Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:02 PM
alp227 (20,498 posts)
Facebook page calls for American-only hours at U.S. Costco (at Bellingham, Wash.)
Source: CBC
Many Canadians are taking advantage of the high Canadian dollar by shopping across the border — with cheap milk and gas being two of the big draws — but some Americans are fed up with the cross-border crowd. Some Bellingham, Wa., residents started a Facebook page calling for American-only hours at the local Costco. On the Facebook page "Bellingham Costco needs a special time just for Americans," residents write that they have seen flats of milk stripped away in seconds. Some write that they have to wait in long lines at the Costco gas station as Canadians fill up first their cars, and then their gas cans. Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/08/12/bc-bellingham-costco-canadians.html I wonder how many people somewhere like San Diego or El Paso would openly call for "American-only" hours at a local business because they don't like those rude, smelly (and in their racist minds, "illegal") Mexicans?
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| alp227 | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| ejpoeta | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| nichomachus | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| Posteritatis | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Aug 2012 | #51 | |
| Scootaloo | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| SoapBox | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| sulphurdunn | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| Manifestor_of_Light | Aug 2012 | #47 | |
| boppers | Aug 2012 | #48 | |
| SemperEadem | Aug 2012 | #49 | |
| lunasun | Aug 2012 | #56 | |
| Manifestor_of_Light | Aug 2012 | #60 | |
| SemperEadem | Aug 2012 | #61 | |
| lunasun | Aug 2012 | #62 | |
| DBoon | Aug 2012 | #55 | |
| Mutt22 | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| jtuck004 | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| Did I Just Type This | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| robinlynne | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| Maine-ah | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| jtuck004 | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| AngryAmish | Aug 2012 | #50 | |
| Mutt22 | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| Sen. Walter Sobchak | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| Hyper_Eye | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| earthside | Aug 2012 | #52 | |
| OrwellwasRight | Aug 2012 | #58 | |
| marlakay | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| RKP5637 | Aug 2012 | #34 | |
| dsteve01 | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| Posteritatis | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| high density | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| ZombieHorde | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| RKP5637 | Aug 2012 | #33 | |
| Posteritatis | Aug 2012 | #37 | |
| LoisB | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| LoisB | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| RKP5637 | Aug 2012 | #32 | |
| Douglas Carpenter | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| aquart | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| BlueJazz | Aug 2012 | #36 | |
| 1monster | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| cilla4progress | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| sendero | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| IndyJones | Aug 2012 | #39 | |
| progressivebydesign | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| susanna | Aug 2012 | #40 | |
| amandabeech | Aug 2012 | #43 | |
| davidpdx | Aug 2012 | #45 | |
| hedgehog | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| sosilly | Aug 2012 | #44 | |
| RKP5637 | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| tawadi | Aug 2012 | #35 | |
| cilla4progress | Aug 2012 | #41 | |
| IndyJones | Aug 2012 | #38 | |
| MADem | Aug 2012 | #42 | |
| davidpdx | Aug 2012 | #46 | |
| mac56 | Aug 2012 | #54 | |
| Javaman | Aug 2012 | #53 | |
| Generic Other | Aug 2012 | #57 | |
| agent zero | Aug 2012 | #59 |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:07 PM
ejpoeta (8,693 posts)
1. that is ludicrous. the cross border business is good for the area. We get it in buffalo
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from canadians crossing the border. they would do stories about canadians throwing their clothes everywhere and the trash they would leave from their purchases. now there are donation boxes around for them to put their clothes and such. the positive of having the people come to buffalo and spend their money outweighs any negatives as far as i am concerned.
Tell me if the dollar wasn't worth a lot more than the canadian dollar the traffic would be the other way!! i know because I remember going to canada when I was younger and the dollar was worth more there. |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:07 PM
nichomachus (10,085 posts)
2. Why do I have the feeling
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That when the Canadian dollar was worth way less, those Wasington residents were doing the same thing in reverse.
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Response to nichomachus (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:14 PM
Posteritatis (17,302 posts)
12. Probably because they were. (nt)
Response to nichomachus (Reply #2)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:19 AM
southernyankeebelle (10,726 posts)
51. Your right. How selffish america looks. I lived in MT near Sunburst and the Canadians use
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to come on the weekends to shop. Our citizens go over to get their medicines. How sad the reaction of the americans.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:07 PM
Scootaloo (5,885 posts)
3. Christ, what privileged little shits
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"Whaaa, I have to wait in line! snivel snivel"
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:09 PM
SoapBox (5,827 posts)
4. Another bit of American stoopid.
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Last edited Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:11 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Man, can these idiots make us look any dumber than we already are?
