Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:18 AM
kpete (38,896 posts)
Cheney: Palin pick was a mistake
Source: USA Today
Cheney: Palin pick was a mistake Former Vice President Dick Cheney is critical of the process that led to the 2008 selection of another Republican vice presidential candidate: Sarah Palin. "I think that was a mistake," Cheney said in an interview for ABC's This Week. Cheney said Palin, then the first-term governor of Alaska, failed the most basic test of being on the vice presidential short list: "Is this person capable of being president of the United States?" Said Cheney: "I like Governor Palin. I've met her. I know her ... Attractive candidate. But based on her background -- she'd only been governor for, what, two years -- I don't think she passed that test ... of being ready to take over. And I think that was a mistake." Read more: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/07/cheney-palin-pick-was-a-mistake/1#.UBVT1mGXRiA
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| kpete | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| bemildred | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| nanabugg | Jul 2012 | #40 | |
| snooper2 | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| xtraxritical | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| Cracklin Charlie | Jul 2012 | #24 | |
| alp227 | Jul 2012 | #31 | |
| alp227 | Jul 2012 | #32 | |
| nichomachus | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| muntrv | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| UTUSN | Jul 2012 | #37 | |
| magical thyme | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| YewNork | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| unblock | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| patrice | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| Third Doctor | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| DFW | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| wordpix | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| Marrah_G | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| tanyev | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| Heather MC | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| tk2kewl | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| patrice | Jul 2012 | #17 | |
| SoapBox | Jul 2012 | #19 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Jul 2012 | #20 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| skip fox | Jul 2012 | #22 | |
| rocktivity | Jul 2012 | #23 | |
| Generic Other | Jul 2012 | #25 | |
| nichomachus | Jul 2012 | #28 | |
| spindetective | Jul 2012 | #26 | |
| nichomachus | Jul 2012 | #27 | |
| Blanks | Jul 2012 | #29 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #30 | |
| Jim Lane | Jul 2012 | #34 | |
| alp227 | Jul 2012 | #33 | |
| olddad56 | Jul 2012 | #35 | |
| Tx4obama | Jul 2012 | #36 | |
| Marie Marie | Jul 2012 | #38 | |
| Quantess | Jul 2012 | #39 | |
| lib2DaBone | Jul 2012 | #41 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:22 AM
bemildred (67,509 posts)
1. Even Cheney can be right once in a while. nt
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Response to bemildred (Reply #1)
nanabugg This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:23 AM
snooper2 (16,625 posts)
2. That process should have been going on in your brain
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you senile old coot...
We SOOOOOOOOO need term limits... |
Response to snooper2 (Reply #2)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:38 PM
xtraxritical (2,982 posts)
18. Term limits will allow big money to put their "man" into office
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with no worries about reelection by voters. Term limits are a terrible idea.
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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #18)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:22 PM
Cracklin Charlie (561 posts)
24. Yeah!
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I also think term limits are a terrible idea, but I like your reason better than mine. I don't want term limits in my state, as the chances of electing a no-nothing are much too high. I like having persons representing me who know how to do their job. Electing all those idiot tea partiers in 2010 convinced me that term limits were a bad idea. |
Response to xtraxritical (Reply #18)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:05 PM
alp227 (20,476 posts)
31. Err...22nd amendment?
Response to snooper2 (Reply #2)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:05 PM
alp227 (20,476 posts)
32. what's your point about term limits?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:25 AM
nichomachus (10,085 posts)
3. Gee, Dick, do ya think?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:27 AM
muntrv (8,358 posts)
4. Like dimson's pick in 2000?
Response to muntrv (Reply #4)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:43 PM
UTUSN (34,874 posts)
37. Ya beat me to it: Note to CHEENEE, so was yours, not that Shrub is who decided n/t
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:31 AM
magical thyme (4,091 posts)
5. actually, I thought she was a perfect pick
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endlessly entertaining gift that keeps on giving. and a guaranteed loser.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:34 AM
YewNork (460 posts)
6. May Romney make such a mistake.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:35 AM
southernyankeebelle (10,725 posts)
7. He had to be honest about it. Lets face it she was the worst choice.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:35 AM
unblock (23,775 posts)
8. rmoney, on the other hand, served out a full, unpopular term.
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i guess that makes all the difference.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:42 AM
patrice (47,406 posts)
9. Translation: McCain should have picked Romney i.e. the Wars 'r' US goodhousekeeping seal of approval
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Last edited Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:45 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) for Romney, Offered in response to Romney's remarks the other day in Israel about Islamic leaders throughout the Muslim world.
IOW it's is Cheney telling war supporters that PNAC et al will back Romney. I mean, why else would he bother saying something like this? |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:45 AM
Third Doctor (1,025 posts)
10. LMAO!
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So were you Cheney..
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:45 AM
DFW (13,354 posts)
11. Oh gimme a break
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Romney's a mistake who isn't ready to take over, either, and yet Cheney's pulling for him--
until the election is over, that is. THEN he will come clean about how Romney was a mistake, too. (like the rest of us don't already know that) |
Response to DFW (Reply #11)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:53 AM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
12. +1 & Dickshit was an oil man who wasn't ready to take over, either
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CEO of Hollowburden, big f-ing deal. So he knows how to get oil from the ground to international markets. That does not a good veep make.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:54 AM
Marrah_G (22,435 posts)
13. Cheney: Water is wet
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:57 AM
tanyev (22,102 posts)
14. Good thing you were in charge of GWBs VP selection team, amiright Dick?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:04 PM
Heather MC (4,809 posts)
15. Brillant insight 4 years after it Doesn't Plucking matter LOL
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Dear Dick
you can't win them all 2008 was the repugs year to lose no matter who McLame picked. and Prayfully 2012 is the Repugs year to lose, and if I an not being too greedy 2016 hopefully ain't looking to good for you either! |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:07 PM
tk2kewl (12,648 posts)
16. Ha!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:24 PM
patrice (47,406 posts)
17. It's a back-handed compliment to Romney for his remarks in Israel this week. Link:
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:39 PM
SoapBox (5,823 posts)
19. Uh....
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my response to Bunker DicKKK would have to be,
no shit Sherlock. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:42 PM
BumRushDaShow (11,956 posts)
20. Oh my.
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Teabaggers won't like this.
