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Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:10 PM

Tenn. mosque at center of controversy to open

Source: AP


Updated 12:13 p.m., Tuesday, August 7, 2012

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A new Tennessee mosque that has been the subject of arson, vandalism, protests and a lawsuit is expected to finally open for prayers on Friday.

Islamic Center of Murfreesboro Board Chairman Essam Fathy on Tuesday said inspectors had approved the building and he expected to receive a temporary occupancy permit.

Construction was nearly shut down after a Rutherford County judge ruled in May that the meeting where mosque construction was approved was not sufficiently advertised to the public.

Last month, federal prosecutors stepped in to protect the religious liberty of mosque members. A federal judge ruled in their favor, allowing construction and permitting to move ahead.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/article/Tenn-mosque-at-center-of-controversy-to-open-3769127.php



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Reply Tenn. mosque at center of controversy to open (Original post)
maddezmom Aug 2012 OP
southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #1
AlinPA Aug 2012 #2
Posteritatis Aug 2012 #18
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #3
bongbong Aug 2012 #6
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #8
bongbong Aug 2012 #9
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #10
Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #11
bongbong Aug 2012 #12
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #19
bongbong Aug 2012 #21
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #22
bongbong Aug 2012 #23
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #25
bongbong Aug 2012 #27
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #29
KamaAina Aug 2012 #24
TNDemo Aug 2012 #26
Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #7
part man all 86 Aug 2012 #14
kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #4
Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #20
Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #5
Archae Aug 2012 #16
LanternWaste Aug 2012 #13
bongbong Aug 2012 #28
part man all 86 Aug 2012 #15
BlueNAlabama Aug 2012 #17

Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:13 PM

1. I sure hope they have video cameras outside to catch idiots trying to burn it down. I

am sure it isn't over for them.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:40 PM

2. Look for TN to claim "states rights" to stop the opening of the mosque.

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Response to AlinPA (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:45 PM

18. They'll more likely just destroy it sometime soon. (nt)

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:50 PM

3. The mayor should have just said that the mosque doesn't stand for the values

 

the Nashville stands for.

Then he'd have widespread support on here.

/referencing the Mayor of Chicago saying the same thing to keep out chickfila.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

6. Sure you're in the right place?

 

Democrats support LGBT rights.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:13 PM

8. Democrats support the constitution as well

 

do they not?

/the ACLU took that case. I guess they are a bunch of vicious rightwingers.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:36 PM

9. Oh yeah!

 

I forgot! The ACLU is the absolute arbiter of Liberalism, especially since they were on the wrong side of Citizens United.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:38 PM

10. Just to be clear

 

you support selectively enforcing the law to penalize companies for their political views?

And bear in mind you can't limit it to just this one case. Once the precedent is set it's a free-for-all. Meaning it could be used to go after companies that are pro-gay marriage as well. Or pro-choice. Or pro-Obama.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:46 PM

11. How would the mayor of Nashville...

...blocking a mosque because of "values" be different from the mayor of Chicago blocking a Chickfila because of "values"? I'm not being facetious, I'm really asking. To me, it's hard to imagine logically being able to justify one and not the other.

And while I disagree with the ACLU on Citizens United, that has nothing to do with their position on this situation.

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Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:15 PM

12. The same?

 

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> To me, it's hard to imagine logically being able to justify one and not the other.

I guess something you're born with like your sexual desires is the same thing as religion. You're born with your religion. It's the same thing as sexual orientation.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:54 PM

19. Legally you aren't allowed to discriminate based on either

 

saying you won't hire homosexuals is just as illegal as saying you won't hire Muslims.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:39 PM

21. Thanks

 

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> saying you won't hire homosexuals is just as illegal as saying you won't hire Muslims.

Well then it's good that this issue isn't about hiring somebody. Were you mentioning "Strawman argument" in another thread? Thanks for illustrating one.





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Response to bongbong (Reply #21)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:41 PM

22. Not at all. Don't get testy because you didn't understand the point I was making

 

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just ask for an explanation next time. I'm always happy to educate someone who wishes to learn.

