Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:20 PM
Grassy Knoll (4,271 posts)
Mitt Romney Closes Israeli Fundraiser To Reporters
Source: huffingtonpost.com
TEL AVIV, Israel — U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney plans to raise campaign money in private while in Israel, so what he tells wealthy American supporters abroad will be kept quiet from voters at home. Romney's campaign is barring reporters from a fundraiser at Jerusalem's King David Hotel and not saying why. At U.S. events, Romney's remarks to donors in communal spaces such as hotels are typically public. <snip> Some of Romney's wealthiest U.S. supporters plan to attend Monday's fundraiser. They include casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who's donated millions to a group backing Romney and is a leading backer of Republican Jewish groups in the U.S. Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/28/romney-israeli-fundraiser_n_1714370.html
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| Grassy Knoll | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| RKP5637 | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| nanabugg | Jul 2012 | #34 | |
| RKP5637 | Jul 2012 | #41 | |
| Ken Burch | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| BlueMTexpat | Jul 2012 | #47 | |
| AndyTiedye | Jul 2012 | #49 | |
| progressivebydesign | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| xxqqqzme | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| doohnibor | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| xxqqqzme | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| doohnibor | Jul 2012 | #19 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #22 | |
| AlinPA | Jul 2012 | #24 | |
| southern_belle | Jul 2012 | #45 | |
| sofa king | Jul 2012 | #31 | |
| lastlib | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| AlinPA | Jul 2012 | #25 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #27 | |
| AlinPA | Jul 2012 | #28 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #33 | |
| AlinPA | Jul 2012 | #46 | |
| progressivebydesign | Jul 2012 | #20 | |
| Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| Ken Burch | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| freshwest | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #35 | |
| bupkus | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| HankyDub | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #17 | |
| HankyDub | Jul 2012 | #30 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #32 | |
| HankyDub | Jul 2012 | #37 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #38 | |
| HankyDub | Jul 2012 | #39 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #40 | |
| HankyDub | Jul 2012 | #42 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #43 | |
| HankyDub | Jul 2012 | #44 | |
| JoePhilly | Jul 2012 | #23 | |
| lumberjack_jeff | Jul 2012 | #26 | |
| Jessy169 | Jul 2012 | #29 | |
| applegrove | Jul 2012 | #36 | |
| riverwalker | Jul 2012 | #48 | |
| marble falls | Jul 2012 | #50 |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:23 PM
RKP5637 (25,591 posts)
1. More secret donations. Some democracy the US is ... n/t
Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:11 PM
nanabugg (2,198 posts)
34. Wonder what would happen if Obama held a fundraiser in Saudi Arabia or Quttar? nt
Response to nanabugg (Reply #34)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:43 PM
RKP5637 (25,591 posts)
41. I can just imagine. That, would gridlock MSM and all of the spin machines right past
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November.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:28 PM
Ken Burch (31,228 posts)
2. Of course, by then he'd confused all the Israelis by calling them "Gentiles".
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(people who know the LDS tradition will know what I mean by that). |
Response to Ken Burch (Reply #2)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:04 PM
lastlib (3,755 posts)
7. He may be baptizing them, too, for all we know.....
Response to Ken Burch (Reply #2)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:34 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
14. This meeting isn't with Israelis
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It is with Americans in Israel.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #14)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:29 PM
BlueMTexpat (2,594 posts)
47. That is an excellent distinction. eom
Response to oberliner (Reply #14)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:01 PM
AndyTiedye (22,977 posts)
49. Or So We Are Being Told
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Perhaps some of them ARE Israelis (that are not also U.S. Citizens).
If RMoney was courting them for donations, he sure wouldn't want the media there. |
Response to Ken Burch (Reply #2)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:48 PM
progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)
21. Wonder if he'll tell them which planet the Jewish people get when the White Horse triumphs. n/t
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:31 PM
xxqqqzme (13,429 posts)
3. Have other
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presumptive presidential candidates held fundraisers outside the US? Or is he doing this because he is not yet the nominee?
