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Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:51 PM

Elizabeth Warren backs off demand that Scott Brown release more tax returns

Source: Boston Globe

Elizabeth Warren demanded Monday that Senator Scott Brown release more years of his tax returns. The only problem was that Brown, her Republican rival, had already released six years of tax returns while Warren has refused to release more than four years of her filings.

Asked to reconcile that apparent conflict, Warren backed off her demand hours later, saying Tuesday that six years was enough. She did not, however, offer to release any more of her IRS filings.

The episode began on Monday night, when Warren called on Brown to release two decades worth of filings.

“I think Scott Brown should release his tax returns for all the years he’s been in public service,” Warren said in Worcester Monday night, according to the website GoLocalWorcester.com. “He’s been in public service for 20 years, then he should have 20 years of tax returns.”

Read more: http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/08/07/elizabeth-warren-calls-scott-brown-release-more-tax-returns-than-she-has/YBXaARA2AdnEfFnV2XECmM/story.html

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Reply Elizabeth Warren backs off demand that Scott Brown release more tax returns (Original post)
Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 OP
Recursion Aug 2012 #1
Equate Aug 2012 #2
Moltisanti Aug 2012 #15
Equate Aug 2012 #19
elleng Aug 2012 #34
Equate Aug 2012 #36
rfranklin Aug 2012 #3
Kalidurga Aug 2012 #4
Beacool Aug 2012 #5
Broderick Aug 2012 #6
Beacool Aug 2012 #10
woo me with science Aug 2012 #21
Beacool Aug 2012 #24
snooper2 Aug 2012 #12
crimson77 Aug 2012 #23
Beacool Aug 2012 #25
Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #7
HomerRamone Aug 2012 #9
LineLineReply .
Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #18
JDPriestly Aug 2012 #8
kenfrequed Aug 2012 #11
elleng Aug 2012 #35
graywarrior Aug 2012 #13
Recursion Aug 2012 #14
graywarrior Aug 2012 #16
Beacool Aug 2012 #26
karynnj Aug 2012 #17
Marrah_G Aug 2012 #20
Equate Aug 2012 #22
woo me with science Aug 2012 #27
dkf Aug 2012 #28
cigsandcoffee Aug 2012 #29
CTyankee Aug 2012 #30
elleng Aug 2012 #38
CTyankee Aug 2012 #39
elleng Aug 2012 #40
CTyankee Aug 2012 #42
elleng Aug 2012 #43
CTyankee Aug 2012 #44
elleng Aug 2012 #45
karynnj Aug 2012 #49
karynnj Aug 2012 #48
cstanleytech Aug 2012 #31
crimson77 Aug 2012 #32
CTyankee Aug 2012 #33
elleng Aug 2012 #37
karynnj Aug 2012 #41
CTyankee Aug 2012 #46
karynnj Aug 2012 #47

Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:57 PM

1. Can we please stop having unforced errors in races for this seat? (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:13 PM

2. When I read this

 

I had a big Whoops moment.
She sounds like her own worse enemy. Hopefully this doesn't hurt her in Nov.

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Response to Equate (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:39 PM

15. for a smart lady, she has had a lot of miss steps... how she may lose Ted Kennedy's

 

seat to Scott Brown is amazing....

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Response to Moltisanti (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:58 PM

19. She's a very smart woman

 

I suspect that someone on her campaign staff suggested this w/o doing any research thinking that it's working against Romney, let's do it against Brown.
If so, then that person should be fired.
As much as I hate to disagree with you, it wasn't Ted Kennedy's seat, it's the people of Mass. seat.

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Response to Equate (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:44 AM

34. Seems her 'campaign staff' isn't quite up to its job.

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Response to elleng (Reply #34)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:52 AM

36. She needs to clean house

 

and do a reset with a new staff and get back on message.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:13 PM

3. She should say that she will release her returns when Romney releases his...

 

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I think that would be fair.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:21 PM

4. That would be brilliant...

Even if Romney doesn't she should release a lot more. The sooner the better. And with an apology.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:30 PM

5. This election season is beyond depressing.

Both sides act like bratty kids in a playground.

Show me yours. No, you show me yours first. No, you.......etc., etc., etc.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:15 PM

6. Butttttt

We have Romneyhood and Obamalogna. LMAO. Seriously, that is the yakking between the two. That is pretty much bratty kids in the playground.

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Response to Broderick (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:09 PM

10. Apparently neither side wants to focus on the elephant in the room.

The lousy economy and what they plan to do about trying to fix it. They prefer to distract the masses with shiny objects and finger pointing.

I give up........

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #21)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:54 AM

24. Thanks!!!

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Response to Beacool (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:31 PM

12. If only we had Hillary to save us from all of this

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:36 AM

23. Preach it

 

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:55 AM

25. Save your snark...........

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:18 PM

7. Search the internet. Look for bad news about Democrats.

Post it here. Repeat.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:12 PM

9. see no evil etc

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:02 PM

8. We should make a rule that candidates running for federal

offices should release x number of years of tax returns the day they file to run.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:13 PM

11. Hmm

There is someone on her staff that needs to get fired.

