Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:14 AM
kpete (38,904 posts)
Wisconsin Republican Senator Believes Voter ID Will Help Romney ‘In A Close Race’
Source: Think Progress
In an interview with ThinkProgress on Sunday, the number-two Republican senator argued that voter ID could be a boon for Republicans’ electoral prospects if the controversial law, which was recently blocked in state court, is reinstated in time for the November election. “Insofar as there are inappropriate things, people who vote inappropriately are more likely to vote Democrat,” argued Grothman. KEYES: If it were upheld and in place in time for the November election, do you think — polls have shown a pretty razor-thin margin — do you think it might ultimately help Romney’s campaign here in the state? GROTHMAN: Yes. Right. I think we believe that insofar as there are inappropriate things, people who vote inappropriately are more likely to vote Democrat. KEYES: So if these protections are in place of voter ID, that might ultimately help him in a close race? GROTHMAN: Right. I think if people cheat, we believe the people who cheat are more likely to vote against us. Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/24/572971/glenn-grothman-voter-id/
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| kpete | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| Mz Pip | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| Atman | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| Fozzledick | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| murielm99 | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| 11 Bravo | Jul 2012 | #19 | |
| Fozzledick | Jul 2012 | #25 | |
| usaf-vet | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| cstanleytech | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| Atman | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| cstanleytech | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| maxrandb | Jul 2012 | #24 | |
| beac | Jul 2012 | #22 | |
| Stuart G | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| Shadowflash | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| Stuart G | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| karynnj | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| flpoljunkie | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| Patiod | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| Scuba | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| bayareaboy | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| AllyCat | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| sinkingfeeling | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| Atman | Jul 2012 | #17 | |
| Liberal_Stalwart71 | Jul 2012 | #20 | |
| lobodons | Jul 2012 | #23 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:17 AM
Mz Pip (23,809 posts)
1. voting inappropriately
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How does one vote "inappropriately?"
There is so little evidence of voter fraud but these GOP asshats keep pushing that meme that voter fraud is a huge problem. It isn't. |
Response to Mz Pip (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:22 AM
Atman (26,084 posts)
3. You know, the ones who show up claiming to be Mickey Mouse.
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Last edited Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:23 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Happens all the time. Poll workers never spot this ruse...they just allow Mr. Mouse go ahead and vote, even though his address doesn't show up on their voter logs.
These fucking people are fucking STUPID. "The people who vote inappropriately are Democrats." Fuck you you fucking stupid fuck! Oh...was that too harsh? Sorry. |
Response to Atman (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:46 AM
Fozzledick (2,098 posts)
12. I've seen a lot of emergency room admission records for "Donald Duck".
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Usually shooting or stabbing victims, they knew they couldn't be refused treatment for not having insurance or ID so they'd give obvious cartoon names to remain anonymous. "Mickey Mouse" wouldn't be accepted though because "Mickey" is just a nickname and most couldn't figure out that his proper name would be "Michael", so they switched to Donald.
The ones with real chutzpah identified themselves as "Bullwinkle J. Moose". |
Response to Fozzledick (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 12:50 PM
murielm99 (12,911 posts)
18. My brother had a friend growing up whose name was
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Roy Rogers. It was hell on wheels when he got stopped by the cops or any other authority figure who did not already know him.
I thought it was sort of funny. |
Response to Fozzledick (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 12:57 PM
11 Bravo (15,463 posts)
19. Ever see a Rocket J. Squirrel?
Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #19)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 04:31 PM
Fozzledick (2,098 posts)
25. Yes, actually several, but not as popular as Bullwinkle.
Response to Atman (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:49 AM
usaf-vet (55 posts)
13. Ditto man...DITTO !!!
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Voter suppression. Plain and simple.
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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:24 AM
cstanleytech (5,316 posts)
4. "How does one vote "inappropriately?"" By voting for a democrat?
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Or atleast thats how its reading what he is saying.
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:30 AM
Atman (26,084 posts)
7. Exactly.
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In their eyes, it is "inappropriate" to vote for a Democrat.
Of course, I think it is "heinous" to vote for a Republican, but it's just semantics at that point. |
Response to Atman (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 01:17 PM
cstanleytech (5,316 posts)
21. No its not just semantics.
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Alot of republicans in office would gleefully cut every social program while boosting spending on defense and laugh at the thought of the poor, elderly or disabled being homeless and winding up dead in the streets.
