Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:11 PM
Bosonic (1,415 posts)
Egyptian police killed in attack in Sinai
Source: Al Jazeera
At least 15 Egyptian policemen have been killed or wounded in an armed attack on a police station in north Sinai on the border between Egypt and Israel, the Reuters news agency reported. It was not immediately clear who carried out Sunday's attack. Al Jazeera's Rawya Ragey, reporting from Cairo, said border police patrol were breaking their fast when they were ambushed by armed men. Read more: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/08/201285183958163902.html
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24 replies, 2661 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Bosonic | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| crimson77 | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| crimson77 | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| crimson77 | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| crimson77 | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| crimson77 | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| JDPriestly | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| oberliner | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| azurnoir | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| secondwind | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| bemildred | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| Fozzledick | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| Eugene | Aug 2012 | #24 |
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:59 PM
crimson77 (305 posts)
1. What would be the motive? Did the militants get caught trying to smuggle weapons
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into Gaza?
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Response to crimson77 (Reply #1)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:08 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
2. Israel says terror groups are planning to abduct Israelis from the Sinai peninsula
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Last edited Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:09 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) (from two days ago)
Israeli tourists in Sinai should return to Israel immediately because terrorists are planning to abduct Israelis from the peninsula, the government's Counter-Terrorism Bureau warned on Thursday. The agency said it issued the warning because it has received new intelligence indicating that Gaza-based Palestinian terror groups and organizations linked to Al-Qaida in Sinai are planning imminent attacks on Israeli tourists there. The terrorists' primary goal is to kidnap Israelis, the agency added. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-says-terror-groups-are-planning-to-abduct-israelis-from-the-sinai-peninsula-1.455635 Perhaps connected? |
Response to oberliner (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:17 PM
crimson77 (305 posts)
3. Fuck me
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Can we not have one election cycle where something fucked up doesn't happen in Sept/Oct. I know this shouldn't be spoken outloud, Obama needs so throw around some good old fashion hired killer money and keep these islamists busy for the next few months. I am sure there are many mercenaries that could use the money, tough economy and all.
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Response to crimson77 (Reply #3)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:28 PM
azurnoir (26,629 posts)
4. I think that's already happening -in Syria n/t
Response to azurnoir (Reply #4)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:30 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
5. What a disgustingly insulting comment
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The people of Syria are rising up and revolting against a dictatorship and demanding freedom.
But to you it's mercenaries and hired killers on the US payroll. Islamists kept busy. Despicable remarks. |
Response to oberliner (Reply #5)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:36 PM
crimson77 (305 posts)
14. I am all for freedom, we have absolutley no idea who these rebels are.
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If keeping Assad in power, means that chemical weapons stay out of the hand of people who would drop that shit in Times Sq or the Tube in London. I am sorry that is a crisis of conscience that I just don't have. If they didn't have chemical weapons I'd say kill Assad right now, but we don't live in that world.
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Response to crimson77 (Reply #14)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:42 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
16. You raise an interesting point
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What about Mubarak in Egypt and Qaddafi in Libya? Same sort crisis in those cases?
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Response to oberliner (Reply #16)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:47 PM
crimson77 (305 posts)
17. Mubarak was a corupt despot, but he could be dealt with.Someone still needs to tell me how Qaddafi..
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lived as long as he did, with the shit he pulled, probably oil. Both had one thing in common, no chemical weapons.
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Response to crimson77 (Reply #17)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 07:28 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
19. How about Saddam Hussein?
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He had a chemical weapon or two.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #19)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 08:36 PM
crimson77 (305 posts)
21. From what I have read
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Saddam until the end thought he would get his power back, how? I have no idea. So the pundits speculated that he didn't use them for that reason.
Also I hear his weapons were mostly chemical weapons that would effect the general populace not military,aka mustard gas. |
Response to oberliner (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:34 PM
azurnoir (26,629 posts)
6. hasn't Israel's counter terrorism agency been issuing similar warnings for years?
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from your link
While it has issued similar warnings several times in the past, many Israelis ignore them, pressing forward with plans to enjoy a relatively cheap beach vacation.
"The Counter-Terrorism Bureau once again urges all Israelis in Sinai to leave the region immediately and return to Israel," the Prime Minister's Office said in a statement on Thursday. "The Counterterrorism Bureau asks the families of Israelis in Sinai to make contact with them and inform them of this warning. In addition, the bureau strongly recommends that all those planning to go to Sinai refrain from doing so." The agency has had a travel advisory in place for Sinai for several years now, but the security situation there deteriorated drastically after last year's Egyptian revolution. Over the past year, two serious cross-border terror attacks have been launched at Israel from Sinai, both by terrorist groups affiliated with Al-Qaida. the boy who cried wolf syndrome at work here perhaps? |
Response to azurnoir (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:37 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
7. Yes, these warnings are made from time to time
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So are attacks on Israelis vacationing in Sinai.
From your favorite website: The 2004 Sinai bombings were three bomb attacks targeting tourist hotels in the Sinai Peninsula, Egypt, on October 7, 2004. The attacks killed 34 people and injured 171. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Sinai_bombings It's not crying wolf when a wolf actually attacks you. |
Response to oberliner (Reply #7)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:41 PM
azurnoir (26,629 posts)
8. yes 8 years ago that did happen however Israeli's are still going to Sinai for vacations
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why, if it is indeed so dangerous?
