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kpete

(71,961 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:15 PM Jul 2012

Scalia on Obama: 'What can he do to me?'

Source: Politico

Scalia on Obama: 'What can he do to me?'


Comments (135) By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 7/29/12 10:29 AM EDT
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia on Sunday said he did not “view it as a threat” when President Barack Obama in April predicted his signature healthcare overhaul “will be upheld because it should be upheld” and that anything less would constitute “judicial activism” by the high court.

Scalia conceded in an appearance on "Fox News Sunday" that Obama’s forceful comments on a pending Supreme Court case were “unusual, but as I say I don’t criticize the president publicly. And he normally doesn’t criticize me.”

But when host Chris Wallace pressed, asking whether Scalia, who in June sided with a minority seeking to overturn the law, felt “any pressure as a result of that to vote a certain way,” Scalia laughed.

“No. What can he do to me? Or to any of us?” the justice responded. “We have life tenure. And we have it precisely so that we will not be influenced by politics, by threats from anybody.”

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Scalia on Obama: 'What can he do to me?' (Original Post) kpete Jul 2012 OP
Where's my clue-by-four? sakabatou Jul 2012 #1
ha...that's a good one Roland99 Jul 2012 #40
It's a much more powerful weapon than the clue-bat sakabatou Jul 2012 #44
How about legislation forcing morons like Scalia a 10 year term. Panasonic Jul 2012 #2
You mean a ratified constitutional amendment? AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #14
Only by Constitutional amendment. On that Scalia is correct. Supreme Court Justices 1monster Jul 2012 #15
Can be sure but likely to be? Nope, I dont see it happening. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #16
Sigh. Agreed. 1monster Jul 2012 #22
If they were given life tenure to buffer them against the slings and arrows of outrageous politics, Dustlawyer Jul 2012 #38
Were lecture tours big in the late 18th Century? Doubt if the idea even occurred to the 1monster Jul 2012 #41
life time tenure should go first. samsingh Jul 2012 #3
Uh, no, it is that way for the reason stated jberryhill Jul 2012 #28
Yep... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #29
That reason is obviously no longer valid. Occulus Jul 2012 #30
I see, and for whom might they work after that? jberryhill Jul 2012 #31
the republicans and their interests. Companies that support republicans samsingh Jul 2012 #43
To be reinstated every 4-8 years when the political situation changes 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #46
the guys a joke PatrynXX Jul 2012 #4
Do you really think Scalia is "not be influenced by politics"? savalez Jul 2012 #5
No, not parroting. More like he is the dummy in a ventriloquist act and he has a hand shoved right cstanleytech Jul 2012 #17
Drones tularetom Jul 2012 #6
I ask the same thing every time I hear that ridiculous accusation Enrique Jul 2012 #7
Fuck Fat Tony! ... n/m Bozita Jul 2012 #8
Send in the drones. thesquanderer Jul 2012 #9
What can the President do to you? Constitutionally, nothing... except ask Congress to impeach you. DRoseDARs Jul 2012 #10
OH there is something Obama CAN do. Joe Bacon Jul 2012 #20
Not Constitutionally onenote Jul 2012 #53
WTH is a Supreme Court Justice doing on Fox "news" that is not a news channel in the least. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #11
So he is only worried about the legal consequences of being a complete douchbag. pennylane100 Jul 2012 #12
Scalia is 76 Botany Jul 2012 #13
Hopefully that time will be when a democrat holds the whitehouse and or the dems cstanleytech Jul 2012 #18
Sotomayor has Diabetes, Clarence Thomas is Fit as a fiddle can you believe it. crimson77 Jul 2012 #21
I know plenty of Italian who looks a hundres times worse then him crimson77 Jul 2012 #23
he's very fat, too, looks like he eats way too much animal fat wordpix Jul 2012 #52
Nino The Fixer The Wizard Jul 2012 #19
Scalia BE10sCoach Jul 2012 #24
Scalia sounds like an "enemy combatant" to me. Fozzledick Jul 2012 #25
But he's right. He's immune from any kind of consequences from anyone. Kablooie Jul 2012 #26
You might want to brush up on your USC, your statement is misguided. DRoseDARs Jul 2012 #32
You got me. I tend towards hyperbole I'm afraid. Kablooie Jul 2012 #33
Mental incompetency is not used for impeachment. former9thward Jul 2012 #45
That's strange. Kablooie Jul 2012 #47
The standard for impeachment is defined in the Constitution. former9thward Jul 2012 #48
...such an arrogant ass. SoapBox Jul 2012 #27
Judges have forgotten that they answer to the people. It's problematic and needs to be resolved. nt Firebrand Gary Jul 2012 #34
If he were a Republican I would say federal investigation using tax dollars Fearless Jul 2012 #35
Obama, no. John Roberts can make your life hell if he feels like it, Tony. aquart Jul 2012 #36
I'm curious. former9thward Jul 2012 #50
I would think this: aquart Jul 2012 #51
I'm not sure why you consider that "hell". former9thward Jul 2012 #55
On the subject of hair dye.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #37
Scalia's brain is clouded by advancing dementia. He needs to retire ! CarmanK Jul 2012 #39
Scalia is a shit stain on the Court & exudes some of the worst traits of humanity. -nt CrispyQ Jul 2012 #42
Remember When Supreme Court Justices Behaved Themselves In Public? Paladin Jul 2012 #49
Well, he's technically right Ter Jul 2012 #54
 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
2. How about legislation forcing morons like Scalia a 10 year term.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:19 PM
Jul 2012