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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #3)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:50 PM
doohnibor (97 posts)
4. Used to be illegal
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At one time, there used to be laws against foreigners buying American politicians. So nice of the Supreme Court to sort out the matter and clarify it.
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Response to doohnibor (Reply #4)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:56 PM
xxqqqzme (13,429 posts)
5. Thank you.
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Last edited Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:03 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I thought this was a very recent addition to campaigns, courtesy of SCOTUS. I could remember no candidate hosting foreign fundraisers, but then, I've only been voting since 1964.
Welcome to DU. |
Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #5)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:33 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
12. President Obama’s campaign has put on fundraising events in London, Zurich, Geneva, and Paris
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And the Romney campaign has already held fundraisers overseas - at least one that I know if in Hong Kong.
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Response to doohnibor (Reply #4)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:33 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
13. There are no foreigners involved here
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The fundraiser is for Americans living in Israel (or visiting).
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Response to oberliner (Reply #13)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:46 PM
doohnibor (97 posts)
19. Pardon me if I don't take your word for it.
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If foreigners can own American corporations, and American corporations can donate in unlimited amounts to political campaigns, am I correct in my logic that foreigners can now donate in unlimited amounts to American political campaigns?
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Response to doohnibor (Reply #19)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:01 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
22. U.S. presidential campaigns cannot legally take money from foreign nationals
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But American citizens who live abroad can contribute and vote.
The only people who will be donating money at the fundraiser mentioned in the OP will be American citizens. Same as at the various overseas fundraisers held by Obama (and the previous ones held by Romney). |
Response to oberliner (Reply #22)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:10 PM
AlinPA (13,708 posts)
24. How will we know who gives the money to Romney? Who knows the identity of the attendees
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at his fundraiser? There's no media allowed, so no knowledge of what is going on there. Many of these people are with international companies so we will never know.
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Response to doohnibor (Reply #4)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:03 PM
sofa king (8,689 posts)
31. That's probably why Ashcroft denied all FOIA requests on Bush campaign records.
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Perhaps not coincidentally, at the same time that AG John Ashcroft was denying all inquiry into whom, exactly, had helped the Bush Campaign kick things off with a $100 million war chest, he was also preventing all law enforcement from examining the finances of al Qaeda--after the attacks, mind you.
Maybe it was the same donor list. |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:03 PM
lastlib (3,755 posts)
6. WTF?!?!?
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Selling our democracy to foreign interests??!? We had better pound this bastard if he EVER uses "Obama" and "foreign" in the same paragraph!!!
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Response to lastlib (Reply #6)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:34 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
15. There are no foreigners involved here
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The fundraiser is for Americans living in or visiting Israel.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #15)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:11 PM
AlinPA (13,708 posts)
25. How do you know that?
Response to AlinPA (Reply #25)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:26 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
27. There are two basic rules for raising money on foreign soil. One, you have to be an American to give
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There are two basic rules for raising money on foreign soil. One, you have to be an American to give. Two, if you’re a sitting ambassador, you can donate, but you can’t ask your friends to do the same.
No “bundling” allowed at the embassy’s visa desk. This cycle, Obama has raised $603,000 at overseas events, including a July 11 reception in Shanghai, according to the Sunlight Foundation. Earlier this year, Obama bundlers held a “cocktails and light supper” fundraiser in Geneva. The top ticket price was $35,800. http://go.bloomberg.com/political-capital/2012-07-26/fundraising-abroad-no-bundling-at-u-s-embassy-visa-desks-allowed/ The donors are expats - Americans living overseas. |
Response to oberliner (Reply #27)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:28 PM
AlinPA (13,708 posts)
28. How will we know who gives the money to Romney now?
Response to AlinPA (Reply #28)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:10 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
33. I am pretty sure he has to report all his donations
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This is not the first fundraiser in history that reporters haven't been invited to.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #33)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:25 PM
AlinPA (13,708 posts)
46. I wouldn't trust him to report all his donations. He's hiding his taxes from the public, so
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my trust in him is about zero now.