BTW your link did not say from time to time it said The agency has had a travel advisory in place for Sinai for several years now, but the security situation there deteriorated drastically after last year's Egyptian revolution. Over the past year, two serious cross-border terror attacks have been launched at Israel from Sinai, both by terrorist groups affiliated with Al-Qaida.
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:13 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
9. 10 hours ago actually
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From your other favorite website:
Masked attackers carrying machine guns fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the post near Israel's Kerem Shalom crossing, killing at least 15 Egyptian officers, wounding seven and kidnapping others, Egyptian security officials told Ma'an. The attackers then seized two military vehicles and attempted to storm Egypt's border with Israel. http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=510234 |
Response to oberliner (Reply #9)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:25 PM
azurnoir (26,629 posts)
10. yes I know I have read the OP but that does not address my comment
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Last edited Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:26 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) apparently there are still Israeli's going to Sinai
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:13 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
11. The OP doesn't say that
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The OP has no info about who carried out the attack and why.
New information has surfaced that you might want to check out. |
Response to azurnoir (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:20 PM
JDPriestly (37,758 posts)
12. Maybe because families want to get away from the Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
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heat and cool off at the beach but can't afford to go more expensive places?
Maybe because Egypt likes to get the money the tourists bring and opens the beaches to everyone? |
Response to JDPriestly (Reply #12)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:26 PM
azurnoir (26,629 posts)
13. well yes that was my point but is a cheap vacation
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really worth risking ones life over, if indeed Sinai is so dangerous?
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #13)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:38 PM
oberliner (22,139 posts)
15. Anywhere an Israeli goes is dangerous
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Wherever Israelis travel, they are in danger of being attacked merely because they are Israelis.
Did you miss what happened in Bulgaria? |
Response to oberliner (Reply #15)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 11:33 PM
azurnoir (26,629 posts)
23. ah so I would take it that Miami is dangerous?
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or NYC or Paris or Tokyo or Beijing or Warsaw or ..............
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Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 07:08 PM
secondwind (3,826 posts)
18. I have a FB friend in Sweden who has friends in Egypt, he says Israel is carrying out
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attacks on the city of Rafah.
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Response to secondwind (Reply #18)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 07:44 PM
bemildred (67,505 posts)
20. Israeli air strike kills Palestinian militant riding motorcycle in south Gaza Strip
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An Israel Air Force craft targeted a motorcycle travelling in the Gaza city of Rafah on Sunday, killing one militant and wounding another.
According to initial reports, the attack was a surgical strike against a member of the Popular Resistance Committees militant organization. An IDF statement released after the attack said that the assault was a joint operation by the army and the Shin Bet, adding that militant squad targeted belonged to a global Jihad organization. According to the statement, the two men targeted in the strike were 19-year-old Eyad Nadi Okel, who was killed in the attack, and 22-year-old Ahmed Sayid Ismayil, who Palestinian sources said was wounded in the attack, while the IDF claimed was killed as well. The IDF said that Ismayil belonged to the Salafi wing of the Popular Resistance Committees, which is linked to the global Jihad movement operating in the Strip and in the Sinai, adding that he was involved in the June attack on the border with Israel that killed an Israeli citizen. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israeli-air-strike-kills-palestinian-militant-riding-motorcycle-in-south-gaza-strip-1.456110 |
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:06 PM
Fozzledick (2,098 posts)
22. Sinai attack proves Islamist terrorists are targeting Egyptians as well as Israelis
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Sunday night's attack of the Egyptian military post and cross-border incursion was the largest attack carried out in Sinai by Global Jihad operatives against both an Egyptian target and an Israeli target.
... In recent months there have been almost daily incidents between the Egyptian army and armed members of Jihadist groups, and there have been repeated reports of Egyptian soldiers shot by these extremists, who belong to cells identified with Al-Qaida coming from all over the Middle East. The two terrorists responsible for the attack that killed Fashafshe came from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. There are reportedly Al-Qaida forces in Sinai from Yemen, Iraq, Syria and other Arab and Muslim countries. These groups are supported by the local Bedouin and it cannot be ruled out that Sinai Bedouin took part in planning and executing Sunday's attack. Meanwhile, various other terror groups in the Gaza Strip are assisting them and smuggling arms and goods into the Strip. About 1,000 soldiers belonging to the Egyptian Border Police are currently stationed in Sinai, as are other Egyptian soldiers, but their focus is on guarding the strip of coast and the roads leading to the main northern Sinai cities of El Arish and Rafah. They do not belong to elite units and are not trained to face terrorists. Their posts are poorly protected and they face Sinai, rather than Israel, out of fear of attack from Bedouin gangs or Islamicists. In many ways the neglect of the Egyptian government, which began back in the time of Mubarak, has helped turn Sinai into a no-man's land controled by Global Jihad groups and armed Bedouin. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/sinai-attack-proves-islamist-terrorists-are-targeting-egyptians-as-well-as-israelis-1.456174 |
Response to Bosonic (Original post)
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 11:04 AM
Eugene (15,527 posts)
24. Egypt Israel border attack leaves 'eight gunmen dead'
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Source: BBC
6 August 2012 Last updated at 14:22 GMT
Egypt Israel border attack leaves 'eight gunmen dead' Israel says it has found the bodies of eight gunmen who attacked a checkpoint on its border with Egypt, killing 16 Egyptian policemen. The attackers attacked a border post at Rafah, captured two Egyptian army vehicles and then tried to smash their way over the border, Israel said. One vehicle apparently blew up at the Kerem Shalom crossing, while the other was destroyed by the Israeli air force. Egypt has declared three days of mourning for the dead policemen. -snip- Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19144906 |

