Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:12 PM

Whoa_Nelly (21,021 posts)

Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin

Source: abc.com

A mass shooting has occurred at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisc., this morning.

At least four people have been reported injured in the mass shooting and no suspect has been identified.

The incident reportedly occurred around 10:45 a.m. at the temple, just outside of Milwaukee.

According to information broadcast over police radio, a witness to the shooting told law enforcement the shooter was a white male, bald, with a heavy build. He was wearing a sleeveless T-shirt, according to Oak Creek Patch. He was last seen with two handguns.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-oak-creek-sikh-temple-milwaukee-oak-creek/story?id=16933779#.UB6pHk1lTP8

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Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin (Original post)	Whoa_Nelly	Aug 2012	OP
Bald white male with multiple guns!?	villager	Aug 2012	#1
You mean this guy?	grahamhgreen	Aug 2012	#10
That is a rifle...	Keefer	Aug 2012	#29
Nah! He never shot a man he didn't like n/t	nichomachus	Aug 2012	#50
Wayne LaPierre (on the left) began as a legislative aide to Democratic Virginia Delegate Vic Thomas	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#97
Yeah, it's probably a perfect time to join the pro-gun culture	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#173
Bill Clinton seems to have some expertise.	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#176
Obama has pandered to the NRA	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#181
Although mentioning "the NRA" is a dog-whistle to some, it has no effect on me because	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#183
The guy on the right looks like he is already fantasizing about being alone with that gun.	RC	Aug 2012	#98
Well, those are definitely domestic terrorists...	villager	Aug 2012	#131
Local Police Scanner link	Whoa_Nelly	Aug 2012	#2
Thanks for the link. nt	CJCRANE	Aug 2012	#71
Another Moment of Silence - Guns	otohara	Aug 2012	#3
Sikhs believe in the brotherhood of man, and equality of all. The shooter must have seen his turban,	alfredo	Aug 2012	#4
That was my 1st thought.	JohnnyRingo	Aug 2012	#57
+1 eom	BlueMTexpat	Aug 2012	#59
Ignorance and a gun is a bad mix.	alfredo	Aug 2012	#114
how about sisterhood of women?	Skittles	Aug 2012	#125
Equality of women in Sikhism	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#155
In their case brotherhood includes both genders.	alfredo	Aug 2012	#171
My thoughts and prayers	Smilo	Aug 2012	#5
The perpetrator probably mistook it for a mosque	slackmaster	Aug 2012	#6
Regardless of the shooter possibly making any associative mistakes	Whoa_Nelly	Aug 2012	#14
Or something equally dumb.	AlbertCat	Aug 2012	#20
$100 that this guy is a wingnut bigot who mistook Sikhs for Muslims.	Odin2005	Aug 2012	#7
Yep. (nt)	Posteritatis	Aug 2012	#9
That's probably a given. Although it's also possible he just thought anyone non-Christian & foreign	scarletwoman	Aug 2012	#18
I remember after 9/11 hearing that a lot of Sikhs were harassed...	Odin2005	Aug 2012	#24
A Sikh man was murdered right after 9/11.	yardwork	Aug 2012	#52
In Texas an idiot shot a gas station owner right after 9/11	Spitfire of ATJ	Aug 2012	#54
I believe another was killed in Phoenix, too.	GoCubsGo	Aug 2012	#101
i think that guy was executed a couple of years ago or even more recently nt	arely staircase	Aug 2012	#140
Yup...	Spitfire of ATJ	Aug 2012	#148
i think one of the guys he shot but survived said he didn't think he should be executed	JI7	Aug 2012	#151
crap like that happened in my city...	madrchsod	Aug 2012	#110
Easy bet.	sarge43	Aug 2012	#22
My bet on that one would be "first talking head to appear, period." (nt)	Posteritatis	Aug 2012	#23
Not going to bet against that	harun	Aug 2012	#34
And hates women and children apparently.	lonestarnot	Aug 2012	#66
+1	Shankapotomus	Aug 2012	#73
