really?	MADem	Aug 2012	#93
Nd they showed it with the charge of "rape".	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#101
Maybe it's me, but I'm just not getting what you are saying...you think the charges are invented? nt	MADem	Aug 2012	#102
Not at all. The "charges" are real.	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#148
Not being in the room, and not being either the accused or the accuser, I cannot	MADem	Aug 2012	#165
Indeed Arctic Dave....here are the actual charges....	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#168
Again...those are NOT the "actual charges"..those are the allegations...	truebrit71	Aug 2012	#286
'narcissistic fool'?. So that's a crime now is it. Let's arrest all of Hollywood.	Swagman	Aug 2012	#50
The UK won't suddenly revoke the embassy status of the flat: they'll be much more measured	struggle4progress	Aug 2012	#117
All this time and money persecuting an innocent man. And unless this is a consolate,	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#127
He does not need to be charged to be the subject of an extradition order.	randome	Aug 2012	#130
you are outrageous. Everyone of your points has been bogus and when the facts	Swagman	Aug 2012	#140
But he did refuse a DNA test--the court found it as a matter of fact...	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#142
Thanks for all the diligent research and links.	randome	Aug 2012	#146
not true, these are your fantasies, not facts	reorg	Aug 2012	#151
Yes..it is a "reasonable assumption" from the facts that he left.	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#157
What you claim the court found as a matter of fact is NOT what the court found as a matter of fact	reorg	Aug 2012	#223
If you don't understand what a "standard of evidence" is, then I suggest you	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#226
a fact is a fact and an assumption is an assumption	reorg	Aug 2012	#228
I am frightened of no one. But I am ESPECIALLY unfrightened of the truth.	randome	Aug 2012	#147
You wouldn't know the truth it if it bit you in the ass.	HERVEPA	Aug 2012	#190
Ouch.	randome	Aug 2012	#193
What Britain said when Iran attacked its embassy in Tehran	Matilda	Aug 2012	#17
@wikileaks: UK police have penetrated interior fire escape and foyer of Ecuador embassy building (bu	Hissyspit	Aug 2012	#18
If you can, keep us posted?????	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#23
LIVE FEED here:	steve2470	Aug 2012	#24
UK police just said Assange is not in their custody at the moment nt	steve2470	Aug 2012	#27
Copper's using very tricky language on the feed...	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#30
Okay, watching it now. Thanks. Nice crowd there.	freshwest	Aug 2012	#239
Bet the UK wouldn't threaten an embassy if it was a 'power' country.	lumpy	Aug 2012	#25
There was the case of Cardinal Mindszenty,	Matilda	Aug 2012	#36
Same goes for the Pentecostals holed up for 4 years in the US Embassy in Moscow.	Hassin Bin Sober	Aug 2012	#80
Crazy Brits	MrBrooks2	Aug 2012	#28
Rather hoping that was sarcasm...	davidthegnome	Aug 2012	#84
I would not want to be in the British embassy in Quito tomorrow.	mysuzuki2	Aug 2012	#31
I foresee armored vehicles in its future.	Arctic Dave	Aug 2012	#45
The UK will be fortunate if their Embassy in Quito isn't burned to the ground	ronwelldobbs	Aug 2012	#57
Almost all of So America has been screwed over by the US, Brits, etc.	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#63
But remember, this has nothing to do with Wikileaks.	Gregorian	Aug 2012	#32
You're not alone. My detector is shrieking, I think it's about to burst into flames... nt	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#37
Unbelievable	Marrah_G	Aug 2012	#34
The british government is the whore of the US government.	Dawson Leery	Aug 2012	#39
Side by side with Australia.	Matilda	Aug 2012	#41
Don't forget Sweden.	randome	Aug 2012	#43
UPDATE 3-Britain threatens to storm Ecuador embassy to get Assange	steve2470	Aug 2012	#40
All this over a broken condem	cpwm17	Aug 2012	#49
murder a hundred thousand and it's a mere stastitic-invade a country likewise-break a condon	Swagman	Aug 2012	#62
the mass murderer General Pinochet, the innocent murdered PC Yvonne Fletcher	Swagman	Aug 2012	#69
This is not just about punishing Assange. He is being used to serve as a warning to to others	1monster	Aug 2012	#70
Destroyed over a period of two years and endless legal wranging?	randome	Aug 2012	#72
Yes, because, in all this time, he has not been free. He has had to wear that electronic	1monster	Aug 2012	#75
Yeah, like THAT wouldn't look suspicious??	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#76
Nah, he's not naive. He's just a tool.	HERVEPA	Aug 2012	#78
+1000	Dokkie	Aug 2012	#86
Well	tama	Aug 2012	#94
AKA a "Demonstration Project" (See "Pentagon Papers" and Valerie Plame\Joseph Wilson	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#118
Bastards!	Odin2005	Aug 2012	#74
I HAD JUST UPDATED	dsteve01	Aug 2012	#81
This does inspire a couple of thoughts...	davidthegnome	Aug 2012	#87
I agree with your last paragraph:	Matilda	Aug 2012	#95
I'm with you there...	davidthegnome	Aug 2012	#99
I have a bad feeling about all of this too.	avaistheone1	Aug 2012	#105
I think I see where you're coming from ...	Matilda	Aug 2012	#107
maybe not a whore, but a lap dog certainly.	subject	Aug 2012	#103
If Correa chooses to retaliate against British actions	Zorro	Aug 2012	#98
Most if not all OAS countries - and perhaps many others -	tama	Aug 2012	#110
Not gonna happen	Zorro	Aug 2012	#143
Considering that	tama	Aug 2012	#145
The Ecuadorean economy depends on trade with the US and EU	Zorro	Aug 2012	#149
I haven't mentioned trade sanctions	tama	Aug 2012	#150
