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highplainsdem

(48,911 posts)
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 12:06 AM Mar 2017

Trump's Obamacare fallback: Blame the Democrats

Source: Politico

In a private Oval Office meeting with conservative activists Wednesday, President Donald Trump sold Paul Ryan's health care bill as strong and necessary. But minutes later, his top aides offered some willingness to consider changing some of the core provisions, even as Trump himself suggested a fallback position — that they could try again in two years, and Obamacare will fail on its own, leaving Democrats to take the blame.

In other words, Trump was ready to deal.

The president and his top officials crisscrossed Washington to sell conservatives on a contentious health care plan Wednesday, one day after a rocky rollout and criticism from the right had many questioning the plan's fate. But the White House team offered seemingly different messages at times, according to sources familiar with the meetings — leaving lawmakers, activists and others convinced the administration wanted to pass the plan quickly for fear of losing momentum but uncertain how many changes, if any, they'd be willing to accept.

Trump huddled at the White House with top activists from The Heritage Foundation, Club for Growth, Tea Party Patriots and Americans for Prosperity, whose big checkbooks and vast network of activists give them outsize influence. The groups have trashed Ryan's bill — calling it "Obamacare-lite." They left heartened that the administration was open to major change, including moving up a rollback of the current Medicaid expansion to 2018, a year earlier than the Ryan bill would. The administration also said it was open to delaying changes in the insurance market happening in 2018 and 2020, people in the meeting said.

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-obamacare-repeal-blame-democrats-235855

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elmac

(4,642 posts)
2. Even before the orange hitler
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 12:15 AM
Mar 2017

the fascists have been peeling away layers of ACA, causing premiums to go up. As this continues it will be hard to keep it going. Lets hope progressives can raise enough stink, keep hitting hard with the facts that the fascists are to blame, not us. We also need states to start implementing single payer on their own.

Blue Idaho

(5,038 posts)
3. Nope... from this moment on
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 12:16 AM
Mar 2017

It's all TrumpCare. Everything that exists, everything they plan, and whatever monstrosity they pass - it's all part of TrumpCare.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
16. To hell with that, it's Republicare.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:12 PM
Mar 2017

The minute they pass whatever monstrosity they foist upon the Orange Moron, along with whatever else on their agenda they think they can get, they will throw his ass overboard. If we call it Trumpcare it's in the rear view mirror and absolves the rest of the GOP. No, this needs to be tied around the necks of all Republicans who vote for it.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
7. And they'll get away with it. They'll get away with implementing policy
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:34 AM
Mar 2017

that will actually kill people and make them sick.

Not just with the ACA, either. Water, the air we breathe, our food safety.

And people label such things policy differences like it's simply a matter of having different opinions.

Much in the same way they claim their opinion is as good as someone else's fact.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. If they pass ANYTHING
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 06:40 AM
Mar 2017

they can't blame the Democrats. I think donnie is talking about it nothing gets passed, then they can blame the Democrats but even that wont work as they control both houses of congress. He can try it but it's his own right wing that will be responsible. With all the healthcare organizations (and I honestly can't think of one who has come out in favor of this con plan), that's also ammunition that will be used by Democrats. They can't let the degenerate in the oval office intimidate them.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
8. If Dems hadn't created Obamacare we wouldn't have to shove this awful plan down your throat
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:06 AM
Mar 2017

See?
It's all the Democrats fault.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
12. the jerks in the heritage foundation
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 07:26 AM
Mar 2017

came up with the Obamacare plan. nice to see they think their own suggestions suck.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
13. Health is a very personal thing
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 07:31 AM
Mar 2017

It's not some abstraction that can be "messaged" away by RW yakkers and Fox News. When you have and can get healthcare and then you don't, you are going to blame the closest available politician, many of whom are GOP representatives, come election time.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
14. What is lost in all of this is that it isn't about health CARE. It's about payments
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 08:26 AM
Mar 2017

and who gets a piece of the action. If the government oversaw it all, we'd all save money. The GOP, however, is anti-government and pro-greed so everything is going back to the insurance companies. The notion this might lower the cost of medical care is nonsensical. Sadly, we might have to let it all go to hell in order to win back the Congress and get numbers that could override a veto (assuming Der Fuhrer isn't in prison yet).

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
15. Is it possible for Trump to simply not enforce the ACA?
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:39 AM
Mar 2017

Is that what he means by letting it fail? Or will he simply let all the insurance companies leave the exchanges, and reduce Medicare/Medicaid spending so that people lose their health care by default?

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