That's an interesting description of the perp	TheCowsCameHome	Aug 2012	#8
It's pretty mcuh a stereotype, innit?	Odin2005	Aug 2012	#16
Another 'if the shoe fits' situation, I suspect.	TheCowsCameHome	Aug 2012	#17
Stereotyping is a basic cognitive process, helps us function in unfamiliar contexts, like a	patrice	Aug 2012	#113
That's horrific. I hope they find the perp. No doubt he has a trial of rants online they can trace.	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#11
"Disgruntled white men" = racist	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#51
Um Okay. You're right.. there are NO angry white men who blame people of other races. n/t	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#61
Wrong. In fact, I think that "angry white men who blame people of other races" can be KKK members	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#84
Us poor maligned white guys.	UnrepentantLiberal	Aug 2012	#62
Well, it's not all bad. Nor are white guys always maligned. Some religious worshippers belief that	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#104
FAIL. Going postal on your ex-supervisor != emptying a gun into a place of worship.	KamaAina	Aug 2012	#78
Um, FAIL yourself. "Disgruntled white men" != either "Going postal on your ex-supervisor" or	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#83
thank you. nicely put. n/t	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#116
Oh boy. I am appalled at this.	mysuzuki2	Aug 2012	#12
There is a Sikh who lives in my apartment building.	Odin2005	Aug 2012	#28
My god.	Le Taz Hot	Aug 2012	#13
Police scanner reporting fires breaking out in the temple	Whoa_Nelly	Aug 2012	#15
Abandoned food burning on the stove, according to the scanner.	Adsos Letter	Aug 2012	#27
Thanks EOM	Whoa_Nelly	Aug 2012	#35
du rec. nt	xchrom	Aug 2012	#19
Say a prayer.	Don C. Nuttin	Aug 2012	#21
What a conversation!	AlbertCat	Aug 2012	#25
An unfathomable event, indeed.	Don C. Nuttin	Aug 2012	#36
And I certainly do not elevate my prayers to the level of God's wisdom.	AlbertCat	Aug 2012	#42
Peace.	Don C. Nuttin	Aug 2012	#46
They are indeed the same G-d	azurnoir	Aug 2012	#90
"the same G-d"? A male bipod who looks just like us? Except for being invisible?	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#99
actually that depiction G-d is from Christianity	azurnoir	Aug 2012	#117
Interesting.	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#122
I think it is the Jesus thing	azurnoir	Aug 2012	#128
And (I'm not making this up) Mormons apparently believe that Satan is the brother of Jesus.	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#134
The joy is that we can regularly have these conversations in this country	exboyfil	Aug 2012	#108
Maybe Shiva, the Hindu God of Destruction, was listening? (Shiva is the God	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#161
As-Samia (All Hearing)	harun	Aug 2012	#38
Thank you.	Don C. Nuttin	Aug 2012	#39
This message was hidden by jury decision.	AlbertCat	Aug 2012	#48
Peace.	Don C. Nuttin	Aug 2012	#55
No thank you	harun	Aug 2012	#103
I believe God hears all prayers	DesertRat	Aug 2012	#85
well you and your Sikh 'friend' are wrong very wrong	azurnoir	Aug 2012	#86
Well, okay.	Don C. Nuttin	Aug 2012	#91
Sikhs are not mentioned in the Quran because Sikhs emerged in the 15th century	azurnoir	Aug 2012	#95
Sikhs do not worship the Abrahamic god.	independentpiney	Aug 2012	#120
it's not the guns	2pooped2pop	Aug 2012	#26
I tend to agree with you	twizzler	Aug 2012	#32
......because those ragheads did 9-11......	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#138
Totally agree	twizzler	Aug 2012	#149
How many people could that guy take down at once with a knife or bat before being tackled?	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#41
+ One billion.	Zoeisright	Aug 2012	#56
Guns are people, my friend!	Plucketeer	Aug 2012	#82
I think a can of gasoline and some matches would do	DBoon	Aug 2012	#92
I'd rather take my chances with the can of gas	primavera	Aug 2012	#146