His term is already up. Way past up.

He needs to go see the solitary confinenment and make himself comfortable there and stay there permanently.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
15. Only by Constitutional amendment. On that Scalia is correct. Supreme Court Justices
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jul 2012

were given life time tenure to buffer them against the slings and arrows of outrageous politics.

However, since Scalia and his faithful henchman Thomas (among others) are already playing with outrageous politcis, perhaps they should be reminded that they can be impeached...

cstanleytech

(26,232 posts)
16. Can be sure but likely to be? Nope, I dont see it happening.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:46 PM
Jul 2012

I mean heck Thomas wasnt impeached for his failure to report his wifes income.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
38. If they were given life tenure to buffer them against the slings and arrows of outrageous politics,
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 08:05 AM
Jul 2012

Then they should not be permitted speaking fees, travel costs etc., to speak in front of crooked, corpratists espousing the right to purchase our government!

1monster

(11,012 posts)
41. Were lecture tours big in the late 18th Century? Doubt if the idea even occurred to the
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 10:41 AM
Jul 2012

framers of the the Constitution.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
30. That reason is obviously no longer valid.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:02 AM
Jul 2012

Scalia, Thomas, and Roberts are all as political as they come. They aren't merely influenced by politics- they're compromised. Or operatives. Or both.

Limit the SCOTUS to three Presidential terms and then bar them, by Amendment, from any other form of employment with the government at any level, right down to dog catcher. NO position in our government should have life tenure. None.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. I see, and for whom might they work after that?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:05 AM
Jul 2012

Yes, those justices are overtly political. That would not be a first.

But the prospect of picking up a plum position post-service also causes problems.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
46. To be reinstated every 4-8 years when the political situation changes
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 02:43 PM
Jul 2012

remember "what goes around . . . "

savalez

(3,517 posts)
5. Do you really think Scalia is "not be influenced by politics"?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:23 PM
Jul 2012

I'm pretty sure I've heard him parrot a few RW talking points.

cstanleytech

(26,232 posts)
17. No, not parroting. More like he is the dummy in a ventriloquist act and he has a hand shoved right
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:48 PM
Jul 2012

up inside his ass controlling what he says and does.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
7. I ask the same thing every time I hear that ridiculous accusation
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:35 PM
Jul 2012

the RW is saying Obama is threatening the conservative judges. I say wtf can you possibly mean?

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
9. Send in the drones.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jul 2012

If that case ever gets to the Supreme Court, Scalia might be wise to declare unconstitutional a President's ability to unilaterally decide to send a drone after an American citizen. Otherwise, the answer to "what can he do to me" could be pretty deadly.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
10. What can the President do to you? Constitutionally, nothing... except ask Congress to impeach you.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:43 PM
Jul 2012

That in-and-of-itself is a long-shot, but your abuses of the bench certainly warrant in. The legal case can easily be made to have you removed. You should be grateful the bar had been set so high after Presidents Washington and Jefferson both attempted to have a USSC justice impeached.

Joe Bacon

(5,163 posts)
20. OH there is something Obama CAN do.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:02 AM
Jul 2012

Obama and the Congress can simply pay Scalia's salary, and then pay for nothing else. No clerks, no office supplies, not even toilet paper for Scalia to wipe his ass with.

onenote

(42,585 posts)
53. Not Constitutionally
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 12:37 AM
Jul 2012

Leaving aside that the chances of what you suggest happening are absolutely zero, even if it did happen it wouldn't be Constitutional. Congress cannot pass a law that singles out one Justice out of nine for unequal treatment, particularly where the basis for doing so was designed either to muzzle Scalia's speech or to influence his judicial decisionmaking.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
11. WTH is a Supreme Court Justice doing on Fox "news" that is not a news channel in the least.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jul 2012

He is the most political of all of them, and he has the nerve to say that he's got a lifetime appointment so that he won't be interfered with by politics??? OMG the irony.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
12. So he is only worried about the legal consequences of being a complete douchbag.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jul 2012

Well, let us hope that is all he has to worry about. There are a lot of people out there just as evil as he is and because they do not own the courts, they may have to use their imagination.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
13. Scalia is 76
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jul 2012

Kennedy is 76

Thomas is a very old 64

Roberts is 57 but he has health issues

*******

Scalia's fall is only a matter of time.

cstanleytech

(26,232 posts)
18. Hopefully that time will be when a democrat holds the whitehouse and or the dems
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:49 PM
Jul 2012

hold a true majority control over both the senate and congress when it happens.