Maybe CostCo should just shut down that location? That would solve all the problems, right? Hmm, let's see, many many out of work, the city will have a HUGE lose of property and business tax revenue, the property would sit empty, not to mention sales tax...and on and on. The complaining idiots better hope that even more Canadians come to shop in the good old U.S. of A. |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:22 PM
sulphurdunn (3,502 posts)
5. Who says wingnuts
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only hate minorities? They hate Frogs, Canucks, liberals and democrats too, even if they're white.
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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #5)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:51 AM
Manifestor_of_Light (16,312 posts)
47. Frogs? What group is a Frog from??
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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #47)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:21 AM
boppers (16,588 posts)
48. Er, seriously?
Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #47)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:26 AM
SemperEadem (7,998 posts)
49. France
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that is the slang term for a French person.
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Response to SemperEadem (Reply #49)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:41 AM
lunasun (3,627 posts)
56. French Canadians a xenophobic nightmare
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Not American and ...they don't (choose to)speak English!!!
maybe they could require the store to ask for passports along with the club card so they could lose the border bizness immediately Costco should agree if they are " real Americans" |
Response to lunasun (Reply #56)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:43 PM
Manifestor_of_Light (16,312 posts)
60. The name I heard for French-Canadians was "Quebecois scum".
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Response to lunasun (Reply #56)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:34 PM
SemperEadem (7,998 posts)
61. technically, they are real Americans
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Canada is part of North America.
They are not United States citizens. |
Response to SemperEadem (Reply #61)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:39 PM
lunasun (3,627 posts)
62. well then technically the" American only -hours thingy" wont work very well for them that request it
Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #47)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:26 AM
DBoon (12,253 posts)
55. amphibians
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the most secret and yet dastardly group covertly supporting the islamo-marxist agenda.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:49 PM
Mutt22 (76 posts)
6. So maybe Costco just has better prices than Canadian stores?
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The exchange rate right now according to Yahoo is:
$1 US = $.9929 Canadian. Also : USD/CAD (USDCAD=X) -CCY Prev Close: 0.9911 Open: 0.9916 Bid: 0.9929 Ask: 0.9934 Day's Range: 0.9907 - 0.9968 52wk Range: 0.9725 - 1.0656 Quotes delayed, except where indicated otherwise. Currency in CAD. There doesn't seem to be that big of difference, what am I not getting here? |
Response to Mutt22 (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:02 PM
jtuck004 (5,101 posts)
8. Gal of milk canada $4-5. Here, $2 something. Bread cheaper here. Gas cheaper here.
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Can pay for the trip buying case lots, cases for others, if it's close enough, iirc. |
Response to jtuck004 (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:08 PM
Did I Just Type This (77 posts)
10. 2 something for milk?
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I guess it depends on where you live, 4.25 in massachusetts, over five in NY.
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Response to Did I Just Type This (Reply #10)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:52 PM
robinlynne (15,172 posts)
15. 2.79 in los angeles
Response to Did I Just Type This (Reply #10)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:50 PM
Maine-ah (9,868 posts)
18. Milk prices are set by the state.
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my husband sells it for a buck less than where you're getting it in MA. Every week the state sends the prices to the retailers. Last week they upped it by a whole penny, making hubby's job a pain in the ass because you can't sell it for less than what the state says.
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Response to Did I Just Type This (Reply #10)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:43 PM
jtuck004 (5,101 posts)
22. Ouch.
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$2.74 down the road, and I think Winco was a little lower. I wonder if it's has to do with subsidies, logistics, or ? But that's the commercial stuff. The smaller dairy, not so processed, local, is $5 or more, depending on who you get it from. |
Response to Did I Just Type This (Reply #10)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:06 AM
AngryAmish (19,625 posts)
50. There are government run regional milk cartels
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You can't sell Wisconsin milk in Florida for example. If you live in a high cost milk producing region then you are stuck.
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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:48 PM
Mutt22 (76 posts)
14. Thanks
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I thought maybe the dollar was weaker than I thought until I checked currency exchange rates. That explains why they come over. We have cheaper food and gas, they have cheaper medicine.
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Response to Mutt22 (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:27 PM
Sen. Walter Sobchak (5,673 posts)
21. Costco's in Canada are a ripoff
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but Canadian Costco memberships are valid in the US.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:50 PM
Hyper_Eye (544 posts)
7. How did we get here?
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We are at the point that Canadians are crossing the border to buy cheaper goods in America the same way I remember driving to Juarez (from El Paso) to do the same thing. Next thing you know Americans will be waiting at the border with shopping carts of goods to sell the middle-class Canadians. Hey Congress!!! Can we please stimulate our economy now?!?
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Response to Hyper_Eye (Reply #7)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:35 AM
earthside (4,640 posts)
52. But that's the problem.
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The deficits, debt, quantitive easing, bailouts, loans, stimulus,etc. have devalued the U.S. dollar vis-a-vis the Canadian dollar (for example).