Yes, but it's the ease and convenience of weapons that are the issue.	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#162
There are conflicting reports that there are 2 gunmen holding hostages	DisgustipatedinCA	Aug 2012	#30
Wouldn't be the first time.	ForgoTheConsequence	Aug 2012	#31
"Reports indicate 12 Children being held Hostage by Militia Men in Sikh Temple"	Comrade_McKenzie	Aug 2012	#33
Meanwhile the headline on Drudge?	ForgoTheConsequence	Aug 2012	#37
and yet the gun industry and gun culture rolls on and on	Botany	Aug 2012	#40
Oh but guns are sooo SEXY (barf) Every video, movie, tv show, that features guns glamorizes them.	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#43
Bottom line is that it is RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE.	bluedigger	Aug 2012	#47
It's easier to attack the 2nd amendment	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#64
a violent gun-worshipping society makes hate much more deadly	DBoon	Aug 2012	#93
It's a cruel irony that a fundamental tenet of Sikhism is respect for all religions ....	TahitiNut	Aug 2012	#106
Sorry, but there are intolerant people EVERYWHERE, but the US is the place where they use guns	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#118
Cue the NRA to blame the person, his mother, and bad aiming	Heather MC	Aug 2012	#65
And the fact that the Sikh's didn't arm themselves properly	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#174
That photo makes me sick	Jessy169	Aug 2012	#80
Why? Did they have anything to do with this crime? n/t	PavePusher	Aug 2012	#87
yes	Care Acutely	Aug 2012	#121
+1	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#127
In an indirect way, I believe yes, they did	Jessy169	Aug 2012	#139
Obviously, we don't know the motivation for this shooting but...	RedStateLiberal	Aug 2012	#44
I'm noticing the same thing. The chickens are coming home to roost.	yardwork	Aug 2012	#133
he shot a cop too. this is on cnn live right now	IcyPeas	Aug 2012	#45
Officer shot, will survive ...	auntAgonist	Aug 2012	#49
Sure are alot of PEOPLE killing lately..	iamthebandfanman	Aug 2012	#53
yep, we're on track for a record year of mass shootings	Jessy169	Aug 2012	#144
Prove to me that you didn't just make something up and post it	slackmaster	Aug 2012	#169
Well.. in the past four years, an astronomical number of guns have been sold in America.	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#163
In spite of the fear-mongering, murders and other violent crimes have decreased for the past 4 years	slackmaster	Aug 2012	#167
K&R, sadly.	WorseBeforeBetter	Aug 2012	#58
If only	Shadowflash	Aug 2012	#60
Well, their (ceremonial) daggers are pretty useless against semi-automatic handguns.	TahitiNut	Aug 2012	#88
Even if he hadn't had a gun,	JoeyT	Aug 2012	#172
=More dead bodies	gasser85	Aug 2012	#130
Yup.	Shadowflash	Aug 2012	#132
Another Christian Terrorist!	citizen blues	Aug 2012	#63
Nothing Christian about slaughter of the unarmed. Just nutfuckerian.	lonestarnot	Aug 2012	#69
CNN says	UnrepentantLiberal	Aug 2012	#67
Police: Officer at Sikh temple shooting "put down" 1 shooter; no word on shooter's condition	Whoa_Nelly	Aug 2012	#68
Just more guns used for their intended purpose. nt	onehandle	Aug 2012	#70
Ignore the gun psychos, onehandle.	slackmaster	Aug 2012	#76
New York Times reports seven dead.	Hissyspit	Aug 2012	#72
6 victims dead, plus 1 gunman dead	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#74
Live feed at link:	Ruby the Liberal	Aug 2012	#75
Press release from the Indian embassy:	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#77
4 hours in and still nothing on Drudge.	ForgoTheConsequence	Aug 2012	#79
Skinhead?	BootinUp	Aug 2012	#81
I can hardly handle this--very close to where I live & I know some who worship here! :-(	hue	Aug 2012	#89
hundreds of miles away	handmade34	Aug 2012	#94
My new next door neighbor came over to see if our Dish was working.	revolution breeze	Aug 2012	#105
(((RB))) nt	blaze	Aug 2012	#150
