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Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:28 AM

Fire Breaks Out on 88th Floor of 1 WTC

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Source: NBC

Nearly 90 firefighters are battling a fire on the 88th floor of 1 World Trade Center, fire officials said.

The fire was reported to the FDNY just before 7:45 a.m. Wednesday and is ongoing, officials said. The size of the blaze wasn't known.

No one was inside the building when the flames erupted.

It wasn't immediately clear what caused the blaze.

Read more: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Fire-World-Trade-Center-Tower-Police-Firefighters-165405566.html



Now contained (or possibly even a false alarm)...

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Reply Fire Breaks Out on 88th Floor of 1 WTC (Original post)
Bosonic Aug 2012 OP
Lawlbringer Aug 2012 #1
SkyDaddy7 Aug 2012 #22
Ter Aug 2012 #39
Thor_MN Aug 2012 #48
Ter Aug 2012 #53
jmowreader Aug 2012 #49
UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #50
Codeine Aug 2012 #56
Justice wanted Aug 2012 #2
Bosonic Aug 2012 #3
Justice wanted Aug 2012 #11
madaboutharry Aug 2012 #4
Justice wanted Aug 2012 #10
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2012 #6
Justice wanted Aug 2012 #9
Equate Aug 2012 #16
rfranklin Aug 2012 #5
Th1onein Aug 2012 #7
canoeist52 Aug 2012 #14
KansDem Aug 2012 #20
Politicalboi Aug 2012 #29
lunatica Aug 2012 #30
AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #35
lunatica Aug 2012 #37
KansDem Aug 2012 #36
jberryhill Aug 2012 #51
snooper2 Aug 2012 #21
sarcasmo Aug 2012 #24
AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #25
Equate Aug 2012 #28
Ter Aug 2012 #40
Equate Aug 2012 #41
Ter Aug 2012 #46
Equate Aug 2012 #47
Ter Aug 2012 #52
Equate Aug 2012 #54
bongbong Aug 2012 #31
AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #33
Ezlivin Aug 2012 #26
truth2power Aug 2012 #32
boppers Aug 2012 #38
rfranklin Aug 2012 #42
boppers Aug 2012 #55
Codeine Aug 2012 #57
rfranklin Aug 2012 #58
truebrit71 Aug 2012 #8
Equate Aug 2012 #15
truebrit71 Aug 2012 #18
smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #43
Equate Aug 2012 #45
brooklynite Aug 2012 #12
irisblue Aug 2012 #13
Berlum Aug 2012 #17
Renew Deal Aug 2012 #19
sarcasmo Aug 2012 #23
Politicalboi Aug 2012 #27
wordpix Aug 2012 #34
TriplD Aug 2012 #44

Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:33 AM

1. Somewhere, Alex Jones

is waking up with the biggest erection.


But seriously, where's the damn sprinkler system? Makes me worried about the building I'm in.

Thankfully no one was in there, and I hope the firefighters come out okay after cleaning up this mess.

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Response to Lawlbringer (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:24 AM

22. The Professional Conspiracy PIMP...

Alex Jones? If so, why would he care about this fire? Let me guess it was cover for the NWO to take over the world again?

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Response to Lawlbringer (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:44 PM

39. Well, he was right about fluoride in water lowering IQ's...

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Response to Ter (Reply #39)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:56 PM

48. Mercola? Seriously?

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #48)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:39 AM

53. Just the first link I could find

It was all over the mainstream news last week, including right here in LBR.

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Response to Ter (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:58 AM

49. Joseph Mercola: proof advanced degrees CAN be found in Wheaties boxes

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Response to Ter (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:07 AM

50. This guy was right about floridation too.

 

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Response to Ter (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:57 PM

56. Ahahahahaaaa!

Mercola. It is to laugh.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:38 AM

2. WAIT! Sorry for being dumb here but I thought they hadn't built anything on the site yet and I

thought it was suppose to be a memorial site..


I am keeping all the NYFD in my thoughts this morning.

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:46 AM

3. Not completely finished yet

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Response to Bosonic (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:15 AM

11. Thanks.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:15 AM

10. Thanks.

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:53 AM

6. this is the building that is under construction

One World Trade Center

Construction of One World Trade Center

Thus you can expect inspectors from the New York State Department of Labor to be all over the site.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:14 AM

9. Thanks.

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:31 AM

16. Just one small correction

 

it's FDNY. If you ever went into a fire station, which BTW, are called houses, and called them NYFD, they would set you straight PDQ.
As far as I know, they are the only Fire Service that has FD before the initials of their city.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:47 AM

5. We should see it collapse in its own footprint in about an hour...

 

Isn't that what happens when skyscrapers catch on fire?

