Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:35 AM

Cameron urged to follow Spain's new EU edict : 'You can't move here without enough money in the bank

Source: Daily Mail

Ministers were last night under pressure to tighten border controls for EU citizens after Spain demanded ‘proof of income’ from expats hoping to live in the country.

The move – taken in response to the country’s economic crisis – was said by one Tory MP to have ‘driven a coach and horses’ through the EU’s cherished principle of the free movement of peoples, and immediately triggered calls for David Cameron to adopt tougher measures.

Madrid hopes to save more than €1 billion euros (£780 million) a year by clamping down on ‘economic migrants’ from other EU countries, including the UK.

A new ministerial order, slipped out by the Spanish government on July 9, states that any EU citizen living in Spain for more than three months must prove they will not become a financial burden on the State by producing a job contract or documents confirming they have enough money to support themselves.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180369/Cameron-urged-follow-Spains-new-EU-edict-You-money-bank.html#ixzz220DwzrdC

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180369/Cameron-urged-follow-Spains-new-EU-edict-You-money-bank.html

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Cameron urged to follow Spain's new EU edict : 'You can't move here without enough money in the bank (Original post)	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	OP
I doubt that Spain will get away with this.	harmonicon	Jul 2012	#1
They're using this	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#2
Just another right and privilege reserved for the wealthy - movement out of impoverish areas.	fasttense	Jul 2012	#3
Isn't that how it's always been everywhere? (nt)	harmonicon	Jul 2012	#4
Standard Immigration policy in use by most countries today	FreakinDJ	Jul 2012	#7
I don't even mean just between countries.	harmonicon	Jul 2012	#11
That's the dream	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#5
I didn't find this unusual	Atman	Jul 2012	#6
Mitt can move there and retire once he loses the election.	alp227	Jul 2012	#8
If it is an exclusive	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#9
It's called the Daily Fail for its shoddy tabloid journalism targeted towards the non-thinking.	alp227	Jul 2012	#10

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:11 AM

harmonicon (11,939 posts)

1. I doubt that Spain will get away with this.

They chose to be part of the EU, and now they have to deal with everything that entails.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:19 AM

dipsydoodle (32,679 posts)

2. They're using this

further down in the article :

"The Spanish government has justified the measures by pointing to Article 7 of the 2004 EU directive on free movement, which gives EU member states the power to define it ‘without prejudice to national border controls’ – in other words, entry conditions can be imposed on other EU citizens by member governments."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180369/Cameron-urged-follow-Spains-new-EU-edict-You-money-bank.html#ixzz220OMjYd9

With unemployment in Spain now close to 25% that may be part of the background to this.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:28 AM

fasttense (14,445 posts)

3. Just another right and privilege reserved for the wealthy - movement out of impoverish areas.

So, now, in order to move out of an area that has become impoverished you have to prove you are not impoverished. The uber rich with the help of corrupted national governments create huge swaths of poor and abandon areas. But in order to move out of those ghettos, you have to prove you are NOT poor. So only the wealthy can move out. If you are poor you are stuck with whatever crap the corporate aristocracy wants to dump on you. So much for upward mobility.

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:40 AM

harmonicon (11,939 posts)

4. Isn't that how it's always been everywhere? (nt)

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:50 AM

FreakinDJ (13,058 posts)

7. Standard Immigration policy in use by most countries today

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Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:05 PM

harmonicon (11,939 posts)

11. I don't even mean just between countries.

Before the massive mortgage scam, that's how it was moving to expensive neighbourhoods. It's still that way for renters. First month's rent, last month's rent, a security deposit, a credit check (that the renter has to pay for), and maybe an application fee. That's going to keep a lot of people out of a place that they could otherwise afford.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 07:48 AM

Scootaloo (5,885 posts)

5. That's the dream

Free movement of capital but not of labor.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:40 AM

Atman (26,082 posts)

6. I didn't find this unusual

Although, the context of being part of the EU puts a certain angle on it.

Before I visited my sister in Thailand, I checked into their policies, just in case I loved it so much I wanted to stay; it's very similar to this. If you want to stay, you have to have a pretty fair amount of cash and a job -- although ex-pats can only hold certain jobs, so as not to take work from a Thai citizen. And you have to travel to Malaysia every six months to renew your visa.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:34 PM

alp227 (20,491 posts)