Hopefully you didn't let him tune to Fox Lies	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#177
My satellite was out too	revolution breeze	Aug 2012	#189
Even money he's a teabagging Michelle Bachmann groupie.	Archae	Aug 2012	#96
More likely a member or wannbe of the Aryan Nation EOM	Whoa_Nelly	Aug 2012	#100
Whatever he was, he's dead now and no longer a threat.	alfredo	Aug 2012	#115
Prayers upon prayers to everyone there	Iliyah	Aug 2012	#102
Yep. Mass murder has become that gun industry lobby's best money making scheme.	onehandle	Aug 2012	#107
McVeigh didn't use a gun.	Archae	Aug 2012	#111
And there hasn't been another McVeigh in 17 years	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#178
Are you calling me a moron?	Archae	Aug 2012	#179
The Sikhs amongst my acquaintences are absolutely hands down the most peaceful people I know.	patrice	Aug 2012	#109
Seven dead. So, how many more need to die before we address gun control?	AtomicKitten	Aug 2012	#112
How many more need to die before you address GOP control?	GliderGuider	Aug 2012	#124
You and us both	primavera	Aug 2012	#142
Before we address racism? Before we address religious hatred?	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#129
Those too	primavera	Aug 2012	#147
Yes, but that's what I was saying	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#153
Gun control would be a hell of a lot easier than curing ignorance, extremism, and bigotry.	AtomicKitten	Aug 2012	#154
Indeed.	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#156
Again. 7 humans dead by the existence of the GOP.	BanTheGOP	Aug 2012	#119
Would you stop making the same stupid-ass post	Codeine	Aug 2012	#145
Methinks he's both,	liberalhistorian	Aug 2012	#160
troll for sure, i thought he had been banned	JI7	Aug 2012	#165
Crime rates have been falling for almost 20 years. The last four years are no different.	slackmaster	Aug 2012	#168
Nah, we don't need anymore gun control ... WTF	MindMover	Aug 2012	#123
Kick! n/t	Tx4obama	Aug 2012	#126
" A sikh must have the courage to defend the rights of all who are wrongfully	brewens	Aug 2012	#135
I pretty much guarantee you he did. I wonder what his FR handle was?	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#141
A moment of silence, please, for the victims of this senseless act of gun violence	primavera	Aug 2012	#136
FBI and ATF at a home in Cudahy, neighborhood being evacuated.	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#137
Stoopit journalist on the live feed asked what "domestic terrorism" was.	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#143
OMG	get the red out	Aug 2012	#152
She talked like a fresh young news babe.	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#159
This is so sad...	Kalidurga	Aug 2012	#157
Well, I can see that everyone will have to give up their freedom to remain safe....	lib2DaBone	Aug 2012	#158
I think people would do it too which scares me more than anything.	Mojorabbit	Aug 2012	#164
By "give up their right to be safe",	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#182
So how do you propose to get rid of those 200 million guns?	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2012	#184
how do you propose to stop the shooting rampages?	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#185
How about single payer health care with mental health coverage? nt	hack89	Aug 2012	#186
about as likely as the gun ban the NRA is screaming about	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#187
If you could devote your time and effort to health care or gun control which would you pick?	hack89	Aug 2012	#188
It's hard to not come to the conclusion that this was a deranged act of hate	davidpdx	Aug 2012	#166
An interesting freeper post...	sufrommich	Aug 2012	#170
Something nearly identical has been or will be posted in the gungeon	Doctor_J	Aug 2012	#175
Of course they are, because no Real Progressives (TM) disagree with you!	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2012	#180