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:56 AM

7. You got that right, rfranklin! At free fall speed, through the path of most reisstance, too!

You don't want to light a cigarette, turn an appliance on, or anything that generates the least bit of heat, in those steel framed skyscrapers nowadays! I remember one incident, in 2001, when THREE of them collapsed into their own footprints in one day!

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:19 AM

14. Thanks for saying what was my first thought.

I admire your courage.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:46 AM

20. Bush: "I first saw the fire! Then I was first told about it!...

...then I first saw it, then I was first told about it!"

And the media sits idly by...

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Response to KansDem (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:21 PM

29. He said he saw the first plane hit

Even though at the time, he was on his way in his limo to the school. But hey, do facts really matter with 9/11? He said that 3 months after 9/11, and he said it later again. Just let Obama get away with saying shit like that when facts tell us different. Oh but that's "crazy truther" talk.

After this weeks shooting, even though they weren't Muslim, 9/11 seemed to be this assholes revenge. If I were Muslim, I would want to clear our name, and make these threats go away. I would involve the help of other countries since the US can't stop lying about 9/11. They should take it to the point of running a remote controlled plane into a created building like the WTC just to see what would really happen.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:36 PM

30. Actually no one saw it

But we all saw the second airplane hit. Bush's brain wasn't around that day.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #30)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:31 PM

35. A french film crew saw it.

But that video didn't surface for days. So, no, he couldn't have directly seen it.

I personally, after the endless tape loops of the impacts, cannot with any certainty say if I saw the second impact live, or if I was catching a replay when we piled into the conference room.

Neither is anyone else that was in the room with me.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #35)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:17 PM

37. I can't remember either because they showed it for weeks

The images are forever seared on our minds. All of them. It took me years to be able to talk about it without crying. Now, at times I stil cry when I talk about it. I'm choking up right now.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:41 PM

36. I find this extremely troubling...

Bush tells audience he saw first plane hit WTC on TV--



Bush tell National Geographic he was told about first plane hitting WTC (0'48")--



Yet, where's the media to find out which story is the truth?

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Response to KansDem (Reply #36)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:18 AM

51. The truth is probably...

He was fried that morning with the hair of the dog that bit him the night before, and the whole day is kind of a blur.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:48 AM

21. over a decade and the search for truthy moves onward!

!!!

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:28 AM

24. +1

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:48 PM

25. If they burn on multiple floors, uncontrolled without sprinklers for hours, yeah.

Actually they do.

All the metal components of the Windsor Tower in Madrid collapsed to the ground in a couple hours, all that was left was the concrete-pillar construction components of the building, as the fire didn't do much to concrete.

It was a hybrid building, part concrete, part steel-frame. All the steel frame stuff collapsed under it's own weight in the heat.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:03 PM

28. I remember Rosie O'Donnell's inane statement on the View

 

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when she said, and I quote, "I do believe that it's the first time in history that fire has melted steel".
When I heard that, I lost all hope for her.

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Response to Equate (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:48 PM

40. It was the first time it brought down a skyscraper

In fact, it's only happened three times in world history, all on the same day.

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Response to Ter (Reply #40)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:53 PM

41. It was also the first time an aircraft of that size

 

with that much force and that much highly flammable jet fuel hit a skyscraper.
There was no govt. conspiracy involved like Rosie claimed. It was a foreign terrorist attack carried out by Al Qaeda.

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Response to Equate (Reply #41)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:49 PM

46. No aircraft hit WTC7

If Osama bin Laden was involved, why was he murdered and not allowed to surrender? They never wanted to capture him alive.

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Response to Ter (Reply #46)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:49 PM

47. And WTC7 took several hours to fall

 

Are you one of these 9/11 truthers? If so, then we're done here.
I've argued with enough of those nuts, don't want to do it again.

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Response to Equate (Reply #47)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:37 AM

52. Not really

But I think there's more to WTC7, and I don't believe a plane hit the Pentagon. However, I don't think the government did it either, so I'm not a truther by definition.

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Response to Ter (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:03 AM

54. Fair enough

 

but how do you explain the video of the plane hitting the Pentagon? What about the people on that plane, I'm sure they would love to hear that their plane didn't hit the Pentagon, oh wait, I forgot, they can't, their dead.

