Rep. Steve King warns that our civilization cant be restored with somebody elses babies

[Mrs. Overall]

Source: Washington Post

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) has gained notoriety for his often contentious — and, occasionally, almost overtly racist — comments about immigration and the demographics of the United States. On Sunday, in a tweet about the nationalist Dutch politician Geert Wilders, King again appears to have crossed the line.

“Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny,” King wrote. “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.”

The formulation of “our” civilization being at risk from “somebody else’s babies” is a deliberate suggestion that American civilization is threatened by unnamed “others” — almost certainly a reference to non-Westerners. The idea that national identity and racial identity overlap entirely is the crux of white nationalism; King’s formulation above toes close to that line, if it doesn’t cross. American culture, of course, was formed over the past two centuries by the assimilation of immigrants from a broad range of nations — first mostly European but later a broader diaspora. Iowa, the state King represents, remains one of the most homogeneously white in the United States.

Wilders is a deeply controversial politician in Europe, thanks to his views on race and culture. Last month, for example, he referred to some immigrants from Morocco as “scum,” while pledging to “make the Netherlands ours again.” His Freedom Party has made significant gains in polling in the Netherlands over the past few years. King’s tweet on Sunday was not the first time he has praised Wilders for the latter’s opposition to immigration. Shortly before the 2016 election, King tweeted, “Cultural suicide by demographic transformation must end,” including Wilders’s Twitter handle.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/03/12/rep-steve-king-warns-that-our-civilization-cant-be-restored-with-somebody-elses-babies/?utm_term=.aeef9e48b069

[Thinkingabout]

1. since there has been a bill which employers could demand DNA testing or

The employees could be fined, it would be interesting if folks like King would find he is not "pure" Aryan. It has happened many times before and could happen again. These are crazy people, deluded in their thinking, not realizing we have all been created equal.

[mountain grammy]

13. the infamous "one drop" rule.

That's the first thing I thought of when this DNA bullshit started.

[Crash2Parties]

2. And here I thought "America" was a melting pot, an aggregate identity.

[Plucketeer]

27. I nominate King

to be the first one in that "pot".

[Crash2Parties]

30. Ugh. I've noticed that conservatives make the stew really, really bitter.

[Igel]

39. For a fair number over the last few decades

the term's been "salad bowl." More important than a single combined culture is a multicultural society. It's sort of faded in some circles, going strong in others. But regardless of that detail, "assimilation" is a four-letter word for a lot of academics.

It's at the core of much Russian nationalism.

However, while the nation = ethnicity is apparently just white nationalism, it's also at the core of Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Turkish, and numerous other nationalisms. Often there's a cultural aspect, which is why assimilationist views can't be reflected in the quote in the OP--it's sort of assumed it can't happen, so ethnicity = culture. I guess Chinese and Koreans and Turks are now honorary white nationalists. Who knew.

This is a commonplace among many progressives. I learned Russian. "Why? Are you Russian?" The founding father of slavistics' attitude was that you shouldn't let your personal history dictate your research program. Many academics find this insane. So there aren't many African-American slavists or sinicists. There were more at UCLA studying Swahili or Zulu than Chinese, Japanese, and Slavic combined. And I don't know how many people I know say they were told they shouldn't be studying Spanish if they're Korean or Chinese--they should study "their" language and "their" culture, even if they and their parents are born in the US and have English as their first language. Somehow ethnicity = culture.

It's a foolish trope to trip over, but one that's widespread and common. Sadly.

[Crash2Parties]

53. I will try very hard to only use salad bowl from now on. thank you. :-)

[Turbineguy]

3. He needs

to have his brain removed for examination.

[alfredo]

5. The only time he has a cogent thought is while he has a prostate exam.

[keithbvadu2]

33. By Ben Carson?

[Turbineguy]

44. An excellent idea!

[alfredo]

4. We only accept Aryan blood.

[keithbvadu2]

34. Trump supporters who want to deport Jews.

http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/trump-supporters-call-liberal-genocide-and-deportation-jews-arizona-rally

Would Trump miss Ivanka and Jared?