Inflation is taking its toll. The way to reinvigorate the U.S. economy is not to print even more dollars ... what we really need to do is re-prioritize. There is plenty of money, but a trillion dollars a year is going into the rathole of homeland/national security, that money needs to be used to cut the debt and rebuild infrastructure. Hundreds of billions of dollars are going to corporate welfare and tax breaks/cuts for the super rich, that money needs to go to shore-up our 'safety net' programs. We don't need more debt. But, of course, you and I both know that rearranging our national priorities to the benefit of working people isn't going to happen. |
Response to earthside (Reply #52)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:05 PM
OrwellwasRight (2,909 posts)
58. Wha?????
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Um, no. Our "stimulus" efforts were half-hearted at best. They were weak, had a small, but not sufficient stimulant effect, and most certainly have not resulted in inflation. Inflation is low, low, low. It is all the Fed cares about. The Fed needs to get off its ass and have concern about unemployment. It needs to let inflation occur.
You'll know when that happens. It won't be Canadians driving across the corder to save .0002 of a dollar. It will mean a big upswing in US exports and a big decrease in US imports, because our goods will be relatively more cheap (to buyers in more than just Canada) and we will not be able to afford so many imports. That is not on the verge of happening because it is not in Wall street's interest for that to happen. They are the biggest promoters of the strong dollar policy becasue its attracts capital to our financial markets so they can keep playing "monopoly" games with real money. Workers (debtors) actually benefit from inflation. We should encourage it (within limits of course -- no one wants the Weimar Republic). |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:06 PM
marlakay (4,213 posts)
9. Wonder how they felt
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When it was cheaper for us to go there....
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Response to marlakay (Reply #9)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:08 PM
RKP5637 (25,620 posts)
34. I used to go there and always felt welcome. n/t
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:13 PM
dsteve01 (152 posts)
11. Another example of why Government intervention in Markets is Necessary
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Do you hear me, REPUBLICAN TICKET?
Can you hear me? |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:15 PM
Posteritatis (17,302 posts)
13. How do they intend to enforce that? Check everyone's papers at the door? (nt)
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:54 PM
high density (13,383 posts)
16. Costco should open up another store closer to the Canadian border
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if it is such a draw for them.
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Response to high density (Reply #16)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:49 PM
ZombieHorde (23,866 posts)
29. That may actually be a really good idea, if the "problem" is as big as some make it out to be. nt
Response to high density (Reply #16)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:07 PM
RKP5637 (25,620 posts)
33. Yep!!! n/t
Response to high density (Reply #16)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:50 PM
Posteritatis (17,302 posts)
37. They operate up here anyway. There's two in my hometown actually.
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Probably depends a lot on specific locations. Maybe they feel they're getting better money with the US business plus the cross-border traffic than if they opened two locations.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:13 PM
LoisB (501 posts)
17. ...but it is ok for Americans to go to Canada for cheaper prescription drugs???
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If people (Canadians) are carting away flats of milk, why not impose a limit on the # of each item that can be purchased during one visit? Sounds as if anyone buying a flat of milk is buying for resale or for every family in a community.
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Response to LoisB (Reply #17)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:00 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,880 posts)
19. You buy for several people...sorta like Co-Op buying.
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Around here, people close to the Fla. border do same thing, cause no sales tax in Fla. on food. Here, 9.5% sales tax, plus higher food prices. A Sunday morning run to a Fla. shopping center can save over 50.00 easily. Even accounting for gas.
So whoever was interested in making a run or had business in Pensacola, would get grocery lists from friends. |
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #19)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:45 PM
LoisB (501 posts)
27. Makes sense to me. I would think we would welcome Canadians and anyone else who wants
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to spend money in this country.
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Response to LoisB (Reply #17)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:06 PM
RKP5637 (25,620 posts)
32. It's also supply and demand. Sounds like a situation for more supply if the
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demand is up that much. At least IMO.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:11 PM
Douglas Carpenter (15,148 posts)
20. so now we are being plagued by hordes of wild Canadians
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I wonder when they'll start stealing our womenfolk?
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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #20)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:06 PM
aquart (67,538 posts)
24. Hopefully, real soon.
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Let's all make an effort to catch the eye of every eligible Canadian wheat farmer we can find.
This is not a joke. |
Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #20)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:27 PM
BlueJazz (17,766 posts)
36. It's getting pretty bad. I took this shot a few days ago.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:51 PM
1monster (8,738 posts)
23. I know this article has to be bogus, 'cause everyone knows, Canadians are NICE!!!
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:11 PM
cilla4progress (2,970 posts)
25. I'm sorry but just came from there
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and it is, truly, a zoo...crowded beyond belief; parking lot full of Canadian license plates; 30 min. or so wait for gas. Don't know if there are shortages or not.
So it's all true. Doesn't seem super-equitable, but perhaps it is simply "the market, working" and must be tolerated. Any suggestions for solutions other than stay away? |
Response to cilla4progress (Reply #25)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:40 PM
sendero (25,000 posts)
26. Expand the store..
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.... stock more of the things that run out?