While most democrats would atleast fight somewhat to prevent such cuts which imo is a huge difference between the two. |
Response to Atman (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 03:48 PM
maxrandb (5,238 posts)
24. I think it's heinous to vote Repuke too
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but the Democratic Party has never had a concerted effort designed to deny Republicans the right to vote
at least not since the 1950's Dixiecrats who all ended up in the open arms of the Repukes. Sometimes I think it's going to take a revolution. For starters, I say that if Romney wins the Presidency, the response from America ought to be a "General Strike". |
Response to Mz Pip (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 02:03 PM
beac (9,340 posts)
22. Hilarious, in that it's 100% certain that Mitt Romney voted
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"inappropriately" in the 2010 MA election.
"Voter fraud" is not widespread. I'm beginning to think it's a privilege reserved for the 1% like Romney and Anne Coulter. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:21 AM
Stuart G (7,690 posts)
2. Good....now those for permanently stopping this law will see truth.
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Last edited Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:26 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) There is no cheating on voting. Republicans want those voters to pay to vote.
Many cannot afford to pay, or buy an ID, or even get to the place where IDs are presented or get the credentials for the fuck ass ID.. IDs are a form of poll tax. remember them? I do OH AND POLL TAXES ARE ILLEGAL....REMEMBER THAT TOO. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:26 AM
Shadowflash (800 posts)
5. Funny.
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Every time I read about election fraud or tampering it's almost always a republican or right leaning organization. They need to be called out on this bullshit thats obvious to anybody who is even half paying attention.
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Response to Shadowflash (Reply #5)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:29 AM
Stuart G (7,690 posts)
6. Here is proof that there is no cheating....Pennslyvania (Has more people than Wi. and says..]
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Last edited Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:32 AM USA/ET - Edit history (3) "PENNSLYVANIA ADMITS THAT THERE IS NO IN PERSON VOTER FRAUD..."
READ IT FOR YOURSELF.. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/pennsylvania_voter_id_no_in_person_voter_fraud.php?ref=fpa |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:33 AM
karynnj (46,681 posts)
8. What about Romney himself in 2010?
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He voted in the MA special election - presumably for Scott Brown - even though he had sold his Belmont MA house significantly before the election. Although he owned many elegant homes - in Utah, California, and New Hampshire, when pressed, he said he lived in his son's basement in Belmont, Massachusetts!
Now, I could understand a poor or middle income Senator or Congressmen claiming such a thing for their residence in the state - if that was where they really stayed. It is very hard to believe that Romney, who had no job tying him down really spent much time - if any - in his sin's basement. " “Insofar as there are inappropriate things, people who vote inappropriately are more likely to vote Democrat,” Their Presidential candidate most likely voted illegally. |
Response to karynnj (Reply #8)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:42 AM
flpoljunkie (25,566 posts)
9. The rules are different for Republicans--apparently, even in Massachusetts.
Response to karynnj (Reply #8)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:45 AM
Patiod (11,511 posts)
11. And perhaps Anne Coulter
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or maybe not.
here is a good review of the tons and tons and tons of voter fraud happening http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/voter-fraud-does-it-happen/ |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:44 AM
Scuba (26,789 posts)
10. Here's how to fight back against Grothman...
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:58 AM
bayareaboy (585 posts)
14. Did these folks have Parents ...
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Who told them that there are things that you don't blurt out at least until after election night? On the other hand, they are pretty easy to follow, just follow the Oreo crumbs. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 12:10 PM
AllyCat (7,525 posts)
15. Grothman is slime.
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He is easily the member of the WI Legislature I find the most repulsive (amongst so many qualified contestants).
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 12:16 PM
sinkingfeeling (27,880 posts)
16. Who cheats? A Republican is asking that ? He knows the answer is the GOP.
Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #16)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 12:31 PM
Atman (26,084 posts)
17. If you know you can't win...
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...change the rules.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 01:17 PM
Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,858 posts)
20. Again, why do the GOP have to go through this if they are convinced that their policies are right?
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I've stated this many times, but if the Republican Party is so confident that the American people agree with their views and support their policies, then there would be no need to engage in these egregious acts to suppress votes.
Why not allow the American people to speak through their votes? And without going through this rigor to suppress them? Answer: Perhaps the GOP aren't confident at all that the American people--if they truly knew the real reasons and motives behind Republican rhetoric--would not support the candidates or their policies. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 02:29 PM
lobodons (664 posts)
23. Kathy Nicklaus a D?
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So, Kathy Nicklaus is a Dem? Seems she is the only one connected with "innappropriateness" in Wisconsin elections.
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