I try to write in a way that is broadly accessible but sometimes I overestimate my audience.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:51 PM

23. LOL

 

> I'm always happy to educate someone who wishes to learn.

I like how you accuse me of Strawman while inflicting a steady stream of them upon DU.

You HAVE proven that you're quite a psychological projector. I do understand that.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #23)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:57 PM

25. Some more non-literal thinking on your part?

 

lit·er·al 
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adjective
1.
in accordance with, involving, or being the primary or strict meaning of the word or words; not figurative or metaphorical: the literal meaning of a word.
2.
following the words of the original very closely and exactly: a literal translation of Goethe.
3.
true to fact; not exaggerated; actual or factual: a literal description of conditions.
4.
being actually such, without exaggeration or inaccuracy: the literal extermination of a city.
5.
(of persons) tending to construe words in the strict sense or in an unimaginative way; matter-of-fact; prosaic.

I think 3 and 4 are particularly applicable here. You condemn others for speaking truthfully and not in an exaggerated or inaccurate manner. One could only assume that means you do not speak truthfully or accurately.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:25 PM

27. Oh really?

 

> You condemn others for speaking truthfully

A gun-religionist's idea of truth will always be tainted by the object of his worship - his Precious. The extreme irrationality that accompanies gun-worship works against healthy living.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:22 PM

29. Boring

 

Get a new shtick.

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Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:55 PM

24. Because a mosque is a place of worship, and there's a constitutional guarantee of religious freedom?

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Oh, I forgot about the 25th Amendment, that guarantees the right to keep and bear chicken sandwiches.

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Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:23 PM

26. The Nashville mayor would have no say in this.

The mosque is in Murfreesboro, a different county.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

7. Exactly...

This Tennessee mosque situation illustrates exactly why I agree with the ACLU in the "mayors-of-Chicago-and-Boston vs. Chickfila" showdown.

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Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:38 PM

14. Here in sevierville tn we keep alcohol out of our restaurants but can buy it at krogers.

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One is a business and one is a right. That is how I make the distinction. The mosque is a right and hick-so-stupid is a business. Back to the alcohol here in sevierville no bars, even restaurants can not serve beer, because baptists are a major force. They used religion for decades to keep sevierville dry and the county until the 80's, dry. Now they hide behind drunk driving, it will bring deliquents, and crime will go up etc and etc to keep it out of sevierville and pigeon forge, except at grocery and convenient stores. But really it is their religion that keeps alcohol limited thus stops businesses from building. No different than the mayors.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:55 PM

4. I really hate to admit this, but I fully expect an arson fire there within a month of its opening.

Neighbors gotta show Gawd's love, you know.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:53 PM

20. Or a shooting

 

by yet another "lone wolf"

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:00 PM

5. I'm proud to say we've had one here in an east KY town for quite some time...

 

With absolutely no incidents that I've heard about.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:37 PM

16. Likewise here in Sheboygan county.

A guy converted an abandoned health-food store into a mosque in the town of Wilson, the anti-Muslims hysterics went apeshit.

That was two years ago, hasn't been any problems at all.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:23 PM

13. Difficult for me to accept that I live in an America...

Difficult for me to accept that I live in an America in which county judges do their best to prevent a church from opening, and once it is open, that same church will require around the clock surveillance, and serious security merely to exist. Quite the bitter little pill for me to swallow...

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:29 PM

28. Descent

 

America is writing a book, and adding a new chapter every day.

It's called "The Descent Of Man". Thanks to the crew at AM Radio, Fox "news", and the GOP.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:41 PM

15. I hope the local religious leaders gather to ensure a safe and joyous opening.

Their safety will be in my prayers.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:28 PM

17. Makes us hayseeds in Alabama proud to not be from Tenn.

Lord knows Alabama has it's share of problems but things like this make me happy to not be from Tenn.
I must be nuts??? Roy Moore will soon be re-elected to the State Supreme Court and if that clown gets his way he would establish his own little "Talabama".
Any blue states looking for a "older" laid off Shuttle engineer?

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