Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:13 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
DCCC apologizes to Sheldon Adelson
Source: Politico
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee issued a public apology Thursday afternoon to billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson for charging that the Republican mega donor was tied to the Chinese mob and a prostitution ring. “In press statements issued on June 29 and July 2, 2012, the DCCC made unsubstantiated allegations that attacked Sheldon Adelson, a supporter of the opposing party. This was wrong. The statements were untrue and unfair and we retract them,” the DCCC wrote. “The DCCC extends its sincere apology to Mr. Adelson and his family for any injury we have caused.” The statement is an attempt by the Democratic party committee to try and make a potential defamation lawsuit go away. Adelson’s attorneys threatened legal action last month after the DCCC sent out an email June 29 stating that Adelson “personally approved of prostitution and knew of other improper activity at his company’s properties in the Chinese enclave of Macau, China.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79337.html
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| Freddie Stubbs | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| AC_Mem | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| Thor_MN | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| FiveGoodMen | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| onehandle | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| JDPriestly | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| tularetom | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| Bradical79 | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| tomm2thumbs | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| Don C. Nuttin | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| sarcasmo | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| 6000eliot | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| leveymg | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| leveymg | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| Kingofalldems | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| fascisthunter | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| Kingofalldems | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Aug 2012 | #38 | |
| Kingofalldems | Aug 2012 | #40 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Sep 2012 | #41 | |
| Nine | Aug 2012 | #39 | |
| fascisthunter | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| stockholmer | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| freshwest | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| Judi Lynn | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| UnrepentantLiberal | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| Judi Lynn | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| Kingofalldems | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| UnrepentantLiberal | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| Kingofalldems | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| Broderick | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| Lint Head | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| MADem | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| wordpix | Aug 2012 | #32 | |
| wordpix | Aug 2012 | #33 | |
| progressivebydesign | Aug 2012 | #34 | |
| and-justice-for-all | Aug 2012 | #35 | |
| Kingofalldems | Aug 2012 | #36 | |
| sarcasmo | Aug 2012 | #37 | |
| tonekat | Sep 2012 | #42 |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:16 PM
AC_Mem (1,305 posts)
1. WHY would the DCCC
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put something out against a billionaire, who is bound to spend unlimited money to buy the election - that they did not know was 100% true?
OMG. We can make NO mistakes. None. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:20 PM
Thor_MN (4,592 posts)
2. I also apologize
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I mistakenly thought he was a pederast with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. Turns out it was some other republican.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:21 PM
onehandle (35,364 posts)
3. Collaborator to Chinese Communists and Whores Sponsors GOP.
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I do not apologize.
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Response to onehandle (Reply #3)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:55 AM
JDPriestly (37,711 posts)
16. Yes. If he didn't get all that money from prostitution and crime, where in the
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world did he get it? Gambling and has-been shows alone do not make that kind of money.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:23 PM
tularetom (17,379 posts)
4. Let the slimy bastard sue 'em
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I'll bet the statements aren't that far from the truth, but once again, the Dems are bluffed into submission.
I'm pretty sure that Adelson does not want any of this stuff to come out in court. They didn't just pull that statement out their ass. I mistakenly made a donation to the DCCC some months ago. That won't happen again. |
Response to tularetom (Reply #4)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:43 PM
Bradical79 (415 posts)
7. I think it wasn't too smart wording it the way they did.
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Unless they have proof like an email from him, recording, or some other fool proof piece of evidence, it was kind of a stupid thing to say. The way I would have done it is show some of the things that would lead to that conclusion and phrased it in a more suggestive manner rather than flat out saying he is personally running a prostitution ring.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:41 PM
tomm2thumbs (9,174 posts)
6. from the article
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Info at the article indicates that Steven Jacobs CEO of the Sands China subsidiary was fired by Adelson in 2010, and it was he who has suggested that Adelson approved of prostitution at the China property for financial reasons.
If anyone knows, it would be him. It may come to light during the wrongful termination lawsuit. Or maybe someone will get a nice check for everything to just go away. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:49 PM
Don C. Nuttin (84 posts)
8. Reading isn't committing libel! Neither is telling the truth.
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Last edited Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:07 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I would suggest that readers google "triad," "Macao," and "organized crime." I certainly wouldn't want to libel an honest businessman. I'm just sayin'. You might bump into some information about a government that can be bought, and people in the government-buying business. You might bump into some information about the triads infiltrating Macao casinos and the people who, uhh, "do business" with them. The internet is a wonderful thing.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:22 PM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
9. The Republicans never apologize, why does the DCCC?
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?
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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:19 PM
6000eliot (4,260 posts)
13. Because you have to prove you are telling the truth if you are defending yourself against a libel
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charge. Google won't work, either. Apologizing is the wisest move in this case.
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Response to 6000eliot (Reply #13)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:31 PM
leveymg (26,294 posts)
14. No, you simply have to show that you didn't mean any untruth.
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Libel requires a showing of malice as well as intentional inaccuracy. Adelson would probably lose.