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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #25)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:34 PM
IndyJones (1,061 posts)
39. I would just go to another store. I just did a location search and there are four other stores
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within 25 miles or so of that location.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:47 PM
progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)
28. Bad idea. But can we get the Canadians to stop driving like assholes through the Puget Sound area?
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The worst, most aggressive, drivers. Ever.
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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #28)
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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #28)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:22 AM
amandabeech (8,298 posts)
43. Worse than the New Jersey drivers I used to dodge when I lived in New York?
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Their motion seemed to be random and lane lines seemed to be only suggestions as to where they should drive the vehicle with respect to the curbs.
Off the limited access highways, though, they weren't very fast. Just random. |
Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #28)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:49 AM
davidpdx (8,809 posts)
45. If you think the Canadians are bad you haven't seen anything
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until you've seen the Chinese drive. It scared the hell out of me.
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:53 PM
hedgehog (30,429 posts)
30. I'd be curious as to where the price differential on milk comes from -
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Does Canada require that retailers pay farmers enough to ensure a decent profit? Does canada require farmers to pay their workers a decent wage.
Cheap milk in America comes at the expense of the cattle, the farmer and the farm worker! |
Response to hedgehog (Reply #30)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:40 AM
sosilly (5 posts)
44. It is government-related.
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It is related to the government trying to protect the dairy farmers:
The decades-old system was designed to protect Canadian farmers from volatile market fluctuations with made-in-Canada minimum prices. It also imposes tariff controls on foreign competition and sets quotas for domestic producers.
http://www.vancouverobserver.com/food/2011/11/20/mystery-behind-high-canadian-cheese-prices-revealed?page=0,0 From what I understand, the problem in this Washington town is that they have a ban on big box retailers thus not allowing Costco to expand the store to accommodate the added shoppers. I can see why Costco wouldn't just build another store....who knows how long this will last. I remember driving over to Canada as a kid in the 70's to get gas. I also remember the exchange rate being heavily in our favor not that long ago where $1US = $1.35CDN. But for now the Canadians are coming here to shop. For now. |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:03 PM
RKP5637 (25,620 posts)
31. More American Exceptionalism, I guess. n/t
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:11 PM
tawadi (1,994 posts)
35. I'm going to go out on a limb here
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Is it possible the people of this border town are just tired of the crowds and long lines.
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Response to tawadi (Reply #35)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:03 AM
cilla4progress (2,970 posts)
41. You got it!
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Last edited Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:04 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Siimple. Thanks!
All I can say is the exchange rate must be hella good for Canadians! Eh?! |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:30 PM
IndyJones (1,061 posts)
38. Maybe just go to a different Costco?
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Last edited Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:35 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:19 AM
MADem (86,143 posts)
42. This happens in Maine all the time, too. It saves some of the more economically depressed
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towns, frankly. People come for the WALMART and the other shops, get some cheap gas, and then take in a movie or go have a meal.
Any idiot can fire up a facebook page--consider the source. |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:51 AM
davidpdx (8,809 posts)
46. This would be a great episode for South Park
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I can just hear it now "Oh those damn pushy Canadians are invading OUR grocery stores!"
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Response to davidpdx (Reply #46)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:50 AM
mac56 (13,654 posts)
54. "Blame Canada!"
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Response to alp227 (Original post)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:46 AM
Javaman (40,662 posts)
53. LOL I'm sure Costco has no problem with the Canadians. nt
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:29 PM
Generic Other (20,306 posts)
57. I used to live in B'ham and see it differently
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It is a small college town. The locals if they are lucky work at the pulp mill or fish in Alaska. Mostly a blue collar town. Plus lots of marginally employed hippies and artists who are living off the land to some extent or another. The Canadians who flock to the town are a source of income for the big box stores. They are the main reason such stores even got built in the town since the locals probably couldn't have attracted the businesses on their own. The Canadians contribute to the town's economy, but they are also a source of irritation as they cannot help but impact the small town lives they invade.
The main tensions between the locals and Canadians is the volume of traffic generated, the fact that Canadians don't take free right turns when they drive, and the lines they create everywhere. Also, the clear economic differences between the Canadian visitors and the locals. An undercurrent of incivility based on local feelings of being invaded and abused. I always used to laugh at the sight of the Winnebagos from Canada circling their wagons outside the K-Mart on a Friday night as they waited for the stores to open. The new West--one big strip mall to heaven. I think the Bellinghamsters are better compared to the Mexicans living in border towns. The Canadians are like American gringos. They bring their dollars and their rules. It is a love/hate relationship between the ruling class and the ruled. |
Response to alp227 (Original post)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:26 PM
agent zero (33 posts)
59. American-only hours? I love it.