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
23. I know plenty of Italian who looks a hundres times worse then him
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:06 AM
Jul 2012

and they live til their 90's, Scalia doesn't exactly have the most hectic work scedule either.

The Wizard

(12,536 posts)
19. Nino The Fixer
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jul 2012

as he was known in the Nixon White House is a political hack who never distinguished himself as a lawyer. When one SC justice has the power to stop an election recount to reach a political end that's as political as it gets. He belongs in an orange jump suit. Fux News isn't a political propaganda outlet. Yeah right. Possibly the most corrupt Supreme Court Justice in history. A scaffold and a head hood are appropriate for this scumbag.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
25. Scalia sounds like an "enemy combatant" to me.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:15 AM
Jul 2012

Perhaps Obama should give him a lesson in the powers of the "unitary executive" that he's already declared to be legal.

Personally, I'd be happy to let a Grand Jury examine the facts of his felonious abuse of judicial authority to tamper with a federal election by illegally obstructing the vote count in Florida.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
26. But he's right. He's immune from any kind of consequences from anyone.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:25 AM
Jul 2012

He's completely free to be as big an asshole as he wants and remain totally untouchable by politics or the law.

That's the way it was set up and continues.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
32. You might want to brush up on your USC, your statement is misguided.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:13 AM
Jul 2012

Article I, Section 3 of the USC grants Congress the power to impeach Judiciary and Executive branch officials. Article II, Section 4 lays out the guideline for what is considered impeachable offenses. This power has been brought to bear on both presidents and USSC justices. All we lack is a simple majority vote to impeach in the House and a super majority (2/3rds) vote to impeach in the Senate. He's not untouchable, but it's a high bar we're not likely to hurdle. However, speaking false assertions isn't helpful.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
33. You got me. I tend towards hyperbole I'm afraid.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:56 AM
Jul 2012

High crimes and misdemeanors of course, if they can be defined, could lead to impeachment.
Committing a crime and I suppose mental incompetency, though I didn't see it mentioned, would lead to impeachment.

But it's nearly impossible to impeach him on his legal decisions unless they could be proven to be aiding and abetting an enemy. (A high crime, I'd assume.)

Maybe we could define the GOP as an enemy of the state and take it from there. Heh.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
45. Mental incompetency is not used for impeachment.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 02:39 PM
Jul 2012

Justice William Douglas, a great civil liberties justice, became mentally incompetent near the end of his life. He wrote an opinion asserting trees could sue people. His fellow justices, liberal and conservative, decided to wait for him to die and they postponed cases where Douglas' vote might make the difference.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
47. That's strange.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jul 2012

I guess impeachment isn't really the correct way to deal with a justice who becomes mentally incompetent because it implies conscious outlawed behavior which is not this case.

I guess they could try to convince him to retire but it's strange there isn't any mechanism for replacing a mentally ill judge.
Maybe they thought that it is such a vaguely defined malady that it could be misused as a political move to unseat a judge.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
48. The standard for impeachment is defined in the Constitution.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jul 2012

"High crimes and misdemeanors". Mental issues are not crimes.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
35. If he were a Republican I would say federal investigation using tax dollars
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:13 AM
Jul 2012

To obstruct him from doing his job...

Since the president is a Democrat, I would assume we'll get Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert to shine a light on his stupidity for the next twenty years or so. Maybe not as quick, but certainly more satisfying.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
50. I'm curious.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jul 2012

What do you think a Chief Justice can do to an Associate Justice to make their life "hell"?

aquart

(69,014 posts)
51. I would think this:
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:43 PM
Jul 2012

"If the Chief Justice votes with the majority in a case decided by the Supreme Court, he or she may choose to write the Court's opinion, or to assign the task to one of the Associate Justices."

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
55. I'm not sure why you consider that "hell".
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:25 PM
Jul 2012

Justices want to write opinions. They go into case law reference books that are studied by thousands of law students. The opinions are used by thousands of judges for precedent in their decisions. You don't go on the SC if you don't like to write or see your name in print. In practice opinions are divided pretty much evenly among the nine justices during the term.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
37. On the subject of hair dye....
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:49 AM
Jul 2012

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Pick a color dude! And do the roots before the next interview.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
49. Remember When Supreme Court Justices Behaved Themselves In Public?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jul 2012

Seems like a long time ago, doesn't it?

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
54. Well, he's technically right
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:00 AM
Jul 2012

They don't have to worry about pressure from anyone, they are there for life.

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