Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:31 PM
kag (968 posts)
Boulder County concealed weapons permit applications triple following Aurora Shootings
Source: Boulder Daily Camera
BOULDER -- Boulder County officials report that applications for concealed carry weapon permits spiked in the week after the July 20 shootings at an Aurora theater that left 12 dead, and local firearms advocates believe it shows some people are ready to take self-defense up a notch. From the week of June 4 to the week of July 16, the weekly average of applications for concealed carry gun permits in Boulder County was nine. The week of July 23, the applications jumped to 28 and as of Tuesday last week, the most recent data available, the sheriff's office had already tallied 15 new applications. It takes about 90 days for the county to review an application and issue a permit. Read more: http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_21237536/boulder-county-concealed-weapons-permit-applications-are-up Great. Just what we need.
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| kag | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| twizzler | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| wake.up.america | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| twizzler | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| wake.up.america | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| PavePusher | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| L0oniX | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| proud2BlibKansan | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| twizzler | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| Hoyt | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| twizzler | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| L0oniX | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| ileus | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| rad51 | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| lunatica | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| twizzler | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| progressivebydesign | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| L0oniX | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| 4th law of robotics | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| agent46 | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| twizzler | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| Hoyt | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| twizzler | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| ChazII | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| Hoyt | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| wake.up.america | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| ileus | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| otohara | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| RebelOne | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| Mkap | Aug 2012 | #26 |
Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:40 PM
twizzler (206 posts)
1. Why is this a problem?
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Last edited Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) They have to go through a background check, take a class on the lawful use of a firearm, and qualify with the firearm to be carried.
My wife and I, both being retired cops, have not problem with citizens carrying concealed guns as long as they qualify. All 3 of our daughters are cops and they are ok with it as are most street cops. |
Response to twizzler (Reply #1)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:09 PM
wake.up.america (3,334 posts)
11. Interesting comment from a former law official.
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How should America turn itself around with respect to the inordinate number of deaths and injuries by firearms?
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Response to wake.up.america (Reply #11)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:23 PM
twizzler (206 posts)
13. We're never former if retired
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but be that as it may, check out the FBI's statistics on violent crime, it's at it's lowest point since the 60's and continuing to decline, not because there are more guns in circulation, the reasons are many, but if there are more guns in circulation and crime is declining, then more guns isn't making crime rise.
As a cop, I knew that the crime problem wasn't the citizen who took the time to qualify to carry a concealed gun, it was the badguy who didn't or wouldn't care about any laws regarding guns. And the majority of street or beat cops felt pretty much the same way. As far as turning itself around, how about firearm awarness and safety classes taught in school? I don't mean promote guns, but something like the NRA's Eddie Eagle program. Better reporting by the states to the NCIS of prohibited persons, stiffer penalties for using a gun in a crime, no parole for violent criminals who use guns, just to name a few. And lest it be said that I'm just a shill for the gun industry or the NRA, I'm not, I'm not even really pro or anti gun. I just have real world experience when it comes to the lawful citizen as opposed to the badguys having guns. |
Response to twizzler (Reply #13)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:55 AM
wake.up.america (3,334 posts)
27. My apologies. Not former, but retired. Sorry.
Response to wake.up.america (Reply #11)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:33 PM
PavePusher (15,374 posts)
16. Continue on as we are now, while working on improving the mental health system....
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better education and jobs.
Crime rates, including murder, have been dropping fairly steadily for several decades, while the number of privately owned firearms, and firearms owners, have increased. |
Response to wake.up.america (Reply #11)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:31 PM
L0oniX (18,005 posts)
19. Let me know when the US stops playing war too.
Response to twizzler (Reply #1)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:31 PM
proud2BlibKansan (96,559 posts)
14. Including this guy? He obviously got a gun somehow.
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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #14)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:44 PM
twizzler (206 posts)
15. He's an ass
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but are you comparing him to the average gun owner? What is you experience with the average gun owner, probably not as extensive as mine or my wife's.
In my experience, and I have 35 years experience, citizens who take the time to qualify for a concealed gun permit are polite, even tempered people. Of course, you're going to have the idiot here and there who break the law and they usually pay a heavy price for it. Every citizen I ran across who carried a gun legally was very polite to me and I had no worries about them, my biggest worry were those that didn't or wouldn't care about any laws, we call them criminals. |
Response to twizzler (Reply #15)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:43 PM
Hoyt (12,360 posts)
17. How often do you think some gun nut will pull or flash his gun in front of an uniformed officer?
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Don't you think even Holmes, Stawicki, Zimmerman, Loughner, and every other gun carrier would be on best behavior when a uniformed officer approached. I certainly do.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #17)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:18 PM
twizzler (206 posts)
18. What's your police experience?
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are you a cop? If not, then let me pass on a few things I was trained to look for when approaching a vehicle or person, we look for little tells, like nervousness, fidgeting around, sudden movements in a vehicle, eyes darting, voice trembling, sudden sweating, certain veins throbbing, stuff like that.
