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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:17 AM Aug 2012

Summer storm spins over Arctic

Source: Phys.org



The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite captured this natural-color mosaic image on Aug. 6, 2012. The center of the storm at that date was located in the middle of the Arctic Ocean.

The storm had an unusually low central pressure area. Paul A. Newman, chief scientist for Atmospheric Sciences at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., estimates that there have only been about eight storms of similar strength during the month of August in the last 34 years of satellite records. “It’s an uncommon event, especially because it’s occurring in the summer. Polar lows are more usual in the winter,” Newman said.

Arctic storms such as this one can have a large impact on the sea ice, causing it to melt rapidly through many mechanisms, such as tearing off large swaths of ice and pushing them to warmer sites, churning the ice and making it slushier, or lifting warmer waters from the depths of the Arctic Ocean.

“It seems that this storm has detached a large chunk of ice from the main sea ice pack. This could lead to a more serious decay of the summertime ice cover than would have been the case otherwise, even perhaps leading to a new Arctic sea ice minimum,” said Claire Parkinson, a climate scientist with NASA Goddard. “Decades ago, a storm of the same magnitude would have been less likely to have as large an impact on the sea ice, because at that time the ice cover was thicker and more expansive.”



Read more: http://phys.org/news/2012-08-summer-storm-arctic.html



It's really hard to overstate the significance of this event. You see, an ice free arctic could well result in the kind of extreme droughts and heating seen in our breadbasket becoming a permanent weather feature of the planet. The heartland of the USA becomes the new Sahara.

Many arctic scientists are running around with their hair on fire. And that was before this event. See:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-reese-halter/missing-sea-ice-ameg-and-_b_1753994.html

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Summer storm spins over Arctic (Original Post) Junkdrawer Aug 2012 OP
FYI: DUer Four Score posted a GD thread yesterday with links to climate blogs... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #1
Whatever. progressoid Aug 2012 #2
The lack of mainstream news coverage is staggering.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #3
Andrew Revkin just posted at the NYT.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #12
Most likely response to this: Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #20
Time's NewsFeeds just picked it up.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #24
Right on, Did I Just Type This Aug 2012 #8
Thanks a pantload, Republicans, for all your craven, greedy lying and dithering about this shit Berlum Aug 2012 #4
If anyone is responsible, it's gotta be the guy from Houston who opened the China market and leveymg Aug 2012 #6
Similar 2008 storm originated in Siberia dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #9
I blame Nixon for opening up the China market slackmaster Aug 2012 #15
GHW was Nixon's Ambassador to China. leveymg Aug 2012 #19
GHW was and is a VERY busy man Hydra Aug 2012 #34
LOL Did I Just Type This Aug 2012 #7
Its not one parties fault. benjahmeen Aug 2012 #11
You do know the republicans call climate change "junk science". SalviaBlue Aug 2012 #13
The USA is certainly the largest single consumer of fossil fuels, but that's not the whole story slackmaster Aug 2012 #16
But, China is the largest CO2 emitter, when you include cement production leveymg Aug 2012 #21
BullPucky Berlum Aug 2012 #17
Of course, but the Party of No has denied this and consistently voted against anything uppityperson Aug 2012 #26
Fail. blackspade Aug 2012 #31
Nice try. StrictlyRockers Aug 2012 #32
Thank the Industrial Revolution NickB79 Aug 2012 #33
Beautiful and scary Stargazer09 Aug 2012 #5
x2 Smilo Aug 2012 #22
Zombies, Republicans and Global Warming.... Evasporque Aug 2012 #10
Nixon's fault. Every one of them. slackmaster Aug 2012 #14
The GOP and the RNC are the continuing criminal conspiracy. Never blame the lackeys! Coyotl Aug 2012 #25
Wait, zombies are real? abelenkpe Aug 2012 #18
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #23
tipping heaven05 Aug 2012 #27
This event hits the two biggest directly.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #28
oh man! heaven05 Aug 2012 #29
The Contracting Timeframe Problem Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #30
Oh, no Hydra Aug 2012 #35

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
3. The lack of mainstream news coverage is staggering....
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:09 AM
Aug 2012

Mother Nature just took the thawing hamburger of the arctic and broke it into a dozen chunks.

Dinner will be ahead of schedule, and guess who is on the menu?

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
20. Most likely response to this:
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:57 AM
Aug 2012

Commodity brokers are betting on a sharp rise in long-term feed corn futures BEFORE the news hits the mainstream.

Get my broker on the phone....

 
8. Right on,
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:33 AM
Aug 2012

This arctic storm isn't nearly as important as a cat traveling hundreds of miles to be reunited with its family (5 minute news spot and all).

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
4. Thanks a pantload, Republicans, for all your craven, greedy lying and dithering about this shit
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
Aug 2012

YOU are responsible for causing America and the world to fart around and do diddley squat while
pollution worsened and worsened.

YOU, Republicans, denied reality and rammed a corporately funded (R) campaign onslaught of lies at America and the world about the obvious truth.

You, Republicans, screwed America and the planet based on your own ignorance, fear, and greed.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. If anyone is responsible, it's gotta be the guy from Houston who opened the China market and
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:27 AM
Aug 2012

sold them our automobile/high carbon footprint culture and started the process of shipping our factories over there, where they grew to be ten times as big and dirty as what we once had here.