[alfredo]

48. No he wouldn't. It didn't happen to him, so it doesn't matter

[bucolic_frolic]

6. These Sanctimonious Seed guys create a real stench

[Thomas Hurt]

7. Screw Godwin's Law

It is time to set aside this little bit of political correctness and start to consider just how close to a modern day American fascism we really are.

So screw Godwin's Law this is not about saying that Trump is Hitler, or Bannon is Hitler or that we are going to be Nazis or neo-nazis.

The Third Reich and Italian fascism only existed in their time and place. The US can not be a new third reich.

What we can have is fascism in the context of our modern society.

We ignore this possibility at our own risk. Time to start paying attention to the conservative/reactionary right.

Time to stop thinking of their white supremacy as some stereotype of just the KKK. The modern fascist is not going to be burning crosses on the lawns a la the civil rights era. The fascists have been sued and society has rejected their previous historical tactics.

Now they are going to wear suits and ties and they are going avoid violence as much as they can.

Instead they are going try to proselytize in newspeak and avoid the racist cliches as much as they can. They are going to deny they are racists just as they have done for many years. crypto-fascists and populist support. The conservative leadership will hedge and they will let the street racists try to put the "other" back in their place. They will put into place laws when they can. They attack the judiciary and the media to allow them more power.

Trump is a wannabe Putin. He will be autocrat if we let him.

Umberto Eco on Ur-Fascism:

1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
7. The obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”
8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
12. Machismo an d weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

[Nitram]

8. I never thought I'd see the day when racists could just come out and spew this filth in public.

Maybe we have to go through the as part of the long healing process we've put off for so long. The wound of slavery and racism has been festering and Obama ripped the scab right off.

[LakeArenal]

9. When did it change from "bring us your huddled masses yearning to be free"

To.. bring us your bloated aristocracy yearning to be richer...

[warmfeet]

10. What a POS. nt.

[milestogo]

11. Racist old white males should go to an unpleasant destination and start their own civilization.

[bdamomma]

25. I agree let them go

somewhere else to start new world order. This is such crap trying to instill their sick ideas on us. This is not normal.

[Paladin]

12. Sick old white nationalist fuck. (nt)

[not fooled]

14. Geez

I feel so naive--growing up in CA, I had no idea so many of these idiots were running around. Thought that as a nation we had evolved past eugenics and all the other racist crap.

The last few years (esp. since President Obama was elected) have really opened my eyes. Then, dump and his rhetoric--words fail me.

Wow, this country is in BIG trouble. These assholes have been quietly grabbing more and more power and figuring out how to rig the system to rule as a minority. Now they are coming out into the open with their sh*t.

Hope the pendulum swings back toward sanity. I will do my part to make that happen.

[Mendocino]

15. What is with these repukes named King?

I don't know who's worse; the King from NY or this Iowa rube.

[nikibatts]

16. Yes, well, black decedents from slaves embraced and became a part of the American culture.

They share more values, customs, religious beliefs and musical traditions than any other group on earth. But look how you treated them and continue to treat them. They are fully assimilated into the American (if there is such a thing) culture so much so that there is virtually no distinction between a meal and table setting at a white 40 generation dinner than that of a 40 generation black dinner. But b lacks suffer racism and discrimination from first and second generation EU and balkan immigrants just as they do from some of the worst racist klans in the south and the racist whites here embrace those immigrants, who have little in common with the American culture, more than they do the blacks they have grown up with and lived among all their lives.

So don't cry to me about "your culture" being in danger. Cultural suicide by demographic transformation thrives when you place the weapon of your cultural suicide in your own hands. meh!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. Seriously

Do you want kids with calves the size of cantaloupes?

[ladym55]

18. Racist much?

The "stunning Steve King" (as described by Stephanie Miller) is a racist jerk. Pure and simple. He needs to be called out loudly, but I'm not waiting for his Repuke colleagues to do it.

[Roy Rolling]

19. Thank God!

His idea of "civilization" has been the cause of wars since time immemorial.

His cult is gradually being run out of the gene pool. The last thing we need is to repopulate the world with Nazis and ethnic-superiority nut jobs.

