Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:24 AM
kpete (38,874 posts)
ROMNEY DOESN’T KNOW IF HE PAID A TAX RATE LOWER THAN 13.9%
Source: Think Progress
ROMNEY DOESN’T KNOW IF HE PAID A TAX RATE LOWER THAN 13.9% | Mitt Romney has thus far refused to heed the call from a growing number of people within the Republican party to release more tax returns. And during an interview with ABC’s David Muir from Israel, the former Massachusetts governor revealed that the documents may show that he paid very little in taxes: Emily Friedman@EmilyABC Romney tells @DavidMuir he doesn't know if there was a year when he paid a tax rate lower than 13.9%. Says he'll have to go back and look. 29 Jul 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/29/602501/romney-doesnt-know-if-he-paid-a-tax-rate-lower-than-139/ source
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| kpete | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| bemildred | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| YewNork | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| Laura PourMeADrink | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| swayne | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| russspeakeasy | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| spindetective | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| LibDemAlways | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| Stuart G | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| wordpix | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| Berlum | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| DCKit | Jul 2012 | #20 | |
| SheilaT | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| Igel | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #23 | |
| kestrel91316 | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| Posteritatis | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| Maineman | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| Stuart G | Jul 2012 | #17 | |
| Johnny2X2X | Jul 2012 | #19 | |
| Igel | Jul 2012 | #22 | |
| primavera | Jul 2012 | #24 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:27 AM
bemildred (67,484 posts)
1. Well, he has servants for that. Servants for everything really. nt
Response to bemildred (Reply #1)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:32 AM
YewNork (460 posts)
4. Nothing wrong with having servants, everything wrong with not paying your fair share
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Last edited Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:32 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) There's nothing wrong with having servants, if you can afford them.
BUT, there's a lot wrong if you're a multi-millionaire who pays a significantly lower percentage of his income in taxes than the majority of taxpaying Americans do. |
Response to bemildred (Reply #1)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:13 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (15,193 posts)
8. lol
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:30 AM
swayne (337 posts)
2. Why won't more of the American Press ask simple questions like this.
Response to swayne (Reply #2)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:33 AM
russspeakeasy (5,722 posts)
5. Because they want to keep their job.
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Response to swayne (Reply #2)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:00 PM
spindetective (25 posts)
9. I'm with you on that matter...
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I guess it's up to us to 'press the press' to dig deeper through social networking.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:31 AM
LibDemAlways (12,940 posts)
3. Romney must think the entire population is stupid. He knows
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exactly how much he didn't pay in taxes. He used every tax dodge in the book to shelter his obscene wealth while ordinary folks (me for instance) paid 25% or more on incomes that he'd consider pocket change. Government by the wealthy for the wealthy.
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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #3)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:21 PM
Stuart G (7,659 posts)
18. He knows, yes he knows to the penny..
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Another Bold Face Lie..
..Yea, he knows...he doesn't have to "look" If he is telling the truth on this, And he can prove it... Then I'll buy him another horse..thank you.. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:47 AM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
6. well, WE know his dancing horse got him a $77,000 tax deduction
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Rmoney knows perfectly well how much he's paid in taxes. He has to sign the document, even if it's prepared by others.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/18/1100947/-Romney-Took-77-000-Tax-Deduction-For-His-Dancing-Horse |
Response to wordpix (Reply #6)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:01 PM
lastlib (3,739 posts)
15. under penalty of perjury.
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If he's not looking at them and verifying the information he submits, he is committing a crime.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:00 PM
Berlum (3,679 posts)
7. Willard demos once again that he is totally into Republican Occultism
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Hiding the truth. Adoring Mammon. Ptooooooey on all that,..
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Response to Berlum (Reply #7)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:14 AM
DCKit (18,206 posts)
20. And all this time I thought he was a Mormonite.
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Spell check doesn't like the work "mammonite", I guess.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:01 PM
SheilaT (12,439 posts)
10. Well, I have no idea what tax rate I pay at.
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I have my taxes done by a professional, I make sure I give him all the little papers that arrive connected to my taxes, sign the thing, and usually write a check. and that's it.
I bet most people, even those who use the short form, really don't know what their overall tax rate is. |
Response to SheilaT (Reply #10)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:58 PM
lastlib (3,739 posts)
14. "most pepole" aren't running for president on a platform of alleged financial skills.
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(I know mine is pretty close to 22% with all my deductions/exemptions. According to my tax preparer, I don't really make enough money to use a loophole--lol.)
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Response to lastlib (Reply #14)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:02 AM
Igel (17,556 posts)
21. For years back?
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Once I calculated my effective tax rate. and it was really low. For last year it was something like 4.6% for federal income tax. But the numbers are fresh enough in my mind and I know nobody's going to pitch a fit if the real number is 4.5 or 4.7%.
Start with gross income. Minus any deductions for yourself and dependents. Then take the standard deduction or itemize. (We don't itemize.) Don't forget to deduct for any IRA contributions or even just the child tax credit. Of course, those are "loopholes"; it's just that most people think of loopholes as what the other guy uses. |
Response to Igel (Reply #21)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:44 AM
lastlib (3,739 posts)
23. I could go back to 1994 in a heartbeat....
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anything older, I would have to go out to the shed and get a box....but I think that would get me back to 1982.
(actually, you're making it a little harder than you need to. Just take the total tax you paid for a given year, and divide it by your taxable income--both are shown on your 1040.) |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:12 PM
kestrel91316 (45,363 posts)
11. Translation: He has paid ZERO taxes most years and is fervently hoping
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no one finds out.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:54 PM
lastlib (3,739 posts)
12. He's lying (again)....
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(big news, right?)
What kind of "financial genius" doesn't know the tax rate he's paying on his income?? That's a basic calculation in any kind of financial planning. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:55 PM
Posteritatis (17,255 posts)
13. I've never paid a rate lower than that, and I'm including sales taxes. (nt)
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:30 PM
Maineman (582 posts)
16. Romney the so-called clever business man doesn't know anything about his own money. He must have
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hired people to increase his wealth. What a sponge bob!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:34 PM
Johnny2X2X (737 posts)
19. 15% Capital Gains Tax
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So how come he's paying 13.9% then? He doesn't even pay his full share of the ridiculously low Capital Gains Tax.
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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #19)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:05 AM
Igel (17,556 posts)
22. Deductions.
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Personal exemptions, charitable contributions, mortgage and interest paid (if that's still deductible). Things like losses carried over from previous years can ding current year's income. IRA contributions. Add them all up, and you can lose 1.1% even of a pretty hefty dividend-based income.
Gross income minus all the legal deductions is what Congress has defined as "fair." Sad, but true. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:24 PM
primavera (5,136 posts)
24. Is there anything Mitwit does know?
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All he ever seems to say is "I don't know." If he's so clueless, why would he think he should be president? Right: "I don't know."
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