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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:39 AM

Star Member onehandle (35,506 posts)

Police Find Meth Lab in Center City Hotel (Philadelphia)

Source: NBC

A Center City hotel was evacuated and a man is in custody after police say they discovered a meth lab inside the building.

It happened around 5:30 a.m. at the Hampton Inn on 13th and Race. Investigators say an alarm system detected chemicals from a portable methamphetamine lab on the third floor of the building. Over 350 people inside the hotel were evacuated.

Investigators say a suspect is currently in custody for drug offenses, risking catastrophe and other possible charges. Police also say they let everyone back into the hotel except for the third floor occupants as the investigation continues. Police say they expect additional arrests.

Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Center-City-Hotel-Evacuated-Due-to-Chemical-Leak-Officials--164119956.html


I've stayed in that hotel. It's not a fleabag, but it's not a luxury hotel either. About three blocks or so from Independence Hall and right in the middle of Philly's convention area.

I suppose if drugs were legal, the cops wouldn't have bothered the poor guy.

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Reply Police Find Meth Lab in Center City Hotel (Philadelphia) (Original post)
 onehandle Jul 2012 OP
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #1
LineLineReply Hidden or snorted or smoked.
 marble falls Jul 2012 #3
LineLineReply Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Moms
 LARED Jul 2012 #6
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #7
LineLineLineReply Thanks for the link. Good explanation. nt
 valerief Jul 2012 #8
LineLineReply For the most part they actually aren't that lucrative
 Posteritatis Jul 2012 #17
LineLineNew Reply Unless Walter White is in charge.
 Kablooie Jul 2012 #27
LineReply What? There weren't any trailor houses available?
 marble falls Jul 2012 #2
LineReply Actually if drugs were legal
 LARED Jul 2012 #4
LineLineReply Possibly. nt
 onehandle Jul 2012 #5
LineLineReply who's advocating legalizing meth?
 wordpix Jul 2012 #10
LineLineLineReply as are most pharmaceuticals.
 uncle ray Jul 2012 #12
LineLineLineLineNew Reply I don't think FDA approved meds are made of kerosene and ammonium nitrate
 wordpix Jul 2012 #33
LineLineLineReply the ingredients and processing are available to view on YouTube
 may3rd Jul 2012 #15
LineLineLineReply Meth is already a legal drug. It can be prescribed.
 Comrade Grumpy Jul 2012 #16
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #18
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply I wonder what would have happened if he obtained it under medical supervision...
 Comrade Grumpy Jul 2012 #25
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #28
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Meth's illegality didn't keep him out of prison
 Nevernose Jul 2012 #26
LineReply I have stayed at that hotel.
 Riley18 Jul 2012 #9
LineReply Why your last line? I don't know any one who's advocating legalizing meth.
 MH1 Jul 2012 #11
LineReply If meth were legal why would there be a need for hazardous clandestine laboratories?
 Fumesucker Jul 2012 #13
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #19
LineLineLineReply The CDC is clandestine?
 Fumesucker Jul 2012 #20
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #21
LineLineLineLineLineReply Clandestine means hidden..
 Fumesucker Jul 2012 #22
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #23
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Actually it would change practices because corporations can be sued..
 Fumesucker Jul 2012 #24
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 mbperrin Jul 2012 #29
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Funny, I feel the same way about alcohol.
 Fumesucker Jul 2012 #30
LineReply Is that anyway to run a business?
 may3rd Jul 2012 #14
LineNew Reply if drugs were legal
 barbtries Jul 2012 #31
LineNew Reply Jeez! why couldn't he cook it in walmart like everyone else?
 Javaman Jul 2012 #32

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:49 AM

marble falls (1,915 posts)

3. Hidden or snorted or smoked.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:54 AM

LARED (11,735 posts)

6. Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Moms

 


http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/24/opinion/oe-dubner24

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:25 AM

Star Member valerief (35,681 posts)

8. Thanks for the link. Good explanation. nt

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:32 PM

Posteritatis (17,313 posts)

17. For the most part they actually aren't that lucrative

We get the idea that dealers are rolling in cash mainly because most of the ones people know about are the big kingpin type figures.

The average dealer on the street or person cooking meth in their home? A lot of the studies into what their lives are like peg them as equivalent to a minimum wage job, and one with rather fewer benefits and more risks than a lot of those.

Think of it in terms of working in a retail chain store versus owning the chain. It's lucrative as hell at one end of that world, but very much not at the other.