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Response to leveymg (Reply #14)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:01 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
21. Malice requires a "knowing or reckless disregard for the truth"
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #21)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:50 PM
leveymg (26,294 posts)
22. That's right - as there's at least circumstantial evidence, libel wouldn't apply.
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:29 PM
Kingofalldems (11,046 posts)
10. He posted gleefully.
Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:59 PM
fascisthunter (28,603 posts)
12. indeed... and some will reason it away, because they don't care
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lets hear it for the right wing troll... yay!
PS - without him, there is no debate I guess. Gotta watch out for that bottom line. It's ok, I'll say it, you don't have to. |
Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:32 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,837 posts)
15. Move along. Nothing to see here. nt
Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #15)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 08:47 PM
Kingofalldems (11,046 posts)
31. Adelson now under investigation for money laundering
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Hahahaha!
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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #10)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:26 AM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
38. You bet I did
(AP) NEW YORK - Billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson has filed a defamation lawsuit in New York against the National Jewish Democratic Council and top officials, saying they made libelous statements regarding his political contributions. Every dollar the DCCC spends defending itself from a lawsuit is one less dollar available to elect Democrats to the House. They knew that this guy was going to sue, and decided to do the smart thing. Thank God! The National Jewish Democratic Council would have been wise to have followed the DCCC's lead on this. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #38)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:04 PM
Kingofalldems (11,046 posts)
40. Well then maybe we should all apologize to his daughter too
Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #40)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 02:40 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
41. There is no need for any apologies from those who have not made slanderous statements
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:57 PM
fascisthunter (28,603 posts)
11. fuck you!
Response to fascisthunter (Reply #11)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:49 AM
stockholmer (3,751 posts)
17. fuck who?
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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #11)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:40 AM
Judi Lynn (77,541 posts)
18. I concur. Thank you. n/t
Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #18)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:45 AM
UnrepentantLiberal (11,700 posts)
19. That was a fun jury.
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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #19)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:52 AM
Judi Lynn (77,541 posts)
20. Didn't take long!
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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #19)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 01:31 PM
Kingofalldems (11,046 posts)
25. I would love to see that one.
Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #25)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 02:25 PM
UnrepentantLiberal (11,700 posts)
27. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
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At Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:29 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
fuck you! http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=183995 REASON FOR ALERT: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/? com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.) ALERTER'S COMMENTS: There's no discourse here. You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:41 AM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT. Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: It's not clear who this cursing is directed towards. The DCCC? Sheldon Adelson? The OP? In any case, it doesn't seem very conducive to productive discussion. Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: OMG! potty mouth! meh. Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Not sure if the "fuck you" is to the OP or the DCCC. If the former, then "HIDE" would be in order. But, it is unclear, so I will err on the side of caution. Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Appropriate, considering the situation. Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Meh. He has point. Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future. |
Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #27)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 06:56 PM
Kingofalldems (11,046 posts)
30. Thanks, jury got it right.
Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #18)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 10:26 AM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,837 posts)
24. Yup. It gets more obvious by the day. nt
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:55 PM
Broderick (4,578 posts)
23. I like it
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Create whatever narrative that might hold truth. Create the firestorm or create the story. Apologize on page 30.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 02:20 PM
Lint Head (10,433 posts)
26. Is the backbone getting arthritic?
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 02:49 PM
MADem (85,870 posts)
28. Well, that's better than consorting with Peruvian drug bosses and running a child-trafficking
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enterprise!
Not that I'm saying he did that, either. But I'd ask LBJ's pig what he thought about it, for sure....while I got my private investigators to work in Macau! |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 11:56 AM
wordpix (12,475 posts)
33. On Adelson, No Apologies (article featuring SA's known illegal/unethical activities)
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http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/on-adelson-no-apologies-165046396.html
snip Sure, Democrats want to embarrass Adelson - who may become the single largest Republican donor this year - by repeating scandalous allegations contained in a lawsuit filed by a dismissed employee, alleging that Adelson conscienced prostitution in his Macau casinos. Thus, Chinese prostitution money was flowing to Republican coffers, they said. snip But those charges are still being litigated. So let's confine ourselves to the well-known things Democrats could have pointed out about Adelson. For example, Adelson has elected not to sign a contract with the Culinary union, which is his right. But Adelson went further: When the Culinary staged a pre-opening protest at The Venetian, the casino's staff demanded police arrest demonstrators, and when officers refused, Sands sued. A federal judge determined the sidewalks outside Strip casinos are public forums, but Sands appealed that ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court before being rebuffed. snip More in the article about Adelson being sued by former driver and security detail for stiffing them. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:01 PM
progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)
34. Perhaps it's a strategy, as Adelson is being investigated by the Gov.
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Could be that they don't want that stuff to muck things up.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:27 PM
and-justice-for-all (14,763 posts)
35. That is bullshit!
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Its fucking true what is going on in Macau!
Adelson attempts buy a President and that is ok, but bring the skeletons out of the fuckers closet and he gets an apology!?? fuck that. |
Response to and-justice-for-all (Reply #35)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:12 PM
Kingofalldems (11,046 posts)
36. With what happened with his daughter at the convention yesterday
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Last edited Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:21 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) any apology should be retracted.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:34 PM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
37. Am I the only one tired of the DCCC apologizing.
Response to sarcasmo (Reply #37)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 08:12 PM
tonekat (901 posts)

