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Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:14 PM

Federal immigration raids net many without criminal records, sowing fear

Source: MSN/Washington Post

Oscar Ramirez and Thermon Brewster walked out of the Rising Hope United Methodist Mission Church just before 7 a.m. — when those who sleep at its homeless shelter must leave for the day.

Outside the church in the Alexandria section of Fairfax County, Va., U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents were waiting.

As the two men and others crossed the street toward a shopping center on Feb. 8, about a dozen ICE agents ordered them up against the wall of a grocery store, questioning them about their immigration status. According to Ramirez and Brewster, the ICE agents then indiscriminately arrested seven of the homeless men — all of them Hispanic — and packed them into a van full of other detainees.

ICE tells it differently: An ICE official said officers approached the group, questioned them about a “potential target” and arrested two men, including a legal permanent resident of the United States. Both had been identified in the shopping center parking lot as “criminal aliens amenable to removable”— meaning deportation.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-immigration-raids-net-many-without-criminal-records-sowing-fear/ar-AAn27UC

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Reply Federal immigration raids net many without criminal records, sowing fear (Original post)
TomCADem Feb 17 OP
atreides1 Feb 17 #1
Initech Feb 17 #2
iluvtennis Feb 17 #3
JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 17 #4
Guilded Lilly Feb 17 #5
bucolic_frolic Feb 17 #6
christx30 Feb 17 #7
Lanius Feb 17 #9
christx30 Feb 17 #12
OldRedneck Feb 17 #10
IronLionZion Feb 17 #13
MontanaMama Feb 17 #8
Bill D Feb 17 #11

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:18 PM

1. The new Gestapo

ICE...the newer improved version of an old organization! The difference is that this one may have its tentacles into things like human trafficking, gun running, and drug smuggling!!!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:21 PM

2. First they came for the illegal immigrants.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:21 PM

3. I believe the account from the two men..not the new Gestapo. This is shameful.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:25 PM

4. "Sowing fear"? Music to Bannon's ears. nt

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:34 PM

5. Witch hunt.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:54 PM

6. Has anyone in TrumpLand considered

how they labors of these people will be replaced?

Low-level, low wage positions, sometimes off the books below minimum wage
work that few American citizens will do. I'm thinking busboys, dishwashers,
lawn maintenance, construction ... certainly there are other occupations.

America will grind to a halt.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:36 PM

7. Then businesses will have to start paying people

better than below minimum wage pay. And they'll have to protect the health and safety of their employees, because American citizens that work from them can't be silenced with threats of deportation. Violations to workers rights will actually mean something.

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Response to christx30 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:58 PM

9. Which will result in price increases on food and other goods

I don't think the right-wingers are ready to pay extra on their grocery bills.

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Response to Lanius (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:07 PM

12. Then they'll have to think outside the box.

How do you get crops out of the ground without using pretty much slave labor? Bring back the good ol' days of 1840's? Just use prison inmates?
Undocumented immigrants are an easy to exploit workforce. They can't complain about unsafe or unscrupulous practices, because of deportation hanging over their heads. If my boss here started acting like a bastard, I could go down to the EEOC or labor board and raise hell.
I don't make much, but I'm willing to pay more for food if it'll give the people picking and processing it a life.

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Response to christx30 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:03 PM

10. Nonsense

You say "American citizens . . . can't be silenced . . . "

Have you ever worked construction? Ever notice how safety regulations are routinely ignored? The boss doesn't provide safety harnesses for roofers, roofers don't complain, they just climb up on the roof . . . to complain means you lose your job. Ditto for unsafe equipment and machinery. No one complains and those who do are without a job.


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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 06:15 PM

13. inner city residents

it's an idiotic jobs plan. They think if they deport the illegals, and cut off SNAP, WIC, and similar programs, it will get inner city minorities some jobs.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:14 PM

8. The Associated Press is saying that 45 plans to use the National Guard

to round up immigrants: http://missoulian.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/trump-administration-weighed-mobilizing-national-guard-for-immigration-roundups/article_f011fc66-da8a-53b5-a56d-4ee60a83de65.html

Sean Spicer states this is "100 untrue". I think the AP is more reliable than the White House on this. Is this another leak??? I can only envision massive protests that will result in a military crackdown. 45 is just that crazy and Bannon would get a big ol' woody over calling for martial law. This is terrifying.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:03 PM

11. The Gestapo Lives

The Gestapo terror organization under Adolf Hitler has now
resurrected as the Gestapo Terror Organization under Donald Trump

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