Any country that wants to buck the Anglosphere, China and Russia welcome new friends.	freshwest	Aug 2012	#287
Mass murderer and torturer Pinochet released by the UK.	Luminous Animal	Aug 2012	#104
Spam deleted by DURHAM D (MIR Team)	numnumnum	Aug 2012	#106
Hmmm, isnt raiding an embassy like an act of war?	HooptieWagon	Aug 2012	#108
Seems like it to me.	davidthegnome	Aug 2012	#109
The UK has an embassy in Quito, I assume?	HooptieWagon	Aug 2012	#112
That is very much	Berlin Expat	Aug 2012	#124
Bullies retreat when punched back.	HooptieWagon	Aug 2012	#155
This show of force may be a ploy to force Ecuador	Matilda	Aug 2012	#113
Yeah. Violating embassy grounds to seize someone just isn't done, period. (nt)	Posteritatis	Aug 2012	#264
This Just In: Britain Pisses On Treaty of Westphalia (1648), Overturns 450	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#119
Assange case could have wider impact on diplomacy	Matilda	Aug 2012	#120
Its unlikely they'd be denied entry anyway.	dipsydoodle	Aug 2012	#122
Rolling Updates and Live video link	corksean	Aug 2012	#133
Britain & the US: Corporate Nazis for the new millenium.	Vidar	Aug 2012	#137
How long did Assange walk the streets of the UK before seeking asylum?	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#170
These women weaken the state's case	Generic Other	Aug 2012	#177
"She's lying! She wanted it!"	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#187
I worked as a rape victim advocate in my younger years	Generic Other	Aug 2012	#206
"Did either struggle?"	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#208
One woman has denied she was "raped"	Generic Other	Aug 2012	#217
From your post	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#220
Her statements should be part of the court record	Generic Other	Aug 2012	#222
This is f__ing insane.	hlthe2b	Aug 2012	#201
The whole thing reeks of a honey-trap setup. Here's how I think it went down.	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#205
Yeah, that's exactly what Obama did.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#207
Well, to start with I'm a Canuck, but politics aside yes, I can see BO doing that.	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#211
"Realist" used to justify absurd, unfounded conspiracy theories.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#213
Yes, it is ironic.	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#216
I think what is commonplace is misplaced idolizing of people to the point of excusing crime	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#219
You gots your opinion, I gots mine.	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#221
Even if he's not a hero, this whole thing still smells like it was a US setup. Now, the UK	leveymg	Aug 2012	#259
Baloney	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#262
Baloney is right. The whole case against him smells of a setup.	leveymg	Aug 2012	#267
Taking sides	tama	Aug 2012	#320
yet the nation of Ecuador disagrees with you	Swagman	Aug 2012	#324
Ofr they're just enjoying being rabble rousers at the expense of rape victims.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#341
So	tama	Aug 2012	#349
Tell me how any of that excuses rape.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#350
What rape?	tama	Aug 2012	#354
msanthrope has more than covered your dismissals and others like them	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#355
Nope :)	tama	Aug 2012	#357
That's pretty much all you've got left isn't it?	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#358
Because the message from many Progressives is clear	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#361
Bullshit.	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#362
Yeah, smear. Sure.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#364
Assange/Polanski comparisons aside	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#365
Before or after	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#366
As I said on edit above	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#367
So, just as I and those like me have said --	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#368
Or it proves that he feels he has something real to fear from other quarters	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#369
And Al Capone went to jail for tax evasion -- so?	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#370
Still refusing to consider what's probably happening here, eh?	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#371
I refuse to indulge baseless fantasies.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#372
Even if he was a rapist (which the ladies in question did not even imply)	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#373
Of course it makes sense.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#374
I guess when the only tool you have is a hammer...	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#375
I'd like to get one thing clear about the "rape".	Matilda	Aug 2012	#378
Thank you for this clarification!	wildbilln864	Aug 2012	#379
Notice nobody has raided the	Londoncalling	Aug 2012	#376
@ 12:38 PST, they say the UK embassy in Ecuador also surrounded by crowds.	freshwest	Aug 2012	#243
No more feed right now, but an observer says it may take a week or more to get this settled.	freshwest	Aug 2012	#285
I've got one for the legal minds	atreides1	Aug 2012	#273
I don't see any. Except the UK is also offended at Assange, right?	freshwest	Aug 2012	#288
Pretty basic	ikri	Aug 2012	#363
Assange stand-off a debate between a threat and a right	Matilda	Aug 2012	#331
'Ello, 'ello, what's goin on 'ere then?	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#345
Thanks	tama	Aug 2012	#348