There only conspiracy here is that foreign terrorists planned and carried out the worse attack on U.S. soil since Pearl Harbor.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:17 PM

31. Hours?

 

> uncontrolled without sprinklers for hours,

WTC #1 fell less than an hour after the plane crashed into it. WTC #2 fell 1 hour & 42 minutes after impact.

Are you using the word "hours" to mean "less than an hour", or "one hour and change"?

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Response to bongbong (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:10 PM

33. That was in reference to WTC7.

WTC 1 and 2 were hit with aircraft travelling at 500+ mph, in excess of ~300,000lbs, full of fuel, and lit, again, multiple floors on fire across 1 acre areas, imparting ~7.4 million foot-tons of torque on each of the buildings at impact.

WTC7 was hit with burning debris from tower 1, some structural damage, but nothing like WTC 1 and 2 experienced, and simultaneously lost all water pressure as the collapse of 1 & 2 cut the local water mains. WTC7 failed entirely due to fire, and it took several hours longer to do so, than the steel framed components of the Windsor Tower fire.

The issues with WTC1 & 2 are not directly comparable to 7, because your starting point with the fires is already so far behind the curve, with structural members already removed by the physical impacts. Typically the 'hurf durf fire steel building' references are directed at WTC7, and this is what I was responding to. Towers 1 & 2 initated progressive collapse at the points they were physically impacted by aircraft for a reason. Had there ONLY been widespread fires in towers 1 & 2, they would have stood much longer, like WTC 7 did.

I'm glad this is just a big stupid fucking joke to you.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:53 PM

26. +1

Steel-framed buildings will collapse straight to the ground. Always have, always will.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:08 PM

32. What I was thinking. When is it going to collapse?...

You have a lot of courage for saying it, though. The disinformation artists will be along shortly.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:39 PM

38. I like it more when they magically leap a few city blocks, pirouette, and lay down sideways.

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Gravity is so boring and predictable.

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Response to boppers (Reply #38)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:09 PM

42. I like it when they magically collapse at freefall speed...

 

as if the girders not exposed to high temps had been somehow weakened by a mystical force.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #42)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:40 PM

55. Gravity sucks.

Acceleration, more so.

It's not mystical to somebody who understands high-school physics.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:58 PM

57. Oh, can you PLEASE take that bullshit over to the children's table? nt

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:09 AM

8. "Size of the blaze wasn't known" but it requires "nearly 90 firefighters"...

...to this no-nothing that sounds like alot of fire-fighters for a "small fire"...

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:28 AM

15. FDNY doesn't mess around

 

with hi rise fires. 90 FF for a hi rise sounds about right.

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Response to Equate (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:55 AM

18. If you say so...I honestly have no idea but I thought that number was a little high...

...and I can see the increased sense of urgency to get this dealt with quickly based on its location and recent history...

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:23 PM

43. Just what I was thinking.

Sounds like a pretty big deal to require nearly 90 firefighters for a fire on one floor of an unoccupied building.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #43)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:47 PM

45. Turned out to be a false alarm

 

but on a hi rise fire, 90 FF is not unusual.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:16 AM

12. False Alarm

NY1: A reported fire at One World Trade Center this morning has been investigated with fire crews giving an all clear.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:17 AM

13. "fire contained" same website as OP used

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I will never be able to read those words , fire, WTC again w/o that gut kick twist. If I'm, living so far away feel ill, how must that be hitting the emotions of the new yorkers? huge vibes for the firefighters and new yorkers who need and anyone who would need them

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:47 AM

17. If city planners would take into account the original uses of that site

-- and I do mean the Original Uses (pre-imperialist invasion) -- they would have another think coming.

Those who willfully ignore history tend to reap a Kickass Fiery WhirlWind of KaRmA.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:57 AM

19. These things happen

I can think of at least two times I've seen this happen in construction areas in NYC. Once in a 1st floor and once on the higher floors. In the second case, I think it was a pretty big fire and it delayed the buildings opening.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:27 AM

23. Does Silverstein still own that building?

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:59 PM

27. Be careful firefighters

Tall buildings in NY tend to bend and collapse due to fire. 9/11, still a joke even 10 years later.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:30 PM

34. I think it was folly to build another tall one on that site

It will forever be a terror target. Should have built a park instead, planted trees and had a memorial site.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:39 PM

44. Article updated. possible false alarm

The FDNY said responding firefighters encountered workers welding, which was causing the smoke visible from outside the building.

There were conflicting reports from the Fire Department and the Port Authority about whether there had been a fire.

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