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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:46 AM

35. Yes, at least someONE,

maybe more.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:37 PM

13. For crissakes! Can't we do anything right in MA?

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Response to graywarrior (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:08 PM

14. Half of the state party leadership going to jail a few years ago didn't help

And acting like that Senate seat is our birthright (and there's still a lot of that in MA) doesn't help either.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 08:06 PM

16. Pretty soon, I will be too old and senile to give a rats ass.

I just can't stand S. Brown. He's an arrogant, mean man.

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Response to graywarrior (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:00 AM

26. I'm already at that point and I'm not even that old.

I don't give a crap anymore. I'm glad that I'll be out of the country for the Democratic Convention (I have zero interest in watching the Republicans either).

It's a horse and pony show for the apathetic masses.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 08:55 PM

17. Could the root of that be that Kerry and possibly Tsongus

were never given credit for being the exceptional Senators they were? This led to them with Kennedy holding both seats for decades.

Had Kerry been less good, it is easy to imagine Weld would have won and likely held the seat for years. Then the idea that both were "Democratic" seats.

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Response to graywarrior (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:01 PM

20. I'm not sure why she did this

I feel like I am missing part of this story. SHe is way to smart to make a mistake like that.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #20)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:49 PM

22. Probably some staffer suggested it

 

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w/o doing any research thinking if it worked against Romney, let's try it against Brown. If so, then someone needs to be fired.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:06 AM

27. I feel the same way. nt

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:45 AM

28. Pretty much everyone calling for Mitt Romney's returns hasn't released theirs either.

Why give Warren grief when no one else is being held to account?

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Response to dkf (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:24 PM

29. Just for the sake of accuracy, this wasn't about Romney's returns.

It was about her opponent's returns. It's a bit of a snafu to call for him to release more of his returns while he's already released more of them than she has.

Somebody dropped the ball on that one.

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Response to cigsandcoffee (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:08 PM

30. She's gone quiet, at least for a bit. Which is good. When you are in a hole, stop digging...

I hope this doesn't end her chances...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #30)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:43 PM

38. Hi, yank!

Day late, but I agree. HOPE she's re-doing her campaign 'aides.' Hope she can find some who are better, and know what they're doing.

Recall when ?Kerry? adopted or was gifted with aides from Ted Kennedy, and things seemed to go badly for a while? Or am I mis-recalling?

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Response to elleng (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:41 PM

39. don't know about kerry...musta missed that one!

I think she's wise to pull back from this and get to the bottom of why the aide did not see the discrepancy in her releasing 4 years vs. Scott releasing 6. She must have been misinformed somewhere along the way. Could this have been a dirty trick?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:58 PM

40. Remember

early on, John Kerry's campaign manager was Jim Jordan. However, Jordan was replaced by Mary Beth Cahill. Kerry also hired Bob Shrum as a campaign consultant. Cahill and Shrum were known for disagreeing on how the campaign should be run.

I somehow recall Cahill as supposed to be a superstar who couldn't get it done, sent over from Ted Kennedy Senatorial campaign staff. (Googled and came up with her name.)

Yes, Warren is wise to pull back and get to the bottom of things, and STOP DIGGING, as you said.

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Response to elleng (Reply #40)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:06 PM

42. I'll have to ask my son in law what he knows about Cahill.

He did focus groups on that campaign. He probably didn't know her, but he must have known people who did...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #42)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:10 PM

43. Oh right, a great resource!

Forgot about him!

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Response to elleng (Reply #43)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:59 PM

44. I'll pm you about what he's doing in this campaign...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #44)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:02 PM

45. OK.

Thanks

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Response to elleng (Reply #40)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:35 PM

49. Kerry actually made a great decision firing Jordan

After that the primary campaign far exceeded what the pundits expected.

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Response to elleng (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:32 PM

48. The two Kennedy people, Mary Beth Cahill and Bob Shrum, turned things around

He was doing poorly before that - and he got rid of Jim Jordan, who fought with Kerry's wife and brother on how to run a campaign. The primary campaign was well run by the Kennedy aides and Kerry people - it was a very smooth path to a win in spite of little party support and almost no media support.

The general election was tougher - they needed more people and it seems some of the Edwards and Clinton people were more loyal to their person than to Kerry.

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:13 PM

31. Ugh, she really seems to have fumbled this one badly. nt

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:45 PM

32. I am going to leave this here....

 

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I am not trolling I just have a genuine dislike of Elizabeth Warren. Thing are about to get dicey for the campaign and the political bigwigs in Boston.

Warren's side:
http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220808elizabeth_warrens_daughter_chairs_group_that_filed_welfare_vote_suit/srvc=home&position=0

Original story:
http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220808elizabeth_warrens_daughter_chairs_group_that_filed_welfare_vote_suit/srvc=home&position=0

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Response to crimson77 (Reply #32)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:13 AM

33. You a big supporter of the Boston Herald?

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Response to crimson77 (Reply #32)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:59 AM

37. ???

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Response to crimson77 (Reply #32)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:59 PM

41. Nothing dicey there - just demanding they follow the law

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and it's a good law.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #41)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:43 PM

46. that story makes Scott Brown look like a vile racist...UGH!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #46)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:26 PM

47. I agree - and someone who sees people on welfare as not deserving a vote

Especially disgusting as his needed welfare when he was a kid. (I still don't get how they had no money yet his father was a Republican low level official in another town - presumably a self sufficient member of the community.)

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