Response to Whoa_Nelly (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:15 PM

villager (18,983 posts)

1. Bald white male with multiple guns!?

Who possibly could have guessed....

Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin

1. Bald white male with multiple guns!?

10. You mean this guy?

29. That is a rifle...

50. Nah! He never shot a man he didn't like n/t

97. Wayne LaPierre (on the left) began as a legislative aide to Democratic Virginia Delegate Vic Thomas

173. Yeah, it's probably a perfect time to join the pro-gun culture

176. Bill Clinton seems to have some expertise.

181. Obama has pandered to the NRA

183. Although mentioning "the NRA" is a dog-whistle to some, it has no effect on me because

98. The guy on the right looks like he is already fantasizing about being alone with that gun.

131. Well, those are definitely domestic terrorists...

2. Local Police Scanner link

71. Thanks for the link. nt

3. Another Moment of Silence - Guns

4. Sikhs believe in the brotherhood of man, and equality of all. The shooter must have seen his turban,

57. That was my 1st thought.

59. +1 eom

114. Ignorance and a gun is a bad mix.

125. how about sisterhood of women?

155. Equality of women in Sikhism

171. In their case brotherhood includes both genders.

5. My thoughts and prayers

6. The perpetrator probably mistook it for a mosque

14. Regardless of the shooter possibly making any associative mistakes

20. Or something equally dumb.

7. $100 that this guy is a wingnut bigot who mistook Sikhs for Muslims.

9. Yep. (nt)

18. That's probably a given. Although it's also possible he just thought anyone non-Christian & foreign

24. I remember after 9/11 hearing that a lot of Sikhs were harassed...

52. A Sikh man was murdered right after 9/11.

54. In Texas an idiot shot a gas station owner right after 9/11

101. I believe another was killed in Phoenix, too.

140. i think that guy was executed a couple of years ago or even more recently nt

148. Yup...

151. i think one of the guys he shot but survived said he didn't think he should be executed

110. crap like that happened in my city...

22. Easy bet.

23. My bet on that one would be "first talking head to appear, period." (nt)

34. Not going to bet against that

66. And hates women and children apparently.

73. +1

8. That's an interesting description of the perp

16. It's pretty mcuh a stereotype, innit?

17. Another 'if the shoe fits' situation, I suspect.

113. Stereotyping is a basic cognitive process, helps us function in unfamiliar contexts, like a

11. That's horrific. I hope they find the perp. No doubt he has a trial of rants online they can trace.

51. "Disgruntled white men" = racist

61. Um Okay. You're right.. there are NO angry white men who blame people of other races. n/t

84. Wrong. In fact, I think that "angry white men who blame people of other races" can be KKK members

62. Us poor maligned white guys.

104. Well, it's not all bad. Nor are white guys always maligned. Some religious worshippers belief that

78. FAIL. Going postal on your ex-supervisor != emptying a gun into a place of worship.

83. Um, FAIL yourself. "Disgruntled white men" != either "Going postal on your ex-supervisor" or

116. thank you. nicely put. n/t

12. Oh boy. I am appalled at this.

28. There is a Sikh who lives in my apartment building.

13. My god.

15. Police scanner reporting fires breaking out in the temple

27. Abandoned food burning on the stove, according to the scanner.

35. Thanks EOM

19. du rec. nt

21. Say a prayer.

25. What a conversation!

36. An unfathomable event, indeed.

42. And I certainly do not elevate my prayers to the level of God's wisdom.

46. Peace.

90. They are indeed the same G-d

99. "the same G-d"? A male bipod who looks just like us? Except for being invisible?

117. actually that depiction G-d is from Christianity

122. Interesting.

128. I think it is the Jesus thing

134. And (I'm not making this up) Mormons apparently believe that Satan is the brother of Jesus.

108. The joy is that we can regularly have these conversations in this country

161. Maybe Shiva, the Hindu God of Destruction, was listening? (Shiva is the God

38. As-Samia (All Hearing)

39. Thank you.

55. Peace.

103. No thank you

85. I believe God hears all prayers