Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:29 PM
Judi Lynn (77,618 posts)
Coloradoans likely to vote on ‘fetal personhood’ for a third time in November
Source: Raw Story
Coloradoans likely to vote on ‘fetal personhood’ for a third time in November By Eric W. Dolan Wednesday, August 8, 2012 18:04 EDT
Personhood Colorado has announced it collected 112,121 signatures for a proposed anti-abortion amendment to the state’s constitution. If 86,105 of those signatures are valid, the proposed amendment will be placed on the Colorado ballot for the third time in four years. “Once again, we are amazed at the tenacity of our nearly fifteen hundred volunteers,” said Rosalinda Lozano of Rachel’s Vineyard, one of the sponsors of the proposed amendment. “We had seven fewer weeks to petition due to another failed lawsuit from Planned Parenthood, yet we are turning in over thirty thousand signatures more than in 2010.” The ballot measure would define a human being as “a member of the species homo sapiens at any stage of development.” The proposed amendment is meant to set up a legal challenge to Roe v. Wade, by completely prohibiting a woman from terminating her pregnancy, even in cases of incest or rape. A similar constitutional amendment was defeated by Colorado voters in 2008 and again 2010. Critics of the previous amendments claimed that it would do more than just outlaw abortion. They said it would also affect common birth control methods, the treatment of ectopic pregnancy, in vitro fertilization treatment, and stem cell research. Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/08/coloradoans-likely-to-vote-on-fetal-personhood-for-a-third-time-in-november/
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| Judi Lynn | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| CrispyQ | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| Botany | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| xxqqqzme | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| lame54 | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| Judi Lynn | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| HockeyMom | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| grantcart | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| davidpdx | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| Panasonic | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| davidpdx | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| CrispyQ | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| Thor_MN | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| davidpdx | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| smirkymonkey | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| Judi Lynn | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| tanyev | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| uppityperson | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| sakabatou | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| Panasonic | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| Lone_Star_Dem | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| Drahthaardogs | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| sofa king | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| blaze | Aug 2012 | #25 |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:34 PM
CrispyQ (16,039 posts)
1. I am so goddamned fucking sick of this goddamned fucking shit.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:34 PM
Botany (36,048 posts)
2. All men opposed to abortion should never get one.
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"they" are against abortion but they are against birth control, health care,
education, and helping out people in general ...... when you are a fetus they are all there but once you are born you are on your own. |
Response to Botany (Reply #2)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:32 PM
Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (3,176 posts)
26. +1
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:37 PM
xxqqqzme (13,433 posts)
3. Here in California,
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we had to put up w/ 'parental notification' as a constitutional amendment. It fined and imprisoned doctors if they did not notify parents of a minor seeking a termination. It was defeated 3 times in 5 years, each time by a larger majority. They tried again in 2010 and couldn't get enough signatures to turn the measure into the SoS.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:38 PM
lame54 (13,347 posts)
4. Can fetuses vote?
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:49 PM
azurnoir (26,657 posts)
5. maybe someone should start a meme that 4 in 5 fetus's born to single mothers
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will grow up to be Democrats , that'll stop 'em if nothing else does
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #5)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:29 AM
Judi Lynn (77,618 posts)
20. Now there's a thought! Good one, indeed. It'd be bound to work. n/t
Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #20)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:39 PM
azurnoir (26,657 posts)
24. The best part is I'm betting it's true
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They're just that clueless
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:11 PM
HockeyMom (10,713 posts)
6. My ectopic "person" could never have been born
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from my fallopian tube. Dead "baby". Dead woman. Never conceived, or born, younger sibling.
WHO has a "right to life"? Me? Younger sibling? Or a doomed embyro in a fallopian tube? |
Response to HockeyMom (Reply #6)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:15 PM
grantcart (38,744 posts)
7. or in the terms of these nutjobs it is a crime scene.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:20 PM
davidpdx (8,796 posts)
8. I'd like to see states pass laws saying the same ballot measure can't be voted on again for 3 years
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if it is defeated. These people believe they can dupe the voters if they just keep putting the measure on the ballot.
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Response to davidpdx (Reply #8)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:18 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
15. I've voted for the same damn amendment in '08 and '10 and it's back again.
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If anything at all, that petition should be banned from consideration for at least 10 years. Any attempts to go-around that ban will increase the ban to another 10 years, effectively banning pro-lifers from fucking with other people's lives.
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Response to Panasonic (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:01 AM
davidpdx (8,796 posts)
18. It's frustrating for sure
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Similar stuff has happened in Oregon, but not nearly as bad as that. Maybe we keep our crazies in check better then you guys do.
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Response to Panasonic (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
CrispyQ (16,039 posts)
27. ++++1!
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This shit keeps cropping it's ugly head election after election. Time to decapitate it.
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Response to davidpdx (Reply #8)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:48 PM
Thor_MN (4,605 posts)
17. Change even one word and it's a different measure...
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I can't imagine trying to get people to agree that it is substantially the same measure and should not be allowed.
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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #17)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:02 AM
davidpdx (8,796 posts)
19. That's true, the loopholes that would be put in would likely be big enough to drive a tank
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through them.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:30 PM
smirkymonkey (11,674 posts)
9. I think abortion should be legal until the "person" is about, well...
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about - how old is that guy in the photo?
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:35 AM
Judi Lynn (77,618 posts)
21. If there'd ever be a case -> for <- abortion, he'd be the first exhibit. n/t
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:52 PM
tanyev (22,094 posts)
10. Because it's not a democracy until they get their way!
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:01 PM
uppityperson (74,213 posts)
11. k&r to get on greatest page for wider exposure.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:04 PM
sakabatou (29,081 posts)
12. I think it's time to bring George Carlin from the dead:
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:15 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
13. *sigh* Those pro-lifers don't get it. We said NO twice before.
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While I'm voting FUCK YES on Amendment 64 (make pot legal), That personhood amendment will be voted out.
Any more attempts to put it in again by the election should be banned from petitioning and held in prison for wasting Colorado's time and money on an useless amendment that will never pass. Any pro-lifers should be paying the State $5 million to have the petition EVEN considered (before rejecting) and keeping the money. But first, we must remove Gessler from SoS, and we can't remove him until '14, I think. He replaced a very good SoS who has kept integrity on the election side. Gessler is already busy trying to disenfranchise the voters, but the courts are kicking his ass right now. |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:17 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,502 posts)
14. I bet he supports war and the death penalty. nt
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:40 PM
Lone_Star_Dem (27,597 posts)
16. If at first you don't succeed, use the same shit to rally your base to the polls again.
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Sadly, the people this is aimed at don't get that they're being played. They don't expect it to pass, it's just to get the people most likely to vote against a Democrat in office to the polls.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:54 AM
Drahthaardogs (1,260 posts)
22. Damn I wish Focus on the Family would get the hell out of Colorado Springs.
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It was always a different city, not really "Colorado", but these whackjobs have to leave. They are setting policy for the whole state. Focus on the Family and Douglas Bruce = two worst things that ever happened to Colorado.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:06 AM
sofa king (8,704 posts)
23. It's working against them, now.
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The demographics have changed, and I would hazard the guess that they have changed faster than anyone thought because the people who shambled to the polls to oppose it have died from Republican causes.
And yes, I think there is a lot of irony in that, because if those people had voted just once in their own best interests instead of telling people they don't know what they can do with their own internal plumbing, they would still be an important political lobby today. Instead, they are old, sick, dying, and being told to go out and vote to raise their own taxes. Spike it for us, Coloradans! |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:24 PM
blaze (2,470 posts)