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Response to lastlib (Reply #6)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:47 PM
progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)
20. His BIG money people are flying in from the US to make him look POPULAR there.
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Just like his "secret AA supporters" he flew in for the NAACP convention.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:04 PM
Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (3,176 posts)
8. Is he running for President of the US or Preaident of the world?
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and when does a presidential candidate get to have "private" fundraiser on foreign land???
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Response to Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (Reply #8)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:25 PM
Ken Burch (31,228 posts)
11. of the world...
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if by "president", we mean "Economic Emperor".
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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #11)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:41 PM
freshwest (31,398 posts)
18. Nay, the solar system. You left out Kolob. He's a BIG thinker. BIG.
Response to Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (Reply #8)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:12 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
35. Obama does much better overseas than Romney
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He is more popular both with the expat US community and the locals just about everywhere - Israel being a notable exception.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
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Response to bupkus (Reply #9)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:35 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
16. Obama's campaign has held fundraisers overseas as well
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There are American citizens living all over the world.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:14 PM
HankyDub (246 posts)
10. Interesting choice of venue
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King David Hotel, eh. Site of a horrendous terrorist act committed by terrorist swine Menachim Begin, first leader of the Likud Party.
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Response to HankyDub (Reply #10)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:38 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
17. Most heads of state or international dignitaries stay there when visiting Israel
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Not that Romney is a dignitary, but it is pretty much the standard hotel for high profile international visitors to Jerusalem.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #17)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:03 PM
HankyDub (246 posts)
30. a fellow Obie?
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Rad! Well anyway, I still think it's nice to tweak the Likudniks by pointing out that their founder was a terrorist.
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Response to HankyDub (Reply #30)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:09 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
32. Yes indeed
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I like to joke, about Oberlin, that I was a member of the most right wing organization on campus - the College Democrats.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #32)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:28 PM
HankyDub (246 posts)
37. I wonder which organizations
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Michelle Malkin belonged to.
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Response to HankyDub (Reply #37)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:33 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
38. Wasn't she a Connie?
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I seem to remember reading that she studied piano.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #38)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:40 PM
HankyDub (246 posts)
39. Nope
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Last edited Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) English major. I guess that explains why she's a fascist.
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Response to HankyDub (Reply #39)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:40 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
40. Where you there at the same time as her?
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I wonder if she was RW then or had her "awakening" post-Oberlin.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #40)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:44 PM
HankyDub (246 posts)
42. Nah I'm '99
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She was '92. According to wiki she was already nutso while at Oberlin where she met her asshole husband. Apparently he assaulted a photographer at a reunion some years ago
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Response to HankyDub (Reply #42)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:47 PM
oberliner (22,122 posts)
43. Fun times
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So did you overlap Ed Helms?
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Response to oberliner (Reply #43)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:54 PM
HankyDub (246 posts)
44. holy crap
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I had no idea. Yes, he must have been an junior when I was a first year. Can't say I knew him.
I did know this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corey_Stoll but not real well. Just chatting at parties. |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:09 PM
JoePhilly (15,982 posts)
23. Mitt .. "Ok, ok ... you put your money in THIS swiss bank account, it gets transferred to Bermuda ..
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Last edited Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:09 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) then, to a shell company in the Caymans, they wash it, and then divide it up and distribute it to the following 10 SuperPacs. And then, when I become President, we strike Iran. Its a WIN WIN!!"
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:15 PM
lumberjack_jeff (24,524 posts)
26. Secret fundraising visits to foreign countries. Welcome to the world Reagan gave us. n/t
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jessy169 (412 posts)
29. What are the chances that the donors
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are using this occassion to reassess their investments in Mitt? Could it be that behind those closed doors, Mitt and his owners are in major WTF mode, with Mitt being given the "it looks like we may have chosen the wrong guy" treatment? Perhaps Mitt is using the secret meeting to reassure "the bedwetters" that he actually has everything under control.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:22 PM
applegrove (58,404 posts)
36. He's a real nowhere man
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:47 PM
riverwalker (6,451 posts)
48. here's the invite
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:46 AM
marble falls (1,908 posts)
50. Pretty hard to cement his image as a world class leader if there's no press to document it .....
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assuming he really was of world class stuff, which he isn't.
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