This is going to need the big popcorn machine.
And I'll throw in some cotton candy for 1/2 price!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:46 PM
lastlib (3,789 posts)
21. Damn, that makes three strikes in a row for the GOP....
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They're out!!
Pot, meet kettle! |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:50 PM
skip fox (11,954 posts)
22. One black hole looks into another!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:57 PM
rocktivity (36,627 posts)
23. Rocktivity: Cheney Pick Of Cheney
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An Even Bigger Mistake
rocktivity |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:31 PM
Generic Other (20,305 posts)
25. This coming from the man who was the running mate and VP
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of the worst most unqualified presidential candidate and president in history. WORST.
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Response to Generic Other (Reply #25)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:45 PM
nichomachus (10,085 posts)
28. ... who selected himself as VP
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:44 PM
spindetective (25 posts)
26. So now the "mistake" is calling the "mistake" a "mistake"?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:44 PM
nichomachus (10,085 posts)
27. The only thing I want to hear from Cheney
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is his plea before the International Criminal Court
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:49 PM
Blanks (1,351 posts)
29. He probably should have Dick choose his running mate for him...
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I'm trying to remember; how did it turn out last time he was picked to do that?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:09 PM
lastlib (3,789 posts)
30. This will not sit well with Queen Sarah of Babble-On.....
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Response to lastlib (Reply #30)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jim Lane (3,831 posts)
34. It's certainly not sitting well with the Freepers
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The most common view over there is that the mistake was in having McCain at the top of the ticket. Many of them assert that, without Palin as a running mate, McCain would have lost by an even bigger margin.
If you want to visit their alternate reality: Free Republic thread about Cheney and Palin. Some say they never liked Cheney anyway. Others say that they've now lost all respect for him. The strength of their loyalty to Palin is really striking. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:28 PM
alp227 (20,476 posts)
33. I guess the Palin pick was probably a Two Santa Claus strategy.
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Thom Hartmann frequently discusses the Two Santa Claus strategy devised in 1976 by Republican strategist Jude Wanniski. Read his National Observer op-ed from March 6, 1976 here. Basically, the theory goes: "The Democrats, the party of income redistribution, are best suited for the role of Spending Santa Claus. The Republicans, traditionally the party of income growth, should be the Santa Claus of Tax Reduction." Also, Republicans "embrace the role of Scrooge, playing into the hands of the Democrats, who know the first rule of successful politics is Never Shoot Santa Claus. The political tension in the market place of ideas must be between tax reduction and spending increases, and as long as Republicans have insisted on balanced budgets, their influence as a party has shriveled, and budgets have been imbalanced." And: "As (Republicans) succeed in expanding incentives to produce, they will move the economy back to full employment and thereby reduce social pressures for public spending."
During the election of 2008, the Democrats controlled both bodies of Congress, and the president was a Republican. Thus, the Republicans would have MORE power of screaming and hollering "DEBT! DEFICIT!" if a Democrat made it to the White House. Conservatives...like Cheney in this case...have acknowledged that Republicans might have intentionally wanted to lose the 2008 election in order to gain more power by screaming at Democrats. In 2010, Michael Savage wrote this revealing passage in the intro to his book Trickle Up Poverty: Stopping Obama's Attack on Our Borders, Economy, and Security: The Republican establishment knew they had to give the power to a Democrat in order to take the spotlight off their own failure and excess—no matter how dangerous Obama might be once in power. They knew they had wrecked things so badly by running up the largest deficits in history and expanding the size of government—all under George Bush. They reason, “Let’s give it to a Democrat so the country can blame him for the worst four years in American history, and then we’ll come back triumphant with another Republicrat who will continue to hoodwink the sheeple.”
With the Bush tax cuts still in effect and debt ceiling debacle last summer we're seeing this "make the Democrats shoot Santa Claus" strategy in action. Do you know why House Speaker John Boehner bragged after the debt negotiations, "I got 98% of what I wanted"? As CBS reported, "...no stimulus in the debt-ceiling/deficit plan. Nada. No extension of unemployment benefits through 2012. No payroll tax holiday extension through 2012. Nor a move to extend the program to include employers in the tax holiday." Republicans in Congress did the same thing back in the Clinton administration. In 1993, Newt Gingrich (then the House Minority Leader) went on the House floor and predicted that Clinton's economic plan (like raising the top tax rate slightly) would crash the economy (obviously not true). The following year, control of both bodies of Congress flipped from Democrats to Republicans, and one of the landmark achievements of the Clinton administration was "ending welfare as we know it". |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:46 PM
olddad56 (2,836 posts)
35. Dick Cheney was the worst VP in the history of the country. Plain was a great pick (for Dems).
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:49 PM
Tx4obama (28,948 posts)
36. Looking forward to hearing Palin's response :) n/t
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #36)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:46 PM
Marie Marie (2,043 posts)
38. One big 'ol bowl of Word Salad coming right up.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:56 PM
Quantess (23,974 posts)
39. He's just saying that to support Romney.
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Is my guess.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:02 PM
lib2DaBone (8,124 posts)
41. Hey Dick.... God's waiting room called...
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They know who you are and what you did.
God wants to have a talk with you...... |