Response to Matilda (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:26 PM

Pharaoh (6,284 posts)

1. Criminals

And asholes, against international law and would be enraged if this happened to one of their embassies.

UK police descend on Assange's embassy refuge

1. Criminals

5. As i posted in another thread a few moments ago, check the 1987 Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act

8. A dangerous and stupid action on the part of the Brits.

10. Not at all.

12. And that's not at all how it works in international diplomacy

38. Well, you got me there.

42. He wasn't roaming free. He was under house arrest without any charges. Unprecedented. nt

44. You're right but only because he kept fighting the extradition order.

51. Of course he did since the extradition order was a bogus transparent attempt to

54. Don't bring up the 'poison pill' nonsense again.

64. Well, a nerve was struck but it wasn't mine.

89. Trying to have a discussion with a conspiracy theorist is like trying to polish a turd

115. A polished turd

126. What are the charges against him? Everyone in the world would like to know. Perhaps

131. The U.K. a dictatorship? Are you kidding?

232. No, the UK was up to recently, an Empire. It now has attached itself to the US

236. Pinochet? Sure. He wrangled the legal process for all it was worth, same as Assange.

260. Lol, a man accused of genocide, with actual evidence, unlike this sham

291. I don't know the answers to all your questions.

135. Well, I mean, I've given you the link to the finding of the court

231. I read the link, many times. And just as many times I have told you that the Assange

234. Did you miss the charges in the link? nt

255. Those are NOT charges. No charges have been filed against Assange.

270. Ok. Those aren't the charges filled out on the EAW, even though they say they

279. No, they were a quickly cobbled together list of allegations which have never been

284. I suspect they will be once Mr. Assange is there--wouldn't be fair to start without him. nt

318. Sorry, but I simply can't believe you read one word of that document

334. I read every word of it the first time it was released. And no, it is not 'all spelled out there'.

153. Suspicion of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion - according to a Swedish arrest warrant.

156. yeah, that's what you get yourself into when you don't use a condom

158. Swedish law is Swedish law - I think American rape laws are medieval and anti-women.

161. Here are the actual charges---I await an Assange supporter who

164. You posted this in the wrong thread.

166. There are plenty of threads on male privilege throughout DU--read

167. Way to refute the charges! Case closed!

169. I'm not trying to refute the charges.

171. My bad. Sorry for the misinterpretation!

172. No worries. No offense taken.

174. One of the women has recanted

175. Why would any country promise to protect a man who is not their citizen from the rest of the world?

180. Because the charges are bogus + Assange's Wikileaks is deadly to corporate/state malfeasance

181. What did he expose?

185. "What did he expose?"

195. 'Wikileakage'!

189. War crimes by the US, created a pipeline for exposure of every other corrupt state's activities

196. You know what else is a crime?

183. How would Ecuador know Sweden is lying?

191. I presume Assange has given them evidence of that

194. You "presume"?

199. I guess I'm not clear on what you want.

204. What I don't want is another alleged rapist to escape on celebrity status.

210. This case reeks of international machinations to shut down a powerful conduit in exposing crimes

214. This case reeks of

353. Thank You

294. Because it's humane thing to do

298. I'm no expert on STDs.

322. Are you just making shit up?

326. Um, what?

337. I leave you to your protective bubble.

188. Cite it. I gave you the court proceedings link. Cite your allegations. nt

197. These are all common news stories from the Guardian or the NYTimes

200. "Is it that Sweden is refusing to provide guarantees that they won't extradite Assange to the US?"

202. Cite me in the court record where someone recanted. nt

209. Can't. However Anna Ardin has said that she never wanted rape charges to be filed

212. Have you considered that if Mr. Assange's attorneys did not bring it up in court, it's because

377. There are no charges. Those are baseless allegations constructed by, well we do

266. Okay, since you're such an expert, please enlighten us

272. You haven't read the actual charges, have you? nt

280. Oh, I have, but you don't seem to know what you are talking about

295. The charges include forced violence sex and having non-consentual sex with a sleeping women.

302. no they don't

312. I think 'violate her sexual integrity' is close enough.

319. no, it's not anywhere near close

327. None of the allegations listed use the word 'rape'.

356. You should quickly inform the City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court

359. Why is the UK threatening to bring down a pillar of international diplomacy

323. England, Wales, the US...

230. 'Suspicion' thank you. And where are the charges, the evidence, after two years?

233. Here's the charges....