I always approached a vehicle or a person as though they were armed, that's how we are trained, but in all my years, 15 in a car, 20 as a Detective, I can count on one hand problems I had with a licensed gun carrier. I think I speak from far more experience than you. |
Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #14)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:33 PM
L0oniX (18,005 posts)
20. Izzat a giant wooden penis on that shelf?
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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #14)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:15 PM
ileus (9,311 posts)
24. And he has Prince Albert in a can...
Response to ileus (Reply #24)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:17 AM
rad51 (88 posts)
29. I saw that,too.
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Then I wished I had his phone number.
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Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:43 PM
lunatica (28,940 posts)
2. It doesn't suprise me at all
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Having both the Columbine High School and Aurora mass murders in the same area would make anyone think about carrying self defense.
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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:50 PM
twizzler (206 posts)
3. I have no problem with citizens carrying guns
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as long as they are properly trained in the laws of usage and can pass a background check and qualify with the gun.
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Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:50 PM
progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)
4. the mistaken belief that the world is more violent, creates a more violent world.
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People who own guns are more likely to have them used by their family in anger or suicide, or stolen and used against them or used in another crime.
An armed society is NOT a polite society... as evidenced in countries with SANE gun laws. It's quite the opposite in places like America and Somalia. |
Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #4)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:39 PM
L0oniX (18,005 posts)
21. Uhm ...so vets are more likely to be violent too? So war creates a more violent world?
Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:50 PM
4th law of robotics (6,801 posts)
5. Expect gun violence in the are to . . .
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stay about the same, maybe drop slightly.
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Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:54 PM
agent46 (873 posts)
6. "The solution to guns is more guns."
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This general belief that seems to be spreading comes from one place - heavily funded NRA propaganda. The arms industry is one of the few strong manufacturing industries left in America. They are increasing exports and marketing the idea to American consumers that they are unsafe and the answer is guns. In their version of America everyone will carry a cell phone and a firearm.
Every time there's a fear event in America, we get played into buying more bullshit. |
Response to agent46 (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:59 PM
twizzler (206 posts)
7. If it's such a bad idea
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why do most states now allow for the carrying of concealed guns? Why do most street cops have no problem with it?
I just don't think it's a big deal as long as the applicant is qualified to carry. |
Response to twizzler (Reply #7)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:02 PM
Hoyt (12,360 posts)
9. You've obviously never met a Tbag bigoted carrier.
Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:08 PM
twizzler (206 posts)
10. I've met many of them in my duties
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as had my wife and 3 daughters. I've arrested all walks of life during my career. As long as they obeyed the law, I had no problems with them, I tended to treat everyone as I would want to be treated until it was time to take action and even then, I tried to be respectful of them.
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Response to twizzler (Reply #10)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:16 AM
ChazII (3,171 posts)
28. Twizzler, what are your thoughts on open carry?
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http://www.opencarry.org/az.html
I live in the Phoenix area of Arizona. While I seldom see someone with their weapon in a holster, it does not bother me when I do see one. In your opinion, how does open carry influence tend to influence others? |
Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:00 PM
Hoyt (12,360 posts)
8. Watch your back, armed "cowboys" on loose.
Response to Hoyt (Reply #8)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:21 PM
wake.up.america (3,334 posts)
12. Call me an alarmist, but walking around the US has me..
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running scared. Baghdad is scary too, but that's a different story.
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Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:11 PM
ileus (9,311 posts)
22. This is promising news.
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It shows people haven't given up on their rights, and progress can still be made for all of us.
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Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:12 PM
otohara (21,682 posts)
23. Boulder Is Changing
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not the hippie haven it once was.
Never liked the place - besides they have shitty rules for handicap parking. By the time you walk to where ever it is your going, it's time to turn around and go feed the one hour only machine. |
Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:50 PM
RebelOne (27,006 posts)
25. Local new here in Atlanta, GA,
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reported that weapon permits have jumped within the last couple of weeks. They are not certain if it has anything to do with the Colorado shootings. DUH!!!
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Response to kag (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:53 PM
Mkap (177 posts)
26. It's all fear
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The media scares people so their reaction is to go out and buy guns. We live in a paranoid nation
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