The entire planet thanks GHW for cheap Chinese plastics and the other wonder things he's done for the world.



dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
9. Similar 2008 storm originated in Siberia
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:42 AM
Aug 2012


The impacts of increased open water in the Beaufort Sea were investigated for a summer Arctic storm in 2008 using a coupled atmosphere-ice-ocean model. The storm originated in northern Siberia and slowly moved into the Beaufort Sea along the ice edge in late July. The maximum wind associated with the storm occurred when it was located over the open water near the Beaufort Sea coast, after it had moved over the Chukchi and Beaufort Seas. The coupled model system is shown to simulate the storm track, intensity, maximum wind speed and the ice cover well. The model simulations suggest that the lack of ice cover in the Beaufort Sea during the 2008 storm results in increased local surface wind and surface air temperature, compared to enhanced ice cover extents such as occurred in past decades. In addition, due to this increase of open water, the surface latent and sensible heat fluxes into the atmosphere are significantly increased. However, there were no significant impacts on the storm track. The expanded open water and the loss of the sea ice results in increases in the surface air temperature by as much as 8°C. Although the atmospheric warming mostly occurs in the boundary layer, there is increased atmospheric boundary turbulence and downward kinetic energy transport that reach to mid-levels of the troposphere and beyond. These changes result in enhanced surface winds, by as much as ?4 m/s during the 2008 storm, compared to higher ice concentration conditions (typical of past decades). The dominant sea surface temperature response to the storm occurs over open water; storm-generated mixing in the upper ocean results in sea surface cooling of up to 2°C along the southern Beaufort Sea coastal waters. The Ekman divergence associated with the storm caused a decrease in the fresh water content in the central Beaufort Sea by about 11 cm.

http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2012/2011JD016985.shtml

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
19. GHW was Nixon's Ambassador to China.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:56 AM
Aug 2012

The guy on the ground, who had all the meetings where the details got hashed out and enduring relationships made.

I think Bush deserves enormous credit for how things have turned out in 2012 for America and around the globe, for bad or worse. Even, if it's humanly possible, for the weather.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
34. GHW was and is a VERY busy man
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:34 PM
Aug 2012

And I think the world would have been a better place right now if he'd been a lazy sot instead.

benjahmeen

(5 posts)
11. Its not one parties fault.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:21 AM
Aug 2012

Of course its easier to blame one person or entity, but all of lawmakers have voted to rape our environment for years. This is a world issue and not just a republican vs democrat issue.

Stop being so partisan and look at the bigger picture, more than the USA and its policies contribute to GLOBAL warming.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
17. BullPucky
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:49 AM
Aug 2012

We don't need no steenkin False Equivalency around here.

Republicans have made a RELIGION out of denying climate change.

Republicans need to man up and take responsibility for their willful ignorance, fear and greed -- and for the massive harm they have done in the world.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
26. Of course, but the Party of No has denied this and consistently voted against anything
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:48 AM
Aug 2012

that could help. Who sets USA policies? Congress. Who is the Party of No?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
31. Fail.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 02:18 PM
Aug 2012

The Republicons and their corporate puppet masters are the primary obstacles for any meaningful policy changes re: the environment.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
32. Nice try.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:49 PM
Aug 2012

The reason why it is easier to blame one party is because, on this issue, one party is clearly much more to blame for denial and obstructionism and preventing meaningful debate or progress. The Republicans are "reality impaired" here. The facts are not to their liking, so they ignore them or deny them. They have done this consistently. If you have not noticed, you are not paying attention.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
33. Thank the Industrial Revolution
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:53 PM
Aug 2012

Humanity started down this road the moment we started burning large amounts of coal and oil to build modern civilization.

The time to stop this trainwreck passed decades ago.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
5. Beautiful and scary
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:20 AM
Aug 2012

I took an oceanography class in college several years ago, and since then, it's pretty obvious to me that we owe our current lifestyle and climate to the oceans' circulation.

I wish more people would pay attention to the truly delicate balance we have right now. Just the right amount of hot and cold to keep the oceans circulating, bringing temperate temperatures to many parts of the globe that might not be so temperate otherwise.

Things could get worse before we have a chance to turns things around.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
22. x2
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:27 AM
Aug 2012

You are so correct beautiful - reminds me of Van Gogh's "Starry Night" - but with very scary consequences.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
25. The GOP and the RNC are the continuing criminal conspiracy. Never blame the lackeys!
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:46 AM
Aug 2012

The RNC finds guys like Nixon, Reagan, and Bush to further their agenda. Look to the big picture and the continuity while the lackeys just come and go in quick succession.

It is never the butler who commits the crime

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
27. tipping
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:56 AM
Aug 2012

does anyone recognize that tipping points are real and that we are, globally, near a catastrophic tipping point that will affect every man, woman child, animal species, aquatic species, oh the hell with it, every living thing?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
29. oh man!
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:45 PM
Aug 2012

I didn't know russia was experiencing massive wildfires also. Nothing in MSM. Only thing I know,the perpetrators of this massive crime will go out just like me, and that's some solace. thanks for the link, bookmarked.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
30. The Contracting Timeframe Problem
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:17 PM
Aug 2012

Leaders under stress contract their timeframes for action to shorter and shorter periods.

So, Hitler strutting in France thought in terms of a 1000 year Reich...
Hitler in the bunker thought of months...weeks...days...and then seconds.

When we had time to act reasonably, leaders were told of problems 50 to 100 years out. They literally couldn't hear ya.

We're experiencing Big problems now and Huge problems 5 to 10 years out. It's just starting to hit their radar and they want to apply solutions they were given 10 to 20 years ago.

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