(That's before getting into additional problems, like if a dealer has other habits which they sink their proceeds back into. I've known some very well-paid people who were struggling to keep the lights on because they drank or snorted their paychecks..)

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Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:28 AM

Star Member Kablooie (8,863 posts)

27. Unless Walter White is in charge.

He's an unexploded bomb himself but his meth lab is under complete control.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:47 AM

marble falls (1,915 posts)

2. What? There weren't any trailor houses available?

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:52 AM

LARED (11,735 posts)

4. Actually if drugs were legal

 

the Meth Lab would be treated as a chemical manufacturing facility with layers of safety processes to keep OHSA pleased.

(Not advocating this)

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:53 AM

Star Member onehandle (35,506 posts)

5. Possibly. nt

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:12 AM

wordpix (12,479 posts)

10. who's advocating legalizing meth?

the stuff is made of toxic chemicals

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:19 AM

uncle ray (2,238 posts)

12. as are most pharmaceuticals.

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wordpix (12,479 posts)

33. I don't think FDA approved meds are made of kerosene and ammonium nitrate

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:51 AM

may3rd (593 posts)

15. the ingredients and processing are available to view on YouTube

 


Seriously,
these people need to be sterilized for destroying peoples lives

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:26 PM

Comrade Grumpy (3,420 posts)

16. Meth is already a legal drug. It can be prescribed.

The brand name is Desoxyn, manufactured by Abbot Labs. They don't manufacture it in hotel rooms or trailers, though, because they can do it legally.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:41 PM

Comrade Grumpy (3,420 posts)

25. I wonder what would have happened if he obtained it under medical supervision...

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:54 PM

Star Member Nevernose (8,856 posts)

26. Meth's illegality didn't keep him out of prison

It just made homes uninhabitable die to toxic fumes and enriched Mexican drug lords at some point. Like you, I think it's disgusting, soul destroying shit, and I've also had a loved one go to prison for life because of a murder committed while under the influence. I think, however, that keeping these substances illegal cause more problems than they solve.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:04 AM

Riley18 (1,114 posts)

9. I have stayed at that hotel.

When I was there the hotel catered to business people. It is a about two city blocks from City Hall. The "Roundhouse" police station is on Race Street too. So you could say the guy chose a good central location for his crime. Pretty considerate for someone who could have blown up the hotel.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:18 AM

MH1 (12,777 posts)

11. Why your last line? I don't know any one who's advocating legalizing meth.

Certainly, setting up a mobile chemical lab in a hotel room would not be legal, even if in some way meth were made "legal".

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:23 AM

Fumesucker (31,605 posts)

13. If meth were legal why would there be a need for hazardous clandestine laboratories?

"Bathtub gin" more or less went away with the end of Alcohol Prohibition.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:34 PM

Fumesucker (31,605 posts)

20. The CDC is clandestine?

It's amazing the things I learn on DU..

Meth is popular to an extent precisely because you can work your ass off on it, it's a very American drug, lets you drag your ass to your third minimum wage part time job instead of falling out from exhaustion.


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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:56 PM

Fumesucker (31,605 posts)

22. Clandestine means hidden..

Those making illegal drug are interested in two things, first is not getting caught and second is profit. First class safety precautions are both expensive and obvious, neither criteria endears those precautions to those wanting to remain undetected while making a large profit.

Not everyone works in the oilfield, it's a vastly different environment than most minimum wage jobs, I know this from personal experience as a former oil patch worker.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:19 PM

Fumesucker (31,605 posts)

24. Actually it would change practices because corporations can be sued..

Kind of hard to sue the illegal meth lab on the next block..

People are more productive on speed, or can be at least for a while. I never claimed there were no ill effects but most minimum wage jobs don't have the inherent danger of a lot of oil patch jobs like rigger, pipefitter, welder or roustabout.

What speed does do is let you drag your ass to the third of your part time minimum wage jobs when without it you would collapse in a heap on the couch.. You may not be terribly effective when you get there but at least you can make it..

Keep in mind that the US Air Force sometimes issues speed to pilots who have to go on extended missions and stay awake and alert for extended periods...



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Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:37 AM

Fumesucker (31,605 posts)

30. Funny, I feel the same way about alcohol.

I've had some horrific experiences in which alcohol addiction played a major part, I haven't gotten drunk in over thirty years because of what I've experienced from alcohol addicts.



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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:27 AM

may3rd (593 posts)

14. Is that anyway to run a business?

 

Now , in theory, the building must be raised.

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Star Member barbtries (15,013 posts)

31. if drugs were legal

the production would be controlled.

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