[bucolic_frolic]

20. I don't want Restoration. I want Progress!

Why do we have to go backwards?

[bdamomma]

26. because

Republicans like REVERSE

and Democrats DRIVE forward

[Plucketeer]

29. Special interests power the Republicans - just look at the new cabinet!

What powers the other side? It's not $27 dollar donations.

[bdamomma]

32. true

the "other side" as you posted are you referring to Democrats? if you are they are not squeaky clean either.

[riversedge]

21. KOS "Conservative Republicanism and white nationalism are now functionally the same movement".

Kos also has an article about bigot King!







Rep. Steve King openly peddles white nationalism: 'Demographics are our destiny.'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/12/1642672/-Rep-Steve-King-openly-peddles-white-nationalism-Demographics-are-our-destiny





By Hunter





Sunday Mar 12, 2017 · 1:35 PM CST




DES MOINES, IA - JANUARY 24: U.S. Representative Steve King (R-IA) speaks to guests at the Iowa Freedom Summit on January 24, 2015 in Des Moines, Iowa. The summit is hosting a group of potential 2016 Republican presidential candidates to discuss core conservative principles ahead of the January 2016 Iowa Caucuses. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa)


Conservative Republicanism and white nationalism are now functionally the same movement.
Tweet from Iowa Rep. Steve King: "Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can

That's Iowa Rep. Steve King, the prime architect of the party's newly aggressive anti-immigrant stance, a position he obtained by scuttling post-2012 party efforts at reworking and moderating the party's past immigration stances. He’s voicing these thoughts in support for Dutch white nationalist stain Geert Wilders.

And yes, this is the new Republican "normal."........................

[SHRED]

22. Only his ancestors babies count

What a shitstain.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. Oh sure. Because that shit kicking semi literate inbred dickhead is such

a representative of "superior culture".

[wysi]

24. Racist scumbag

You are a piece of shit, Steve King.

[Little Tich]

28. I find the whole idea that Western civilization is a "white" and under threat from non-whites deeply

offensive.

I'm not surprised he likes Wilders a lot - they seem to share a lot ideology.

[gwheezie]

31. As I pointed out to him on Twitter

Initially I thought he was saying he might not be the biological father of the children he raised.

[mainer]

35. So Iowa is the epitome of civilization

I had no idea that's what we should be striving for.

[Initech]

36. We need to start making this point clear: THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT CHILDREN!

They don't. They only care about the fetus. If the kid in question happens to be anything other than a straight, white male, they want nothing to do with them. It's pretty fucking disgusting.

[ck4829]

50. Fetuses are sacred, children are instrumental

We've got to cut out all these liberal protections and get poor kids back in the mines and factories.

[Solly Mack]

37. The people who vote for him as just as bad.

Pack of racists all.

[Lotusflower70]

38. Which is code for

It can't be restored without white babies. They want 1950's submissive women and white men in charge. Everyone else is supposed to submit. Fuck that! I am not going to sit down and shut up. We can't go backwards, onward and upward.

[nikibatts]

40. Funny how they made their civilization using someone else's babies.

Hmmm....forget history much? You betcha!

[Blue_Tires]

41. But remember -- We can't EVER call him "racist"...

Besides, this is all our fault anyway... King only feels this way because us leftists are stuck in our isolated cultural bubbles in the coastal cities

[HAB911]

42. Our civilization was built ON THE BACKS of somebody else's babies

[pressbox69]

43. If it's very quiet

and he listens very closely, he can hear the voices of his own family praying for him to drop dead.

[Gothmog]

45. King is a racist who only wants white babies in the US

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

46. Society is always made up of somebody else's babies...

I'm only having two myself. That's really not enough to replace the population for the future. Lots of other somebodies are having kids too and that's what it takes to make the future generation. People need to stop electing these dumb reps.

[Honeycombe8]

47. "Restored"? Restored from what? nt

[ck4829]

49. Gilded Age? Bronze Age?

[Panich52]

51. His comments not just bigoted, but justify anti-choice and

opposition to birth control.

[Dawson Leery]

52. So rural Iowa

with the most primitive/low "sport" of wrestling is the model he wants?